The following Pies may be suspect under finals-like pressure

Beej · Post: # 807561Post **Beej** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 12:44pm

IMO

Wood, Toovey, Johnson, Dick, Leigh Brown, Cloke, Wellingham, Fraser.

Either a questionable mentality, very small-bodied or both.

I can see most of these players go missing on Sunday.

saintbrat · Post: # 807568Post **saintbrat** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 12:48pm

someone just suggested to me they didn't think they would withstand pressure.

Beej · Post: # 807597Post **Beej** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 1:02pm

saintbrat wrote:someone just suggested to me they didn't think they would withstand pressure.

Time will tell but I'm not sure they fancy the hard stuff.

Whereas our style of footy combined with the players Ross has a preference for has September written all over it.

meher baba · Post: # 807598Post **meher baba** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 1:05pm

I just don't reckon they have enough talent across the board to win three finals games.

However, that doesn't mean they'll be easy to beat on Sunday. Malthouse will have them believing that our performances over the past few weeks are a sign that there is blood in the water and that, if they come out firing, we are likely to implode and they'll run away with the game.

SainterK · Post: # 807602Post **SainterK** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 1:06pm

What about Jack Anthony, earlier this year Mike Sheahan had him kicking for his life, and his form happened to drop for a few weeks. Perhaps pressure doesn't sit well with him?

meher baba · Post: # 807609Post **meher baba** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 1:11pm

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:What about Jack Anthony, earlier this year Mike Sheahan had him kicking for his life, and his form happened to drop for a few weeks. Perhaps pressure doesn't sit well with him?

He's the sort of medium-sized forward who is relatively easy to shut down if the opposing coach feels this is worth tying up a defender for. The better his form, the more likely it is that he someone will given a shutdown role on him.

It isn't really possible to build an attack long-term around a player like Anthony IMO. Ideally you need a couple of talls and at least one crumber, so your Anthonys become your 4th or 5th forward.

35...LEGEND · Mon 31 Aug 2009 1:16pm

I struggle to find many (if any ) tough in and under types in the Pies line up...............Lockyer maybe

...

Not sure they are too keen on tough footy.(yesterday v dog's was not an ideal prep for final's imo...soft,free flowing,tackleless game)

Hit hard and often early and half their side will put up the white flag imo.

aussiejones · Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:10pm

" Hit hard and often early and half their side will put up the white flag imo."

We show little signs of returning to this play . I know against the Denons was a dead rubber as was the previous two weeks .

asiu · Post: # 807692Post **asiu** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:30pm

may be suspect under finals-like pressure

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are , always have been and will always be suspect under finals pressure

i've put a lot of effort into this , because i cant stand the mongrel cabbages and their limp lettuce leaf losing lemming barrackers

