threat to our "comfort zone"?

Arthur Mullard · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:38pm

I've followed St Kilda for long enough to know that there are many Saints supporters who are feeling "threatened" by the current success of the team on field. I feel sympathy and understanding for these people, for it cannot be easy changing the attitudes that have been formed over generations. These supporters have been comfortable (in a perverse way) knowing that we are seen as "underachievers" "perrenial losers" so on and so forth. Its far easier to have low expectations and have everyone else in the AFL "adopt us as a second team" After all, its easier for THEM to have a whipping boy (takes pressure off them) Its far easier to finish mid-ladder, or lower eight...no pressure, no one hunting us, everyone in their patronising and condescending way feeling "sympathy" with us supporters.
Well I'm sick of being comfortably numb!!!!! I have no wish to be popular with ANYONE! We should be brave enough to grasp the challenge and face up to the reality of being in the "hot seat" of flag favouritism and plant our collective butts firmly in that hot seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for bravery and courage...get out of the "comfort zone" Sainters and give the AFL competition a shake up in september!!!!!!!!

Marcus1232 · Post: # 798815Post **Marcus1232** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:40pm

From what i gather the afl has already started putting red white and black ribbon on the premiership cup already

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:41pm

comfort zone is that what you call it now LOL that is funny ! sorry but it is everyone knows it is the hawks zone that you guys are playing to perfection with great luck of no injuries touch wood you get none cause i want you guys to beat the pants off all comers and get that GF

Arthur Mullard · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:43pm

there's people who want to pick and choose who we play in finals (like avoiding collingwood first up) to make it easier to win the flag...to them I say "get a bit brave and prepare to play ANYBODY ANYWHERE"!

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:46pm

Arthur Mullard wrote:there's people who want to pick and choose who we play in finals (like avoiding collingwood first up) to make it easier to win the flag...to them I say "get a bit brave and prepare to play ANYBODY ANYWHERE"!

agree ! you got to be brave enough to take risks to reap rewards ! hey that sounds a good banner idea cool !

Arthur Mullard · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:49pm

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:54pm

Arthur Mullard wrote:

i put it in your banner suggestions , we got 2 games left i don't care what is on ours they are probably done seeing it is hodges 150th not sure the next game but seeing you guys go forwards i don't mind giving an idea or 2

matrix · Post: # 798837Post **matrix** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:58pm

christ is he/she/that still here??

unbelievable

Spinner · Post: # 798838Post **Spinner** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 9:59pm

Arthur Mullard wrote:I've followed St Kilda for long enough to know that there are many Saints supporters who are feeling "threatened" by the current success of the team on field. I feel sympathy and understanding for these people, for it cannot be easy changing the attitudes that have been formed over generations. These supporters have been comfortable (in a perverse way) knowing that we are seen as "underachievers" "perrenial losers" so on and so forth. Its far easier to have low expectations and have everyone else in the AFL "adopt us as a second team" After all, its easier for THEM to have a whipping boy (takes pressure off them) Its far easier to finish mid-ladder, or lower eight...no pressure, no one hunting us, everyone in their patronising and condescending way feeling "sympathy" with us supporters.
Well I'm sick of being comfortably numb!!!!! I have no wish to be popular with ANYONE! We should be brave enough to grasp the challenge and face up to the reality of being in the "hot seat" of flag favouritism and plant our collective butts firmly in that hot seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for bravery and courage...get out of the "comfort zone" Sainters and give the AFL competition a shake up in september!!!!!!!!

I like this post - Big improvement from your first.

And I have been trying to shift this very mentality as we have progressed through the season myself. Its not on the surface, but I have found that it is very deep within me.

Great post!

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:04pm

matrixcutter wrote:christ is he/she/that still here??

unbelievable

Hello matrixcutter i am a she by the way !
why wouldn't i be here i have good friends here

mbogo · Post: # 798850Post **mbogo** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:09pm

Golden Hawk you are always welcome here - and thanks for the positive support.
One of the few opp supporters who always says it how it is - and never tries to bag anyone.

Stillwaiting · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:09pm

Arthur Mullard wrote:there's people who want to pick and choose who we play in finals (like avoiding collingwood first up) to make it easier to win the flag...to them I say "get a bit brave and prepare to play ANYBODY ANYWHERE"!

I really cant see why you wouldwantto avoid anyone in the 8, and we should not be afraid of eddiwood, as you say anybody anywhere

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:23pm

mbogo wrote:Golden Hawk you are always welcome here - and thanks for the positive support.
One of the few opp supporters who always says it how it is - and never tries to bag anyone.

thanks

matrix · Post: # 798861Post **matrix** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:27pm

golden hawk wrote:
matrixcutter wrote:christ is he/she/that still here??

unbelievable
Hello matrixcutter i am a she by the way !
why wouldn't i be here i have good friends here

i didnt mean u young golden hawk
i meant the giant avatar (loony park)

of course u are welcome here
and i knew you were a she

but the avie has changed now
and i can see how u thought i was talking to u
as if...u are always on bestest behaviour

Arthur Mullard · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:37pm

'Allo spinner me old chinaplate! cor lumme guvnor!!!!!!!

