Leigh Montagna could take home Brownlow Medal, statistician
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
Leigh Montagna could take home Brownlow Medal, statistician
Leigh Montagna could take home Brownlow Medal, statistician says
Mark Stevens | August 05, 2009 12:00am
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
ST KILDA'S Leigh Montagna would take "Charlie" home if the Brownlow Medal count was held tonight, the AFL's official statistician says. Using the formula that identified Jimmy Bartel as tearaway winner in 2007 and Adam Cooney in last year's top three, Champion Data now has Montagna ahead of early fancy Gary Ablett.
Source: Herald-Sun.
Mark Stevens | August 05, 2009 12:00am
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
ST KILDA'S Leigh Montagna would take "Charlie" home if the Brownlow Medal count was held tonight, the AFL's official statistician says. Using the formula that identified Jimmy Bartel as tearaway winner in 2007 and Adam Cooney in last year's top three, Champion Data now has Montagna ahead of early fancy Gary Ablett.
Source: Herald-Sun.
- matrix
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 21475
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
thanks for that
im putting a tonne on him today
if he gets up, ill meet ya's at livewire/whitten
Dane Swan 2.60
Gary Ablett 4.50
Chris Judd 7.00
Joel Selwood 7.00
Leigh Montagna 9.00
Brendon Goddard 10.00
Nick Dal Santo 11.00
Paul Chapman 14.00
Jonathan Brow 17.00
Nick Riewoldt 17.00
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... tID/910128
EDIT:
im guessing it wont be at the dome we will be having a frothy seeing as we wont play there![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
im putting a tonne on him today
if he gets up, ill meet ya's at livewire/whitten
Dane Swan 2.60
Gary Ablett 4.50
Chris Judd 7.00
Joel Selwood 7.00
Leigh Montagna 9.00
Brendon Goddard 10.00
Nick Dal Santo 11.00
Paul Chapman 14.00
Jonathan Brow 17.00
Nick Riewoldt 17.00
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... tID/910128
EDIT:
im guessing it wont be at the dome we will be having a frothy seeing as we wont play there
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
- BackFromUSA
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4640
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:38am
- Has thanked: 51 times
- Been thanked: 507 times
i reckon Roo is good value at 17s ... blonde hair, inspirational, midfield numbers, leadership, marks, goals ... will get loads of 1s and 2s ... some 3s
AwayInUSA no longer ... have based myself back in Melbourne for a decade of Saintsational Success (with regular trips back to the USA)
"Saintsational Player Sponsor 2007 - 2018"
"Saintsational Player Sponsor 2007 - 2018"
- SaintWodonga
- Club Player
- Posts: 1868
- Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
- Location: Wodonga
- Contact:
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6043
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 5:31pm
- Location: Currumbin, Quoinslairnd
Oddly, or not, I can see Hayes polling better.
His year has been absolutely brilliant.
His year has been absolutely brilliant.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
- perfectionist
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 9024
- Joined: Mon 30 Jul 2007 3:06pm
- Has thanked: 60 times
- Been thanked: 347 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18580
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1906 times
- Been thanked: 843 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18580
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1906 times
- Been thanked: 843 times
if he polls like he deserves to your money will be safe.matrixcutter wrote:i have a bet with a mate (port twit) that Dal will poll higher than any Port player in the Brownlow. only $50
i reckon he flies under the radar a bit on here because we all know how good he is and we've come to expect brilliance from him.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
if you were an umpire who would you give it to:-
some bloke that looks like he just crawled out of prison and uses the ball cheaply, or,
an italian stallion that runs his heart out each and every game.
would be easily the best endurance runner in the competition.
gets plenty of pill and runs, the kind of player umps admire simply because they cant keep up with him.
lets do a list of games that he would have scored in and we can help each other fill in the blanks --:
some bloke that looks like he just crawled out of prison and uses the ball cheaply, or,
an italian stallion that runs his heart out each and every game.
would be easily the best endurance runner in the competition.
gets plenty of pill and runs, the kind of player umps admire simply because they cant keep up with him.
lets do a list of games that he would have scored in and we can help each other fill in the blanks --:
- matrix
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 21475
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
i have another Port mate who says Dal is our best player and wopuld snap the bloke up in a heartbeatbigcarl wrote:if he polls like he deserves to your money will be safe.matrixcutter wrote:i have a bet with a mate (port twit) that Dal will poll higher than any Port player in the Brownlow. only $50
i reckon he flies under the radar a bit on here because we all know how good he is and we've come to expect brilliance from him.
i said "better than Roo??"
he said "overated"
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
i'll start with the bookend games against sydney where i reckon he would have scored at least five points, perhaps even six.Premiers2009 wrote:which games would he have scored in?SYDNEY
ADELAIDE
WEST COAST
FREMANTLE
PORT ADELAIDE
WESTERN BULLDOGS
COLLINGWOOD
ESSENDON
BRISBANE
MELBOURNE
NORTH MELBOURNE
CARLTON
RICHMOND
GEELONG
WEST COAST
ADELAIDE
WESTERN BULLDOGS
SYDNEY
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
that's fair enough.
