Teams: round 18 (Gilbert Out!!)

[St Fidelius]

relax people we all know that's Lyons way of resting players .....

Who has been rested. Kosi was suspended and also hurt his hand and MG has been out 3 weeks so that is hardly rested. I cannot think of a player yet that has been rested.

I think what S.A Saint is saying is that in previous years players with little niggles would have played, but the Club can afford them to fully recover this year

[cwrcyn]

Seems to me that a lot of it boils down to whether the player has a big engine. Eddy and Dempster both do, and that's why they're in.

I don't see anything in Eddy's game to get excited about, but obviously Ross Lyon does and at 17 - 0, who can argue with him? Eddy is a midfielder who moves like a ruckman, but he has more endurance than any player on the list.

Maguire does not have a naturally big engine, and having spent most of the past three years on the sidelines, it takes quite a while to build up the aerobic fitness to the level required these days. I'll also trust Dave Misson on this one. As Ross said, we are preparing Maguire to succeed - not preparing him to fail. I just hope Maguire believes it, too.

[perfectionist]

From my multiple viewings of last week's game, I seem to recall that Sam Gilbert did get a knock to the back or was it the week before? That's the problem with so many wins - they just seem to merge into one mighty game. Does anyone else have the same recollection?

[Solar]

remember re:eddy he does some grat work when the ball is in the oppositions hands. This we as a club value like gold. If ball can show this type of work off the ball then it most likely will be change like for like.

Glad they don't risk anyone with niggles

[Mr X from the West]

Gilbert is a huge loss this week. He is by far and away our most important defender.

Hope he is back next week.

I've watched our game last week twice now and didn't see a huge contribution from Eddy - I prefer Geary. But just my opinion.

[ace]

ANOTHER GAME LOST AT THE SELECTION TABLE.

The Sydney selection table that is.
Don't have a good enough team to beat the Saints.

[S.A Saint]

relax people we all know that's Lyons way of resting players .....

Who has been rested. Kosi was suspended and also hurt his hand and MG has been out 3 weeks so that is hardly rested. I cannot think of a player yet that has been rested.

I think what S.A Saint is saying is that in previous years players with little niggles would have played, but the Club can afford them to fully recover this year

Yep spot on St Fid...i also believe that if this was a finals game that both gardi and gilbo would have played.....

[barks4eva]

i agree with st fid...eddy is a tough in and under player......he is one of the first to fly the flag for a team mate being monstered...an area we were lacking in in the past....he also knows where the goals are...ross said he was on track to play a significant role this year when that blind umpire ran into him at carrara pre-season......

You're kidding right, his kicking for goal is abysmal, his skills are awful and he is so not ready it's unbelievable that he's getting a game.

He doesn't even get close to kicking a goal unless he is about 15 metres out!

Armitage is a better player than Eddy in every way shape or form,

perhaps there are questions on his fitness, because I cannot fathom how Eddy keeps getting a game ahead of him.

Eddy is a serious weak link and the sooner we get Ball back, even if it's in the forward line in Eddy's place the better.

How you can say he knows where the goals are is quite unbelievable, not having a go at you personally, but FAIR DINKUM, I could not disagree with you more!

[St Fidelius]

i agree with st fid...eddy is a tough in and under player......he is one of the first to fly the flag for a team mate being monstered...an area we were lacking in in the past....he also knows where the goals are...ross said he was on track to play a significant role this year when that blind umpire ran into him at carrara pre-season......

You're kidding right, his kicking for goal is abysmal, his skills are awful and he is so not ready it's unbelievable that he's getting a game.

He doesn't even get close to kicking a goal unless he is about 15 metres out!

Armitage is a better player than Eddy in every way shape or form,

perhaps there are questions on his fitness, because I cannot fathom how Eddy keeps getting a game ahead of him.

Eddy is a serious weak link and the sooner we get Ball back, even if it's in the forward line in Eddy's place the better.

How you can say he knows where the goals are is quite unbelievable, not having a go at you personally, but FAIR DINKUM, I could not disagree with you more!

b4e have you seen Armitage play this year to make such a comment?

[iwantmeseats]

pfft. Eddy kicked 2 or 3 goals a few weeks ago. Whatever B4E

[saintbrat]

Emergencies
Geary, Armitage, Macguire

Source- Club e-mail

Given that Sandy don't play till Sunday It may be that these three will travel with the team.

[barks4eva]

pfft. Eddy kicked 2 or 3 goals a few weeks ago. Whatever B4E

Have you ever seen him kick a goal from outside 15 metres?

Against Adelaide ran into an open goal and from 40 metres without any opponent close by kicks it off the side of his boot and it doesn't make the distance!

Set shot against Bulldogs from 35 metres, miskicks and just makes the distance for a point!

Against WB runs into an open goal from 40 metres, no confidence to kick the goal so short passes but due to his poor foot skills gives the defender the opportunity to spoil and no score is registered after a promising move from one end of the ground to the other, and the ball is rebounded!

Please if anyone has seen him kick a goal from outside 20 metres post a link!