Thank ya for the positive words much very appreciado!!!
I've felt that nagging feeling too like,,,,when is it going to all go wrong? sort of thing! Too many of us get comfortable by expecting to fail and therefore not getting disappointed.
BE brave enough to expect rewards for a great team effort DONT go into our shell! We are the top of the shop!!!!!! ENJOY!!!!!!

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:41pm

matrixcutter wrote:
golden hawk wrote:
matrixcutter wrote:christ is he/she/that still here??

unbelievable
Hello matrixcutter i am a she by the way !
why wouldn't i be here i have good friends here
i didnt mean u young golden hawk
i meant the giant avatar (loony park)

of course u are welcome here
and i knew you were a she

but the avie has changed now
and i can see how u thought i was talking to u
as if...u are always on bestest behaviour

oh you mean my crawf avatar or am i getting mixed up

i tried others but some were too big even though small too many kb's i think it said or pixals ? this one worked the only one so till i take the time to find another that is it for a little while anyway

matrix · Post: # 798883Post **matrix** » Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:47pm

no ya getting mixed up mate
was talking about another poster
avie was half a page big....never mind
carry on

golden hawk · Tue 18 Aug 2009 10:52pm

matrixcutter wrote:no ya getting mixed up mate
was talking about another poster
avie was half a page big....never mind
carry on

cool
well hope all goes well this week for you guys
cheers

Bernard Shakey · Tue 18 Aug 2009 11:01pm

Obviously golden hawk's comfort zone is with the Saints.

Hawks must have been one hit wonders.

saint patrick · Tue 18 Aug 2009 11:15pm

Great post Arthur.I'm afraid I fit the demographic and characteristics of the saint supporter you are talking about and after decades of disappointment it is hard to shake the old mentality

But you are spot on...we need to embrace being the hunted because it means a significant shift in the way we are progressing and being perceived by our competitors...most of all we need to believe in what Ross and Boys are building here...

This year is vastly different to the hopeful ventures of 97, 04-06.There is a strength,discipline and inner belief about this mob that is palpable at games and as much as the Collingwoods of this world like to pretend otherwise they are starting to fear and hate us...

Lets hope this hatred intensifys at the end of september and for a good many years to come ...

Destiny awaits...stare into its eyes

KEEP THE FAITH

saint patrick · Tue 18 Aug 2009 11:19pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:Obviously golden hawk's comfort zone is with the Saints.

Hawks must have been one hit wonders.

Hardly one hit wonders Bernard..5 flags in the last 25 years or is that 6?

They had their chance last year 5 years ahead of schedule and they took it...all power to them.

Lets take our chance

As Golden Hawk said she has friends here and is always welcome.

geometryofdivinity · Tue 18 Aug 2009 11:30pm

Dear Football Gods...ok, its time to stop mucking around and shine some light this way huh?..Please?....Im not joking ya bastards. Thank You

before you even asked actually

thankyou

ps : no s

thejiggingsaint · Wed 19 Aug 2009 1:52pm

Hey Arthur! (or is it "Arfur"

) that guy you've named yourself after cracked me up when he did that cover of "you're the one that I want" from grease with Hylda Baker doing the "Olivia Neutron Bomb part!!!!!" (check it out on youtube)
The OP is spot-perfect mate! I remember Rod Butterss saying at the 2003 B & F that he was sick and tired of us being "popular with other supporters" I was sitting there thinking..."Right-on!!"
We played Carlton in 2002 and kicked about seven goals in the first 1/4 then the Blues came back at us and at half-time we were only in front by seventeen points. A guy next to me said, (without a trace of irony) "Well I'd rather be in Carltons position than ours" (I kid you not!!!) I nearly choked on me cheese barm cake and chip butty!!!!!!

I replied "how is being three kicks down a better position to us mate?" then I realized...It was years of frustration and disappointment kicking in and this poor backstud was getting prepared for the let down...rather than get wired up for a second half of hard yakka getting behind the team!
We're all Sainters on here, but some of us can get just a WEE bit too conservative at times!

golden hawk · Wed 19 Aug 2009 9:23pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:Obviously golden hawk's comfort zone is with the Saints.

Hawks must have been one hit wonders.

nar too many injuries and players playing with injuries don't help either through in newbies and inconsistency rules ! sadly any way 2010 we will be back

golden hawk · Wed 19 Aug 2009 9:33pm

saint patrick wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Obviously golden hawk's comfort zone is with the Saints.

Hawks must have been one hit wonders.
Hardly one hit wonders Bernard..5 flags in the last 25 years or is that 6?

They had their chance last year 5 years ahead of schedule and they took it...all power to them.

Lets take our chance

As Golden Hawk said she has friends here and is always welcome.

record 10 premierships in 50 yrs just under i think it is first to get that many in that short a time if i remember right

yes i want you guys to win and you know what i would love to see a geelong v saints GF just to see you beat them well and truly and to see if GA will cry again LOL sorry may seem mean but he cried then and also cried when blues beat them i think or was it you guys so i have been told ! LOL