Champion Data have him on 25 ahead of GAJ on 24.
i just think that five of them were against Sydney.
There are sixteen other rounds where he has scored twenty (20) points.
three or four of them would have been against WBD i reckon.
three or four against WCE aswell.
three or four against Adelaide
zero against geelong and collingwood (unless someone knows something that i dont)
that's between 14 and 17 conservatively by my count. anyone have anything else they would like to add?
Champion Data have him on 25 ahead of GAJ on 24.
i just think that five of them were against Sydney.
There are sixteen other rounds where he has scored twenty (20) points.
three or four of them would have been against WBD i reckon.
three or four against WCE aswell.
three or four against Adelaide
zero against geelong and collingwood (unless someone knows something that i dont)
that's between 14 and 17 conservatively by my count. anyone have anything else they would like to add?
I doubt any saint would win it as they are going to be stealing each others
votes. Hope I'm wrong but as we have 5 players in the favourites it will
depend who gets the 1 vote and who gets the 3.
I remember Brad Hardie saying that in 2005 when he won the medal he
polled in 8 games and the next year he polled in more games but only ever
received 1 vote in any game. Which season was his best?
votes. Hope I'm wrong but as we have 5 players in the favourites it will
depend who gets the 1 vote and who gets the 3.
I remember Brad Hardie saying that in 2005 when he won the medal he
polled in 8 games and the next year he polled in more games but only ever
received 1 vote in any game. Which season was his best?
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
he kicked a goal against fremantle and had 30 when freo scored just 28 points. two votes.
no votes for the port game.
actually yeah he had 38 touches aginst collingwood. would have gone close with NDS in that game.
lenny hayes would have got 3 and kosi 2 v Essendon. joey 1 with 19 kicks and 28 posessions
against brisbane he would gone close 33, 21 kicks 2 goals.
riewoldt and fisher against melbourne
kosi against north with 6 goals, lenny with 32 touches
36 touches and 21 kicks against carlton. judd with only 20 riewoldt 5 goals (3pts)
richmond 0pts
geelong 0pts
had 43 against WCE in round 15\
adelaide round 16 0pts
WBD round 17 0pts
no votes for the port game.
actually yeah he had 38 touches aginst collingwood. would have gone close with NDS in that game.
lenny hayes would have got 3 and kosi 2 v Essendon. joey 1 with 19 kicks and 28 posessions
against brisbane he would gone close 33, 21 kicks 2 goals.
riewoldt and fisher against melbourne
kosi against north with 6 goals, lenny with 32 touches
36 touches and 21 kicks against carlton. judd with only 20 riewoldt 5 goals (3pts)
richmond 0pts
geelong 0pts
had 43 against WCE in round 15\
adelaide round 16 0pts
WBD round 17 0pts
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 139
- Joined: Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:34pm
by my calculations he is only losing points to:-Red wrote:I doubt any saint would win it as they are going to be stealing each others
votes. Hope I'm wrong but as we have 5 players in the favourites it will
depend who gets the 1 vote and who gets the 3.
I remember Brad Hardie saying that in 2005 when he won the medal he
polled in 8 games and the next year he polled in more games but only ever
received 1 vote in any game. Which season was his best?
1. hayes
2. riewoldt
3. dal santo
4. fisher
5. goddard
6. gardiner
7. koschitzke
and in about only a handful of games.
It's a fair point, But Lions won brownlows in 2 of their 3 flag years and Bartel smashed them in 07.Red wrote:I doubt any saint would win it as they are going to be stealing each others
votes. Hope I'm wrong but as we have 5 players in the favourites it will
depend who gets the 1 vote and who gets the 3.
I remember Brad Hardie saying that in 2005 when he won the medal he
polled in 8 games and the next year he polled in more games but only ever
received 1 vote in any game. Which season was his best?
- ausfatcat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6524
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
- Has thanked: 19 times
- Been thanked: 95 times
spert wrote:If Roo remains in good form I think he will be our main man for the Brownlow not Monty -if ever a player looked like he was playing fairly and leading by example it is Roo, and the umps can't help but notice that kind of thing.
Forwards every rarely get votes, Roo wont be top 5. And wont be the top saint.