AND he's playing in our forwardline!

Maybe he might develop into a good player in a couple of years time but currently his foot skills are atrocious!

[BigMart]

Eddy, Gwilt doing very well to keep out

Geary, Ball, Armitage - I would think two of those should be in the seniors.....

Gardiner is a worry......lack of coninuity is a worry for Michael......he was reallty getting into the swing of things...and to miss three weeks with a leg injury will put his fitness and conditioning backwards

[barks4eva]

b4e have you seen Armitage play this year to make such a comment?

I have not seen Armitage this year!

Have noted that he has been in the best players on a number of occasions and when he did play last year, I liked what I saw!

As for in and under etc...etc... I reckon he's got that area covered big time.

I can only summise that he currently does not have the fitness required by the coaching staff to be given more serious consideration.

Having said that, IMHO he would have to have enough fitness levels to play the role that Eddy is currently, but then again that's only my opinion and I'm not privy to more info either way.

[bergholt]

i agree with st fid...eddy is a tough in and under player......he is one of the first to fly the flag for a team mate being monstered...an area we were lacking in in the past....he also knows where the goals are...ross said he was on track to play a significant role this year when that blind umpire ran into him at carrara pre-season......

You're kidding right, his kicking for goal is abysmal, his skills are awful and he is so not ready it's unbelievable that he's getting a game.

He doesn't even get close to kicking a goal unless he is about 15 metres out!

he's kicked 4.2 in 5 games, that's a pretty solid return, as well as 5 goal assists. sixth in the team for average goals contributed behind the five permanent forwards.

i haven't been as impressed with him this year as last, but he's playing a different role as a defensive forward. i'd like to see him get a few more tackles a game (averaging 3 at the moment). he's definitely in our bottom three at the moment, but still doing ok.

Armitage is a better player than Eddy in every way shape or form,

perhaps there are questions on his fitness, because I cannot fathom how Eddy keeps getting a game ahead of him.

Eddy is a serious weak link and the sooner we get Ball back, even if it's in the forward line in Eddy's place the better.

yep, we would definitely be a better team with ball in eddy's place. not sure about armo, having not seen him for 12 months, but i don't reckon he's the finished article yet either.

but it's nice to be winning while getting games into some kids. geary had a go earlier in the year. mcevoy, obviously. eddy now getting a run in the top of the ladder side. gwilt, raph, zac i'd almost include as well - even jones and mcqualter are still improving just by being in the side.

yeah, it'd be nice to see armo's name on the list as well, and maybe lynch or steven or even allen (fingers crossed for next year), but there's only so many spots for inexperienced players.

[Solar]

barks guess what

ross, the coaching team and selection comittee value what you do off the ball as well as with the ball. Currently eddy is dong his job in a team undefeated.

read the article about injuries and you will seewhy armo and ball are not in the side right now.....

[Zippy]

I want my bally back

[ace]

I want my bally back

Go fetch it.

[Moods]

barks guess what

ross, the coaching team and selection comittee value what you do off the ball as well as with the ball.

From reading this thread it appears that Barks' concerns with Eddy isn't what he is doing off the ball - it's what he's doing with the ball. Both equally important I reckon. Eddy has to get better with the latter.

At least the club has the luxury of playing Ball in the seconds so he can work on certain things, and Eddy gets a chance to show what he can do at this level. I agree with Barks though - Eddy would want to work on his composure a little, as his decision making and skills are still lacking for the required standard.

[Milton66]

barks guess what

ross, the coaching team and selection comittee value what you do off the ball as well as with the ball.

And we on SS value B4E's input of the Prozac as well as with the Prozac.

[saint75]

I want my bally back

When he starts playing the way he is expected to, you will see him back. Hope he is really pee'd off at the moment as that will mean we will see the Luke ball of old during the finals.

In regards to Eddy, back off! Done his job on and off the ball, hence his selection in the team. If you do what you are asked, you will CONSISTENTLY get a game in the Saints senior side.

Gardiner they will be taking a cautious approach to. He is much needed in the finals and they are erring on the side of caution IMHO. If it was a final on Saturday, he would be playing.

[SainterK]

I just caught the end of the footy show, I am sure I heard that Gilbert had been listed as an ankle injury?

[HarveysDeciple]

Interesting that Crouch is back...will get a job on a dal or a joey.

[St Fidelius]

I just caught the end of the footy show, I am sure I heard that Gilbert had been listed as an ankle injury?

Don't take anything those c0ckheads say as gospel...

Fat boy Billy Brownless said earlier about the Fridays nights match that the Kangaroos pioneered Friday night football 15 years ago...

Try about 24 years ago at least ...

[SainterK]

I just caught the end of the footy show, I am sure I heard that Gilbert had been listed as an ankle injury?

Don't take anything those c0ckheads say as gospel...

Fat boy Billy Brownless said earlier about the Fridays nights match that the Kangaroos pioneered Friday night football 15 years ago...

Try about 24 years ago at least ...

Good point, it just made we wonder if his previous injury may have been giving him some grief....