those who are suspect

No Name Games Age Date of Birth Height Weight Origin Position
9 Anthony, John 33 21yr 7mth 19 Jan 1988 192cm 92kg Northern Knights Forward
43 Barham, Jaxson 6 21yr 3mth 20 May 1988 182cm 74kg Geelong Falcons Midfield
17 Beams, Dayne 16 19yr 6mth 12 Feb 1990 184cm 81kg Southporth Sharks Midfield
48 Bennell, Johnny (R) 0 19yr 6mth 1 Feb 1990 174cm 71kg Peel Thunder Forward
47 Blair, Jarryd (R) 0 19yr 4mth 14 Apr 1990 172cm 70kg Gippslanmd Power Midfield
27 Blight, Jarrad 0 18yr 7mth 24 Jan 1991 189cm 73kg Swan Districts Defender
15 Brown, Leigh 201 27yr 6mth 23 Feb 1982 194cm 101kg Gippsland Power Defender
16 Brown, Nathan 37 20yr 8mth 17 Dec 1988 195cm 97kg Nth Ballarat Defender
40 Bryan, Chris 46 27yr 5mth 6 Mar 1982 197cm 99kg Sandringham Ruck
18 Clarke, Martin 46 21yr 9mth 13 Nov 1987 181cm 84kg Ireland Defender
32 Cloke, Travis 97 22yr 5mth 5 Mar 1987 196cm 103kg Eastern Ranges Forward
29 Cook, Ryan 14 21yr 6mth 16 Feb 1988 186cm 82kg Dandenong Stingrays Defender
Midfield
14 Corrie, Anthony 56 25yr 2mth 22 Jun 1984 186cm 80kg Nightcliff Forward
12 Cox, Shannon 25 23yr 5mth 7 Mar 1986 188cm 94kg South Fremantle Defender
Forward
1 Davis, Leon 181 28yr 2mth 17 Jun 1981 177cm 80kg Perth Midfield
Forward
31 Dawes, Chris 10 21yr 3mth 16 May 1988 193cm 100kg Sandringham Forward
33 Dick, Brad 20 21yr 1mth 25 Jul 1988 181cm 76kg East Fremantle Forward
4 Didak, Alan 155 26yr 6mth 15 Feb 1983 184cm 85kg Port Adelaide Forward
41 Dyas, Kevin (R) 0 21yr 10mth 16 Oct 1987 181cm 82kg County Armagh Ireland Midfield
46 Francis, Tristan (R) 0 20yr 15 Aug 1989 181cm 77kg Gippsland Power Midfield
25 Fraser, Josh 190 27yr 7mth 5 Jan 1982 202cm 100kg Murray Bushrangers Ruck
6 Goldsack, Tyson 43 22yr 3mth 22 May 1987 193cm 88kg Gippsland Defender
26 Johnson, Ben 182 28yr 4mth 5 Apr 1981 182cm 84kg St Marys Midfield
44 Keeffe, Lachlan (R) 0 19yr 4mth 14 Apr 1990 204cm 87kg Ruck
24 Lockyer, Tarkyn 213 29yr 10mth 30 Oct 1979 178cm 81kg East Fremantle Defender
Midfield
30 Macaffer, Brent 3 21yr 6mth 29 Feb 1988 187cm 86kg Gippsland Power Forward
5 Maxwell, Nick 115 26yr 2mth 3 Jun 1983 193cm 92kg Geelong Falcons Defender
Midfield
3 McCarthy, John 7 19yr 9mth 19 Nov 1989 188cm 80kg Dandenong Stingrays Midfield
7 Medhurst, Paul 156 27yr 8mth 11 Dec 1981 179cm 84kg Claremont Forward
11 O'Bree, Shane 237 30yr 5mth 15 Mar 1979 182cm 81kg North Ballarat Rebels Midfield
8 O'Brien, Heritier 82 22yr 9mth 15 Nov 1986 188cm 91kg Claremont Defender
10 Pendlebury, Scott 75 21yr 7mth 7 Jan 1988 190cm 88kg Gippsland Power Midfield
35 Prestigiacomo, Simon 217 31yr 6mth 31 Jan 1978 193cm 96kg Research Defender
38 Reed, Scott (R) 0 18yr 10mth 3 Oct 1990 192cm 78kg New South Wales Defender
20 Reid, Ben 8 20yr 4mth 19 Apr 1989 195cm 94kg Murray Forward
23 Rocca, Anthony 241 32yr 15 Aug 1977 195cm 105kg Northern Knights Forward
37 Rounds, Luke 0 18yr 6mth 10 Feb 1991 181cm 75kg Geelong Falcons Midfield
2 Rusling, Sean 17 22yr 10mth 6 Oct 1986 190cm 93kg West Adelaide Forward
39 Shaw, Heath 89 23yr 9mth 27 Nov 1985 184cm 83kg Northern Knights Defender
22 Sidebottom, Steele 8 18yr 7mth 2 Jan 1991 182cm 79kg Murray Bushrangers Midfield
Forward
28 Stanley, Danny 5 21yr 6mth 18 Feb 1988 187cm 88kg Geelong Falcons Defender
36 Swan, Dane 122 25yr 6mth 25 Feb 1984 185cm 85kg Calder Cannons Midfield
13 Thomas, Dale 82 22yr 2mth 21 Jun 1987 185cm 84kg Gippsland Power Forward
45 Thoolen, Tobias (R) 0 19yr 6mth 23 Feb 1990 196cm 95kg Bendigo Pioneers Defender
34 Toovey, Alan 38 22yr 5mth 23 Mar 1987 189cm 88kg Claremont Defender
Midfield
21 Wellingham, Sharrod 26 21yr 1mth 7 Jul 1988 185cm 82kg Perth Midfield
19 Wood, Cameron 40 22yr 5mth 4 Mar 1987 204cm 105kg West Adelaide Ruck

hope my efforts are appreciated

matrix · Post: # 807694Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:32pm

big efforts dude

<tips hat

desertsaint · Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:36pm

good work gaz - but could you please also add three examples of each suspect player that illustrates your opinion, alongside relevant past coaches comments, and just out of interest, the name of their favourite pet in childhood

Beej · Post: # 807712Post **Beej** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:44pm

haha gazrat - Saintsational's Kevin Sheehan.

asiu · Post: # 807718Post **asiu** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:48pm

the moons fun this time of year, the tide for our side is high

kev lives on planet stupida
i'm on planet bent

Beej · Post: # 807720Post **Beej** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 2:51pm

gazrat wrote:

the moons fun this time of year, the tide for our side is high

kev lives on planet stupida
i'm on planet bent

My friend, you are quite a character.

asiu · Post: # 807733Post **asiu** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 3:05pm

thats what happens when your stuck living between worlds

bored off your bananna

have a go at this dude ....ripper (30 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP7NkWU2JVM

and if u like that ...hit highway patrol......saintsational

geo's personal favourite....

matrix · Post: # 807736Post **matrix** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 3:08pm

mate im starting to worry about you...

asiu · Post: # 807741Post **asiu** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 3:17pm

WHAT!!!!

theres no western

(and yea , sheehan not sheedy ...i got )

35...LEGEND · Mon 31 Aug 2009 3:50pm

aussiejones wrote:" Hit hard and often early and half their side will put up the white flag imo."

We show little signs of returning to this play . I know against the Denons was a dead rubber as was the previous two weeks .

last few weeks not the best i agree,but a few crunching tackles early and plenty of pressure on the ball carrier will lead to the perceived pressure and ultimately fumbles and turn overs(the hallmark of the first 19 rounds).........i hope anyway

plugger66 · Post: # 807771Post **plugger66** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 4:03pm

Dont go along at all that some Collingwood players may be suspect at finals time. Why them and not us? Why didnt the Hawks have many if any last year.

Beej · Post: # 807789Post **Beej** » Mon 31 Aug 2009 4:20pm

plugger66 wrote:Dont go along at all that some Collingwood players may be suspect at finals time. Why them and not us? Why didnt the Hawks have many if any last year.

Every side has players that may be suspect under finals-like pressure.

Nobody is doubting that we wouldn't have these players.

If the thread was titled, "AFL players who may be suspect under finals-like pressure", you may have a point but it clearly states "the following Pies..."

You can still perform whilst under immense pressure. Players gain confidence from seeing their teammates performing so if we're up and about, the confidence will flow through.

When a team is under the cosh, IMO it is those players with suspect mentalities who would be more likely to go into their shell and not do anything about it.