Geary??
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Geary??
whilst watching the game from home i didn't see geary at all involved....if i had not seen him in the team sheet i would have thought that he wasnt playing....
can anyone shed some light on this...did he get injured..or just couldnt get into the game....
and also should we look to try out a few players over the next few weeks like armo, steven....
can anyone shed some light on this...did he get injured..or just couldnt get into the game....
and also should we look to try out a few players over the next few weeks like armo, steven....
Re: Geary??
Armo is injured. I doubt there will be a change this week. As for Geary he just struggled to get into the game but he will be given another chance you would think.S.A Saint wrote:whilst watching the game from home i didn't see geary at all involved....if i had not seen him in the team sheet i would have thought that he wasnt playing....
can anyone shed some light on this...did he get injured..or just couldnt get into the game....
and also should we look to try out a few players over the next few weeks like armo, steven....
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I think he might have been partially successful in a negating role, but was effectively played out of the game.
Should others be considered for his role? Possibly Dempster or Eddy IMO. I think the season's too far gone to be thinking about Steven or Armo at this stage.
Should others be considered for his role? Possibly Dempster or Eddy IMO. I think the season's too far gone to be thinking about Steven or Armo at this stage.
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I love his application. The kid has a red hot go. He is young and has a future.
Having said that his last month hasn't been as good as earlier this year.
He'd need to lift. Whether he's injured or out of form it's hard to say.
I fear for his place as this year is a serious tilt at the flag for us. We need to
bolster our side to be the very strongest it can be come finals time.
I'm thinking the best at this stage may be King for McEvoy. Max for Raph
and Dempster for Geary (if Gears form continues)
Dempster gives us a third forward option that can kick a long bomb.
Having said that his last month hasn't been as good as earlier this year.
He'd need to lift. Whether he's injured or out of form it's hard to say.
I fear for his place as this year is a serious tilt at the flag for us. We need to
bolster our side to be the very strongest it can be come finals time.
I'm thinking the best at this stage may be King for McEvoy. Max for Raph
and Dempster for Geary (if Gears form continues)
Dempster gives us a third forward option that can kick a long bomb.
i think you're probably right here...howlinwolf wrote:I'm thinking the best at this stage may be King for McEvoy. Max for Raph and Dempster for Geary (if Gears form continues)
...but you're definitely wrong here. dempster playing forward? he's kicked 11 goals in his 73 game career! he doesn't become a forward just because you send him forward. how about he plays on a dangerous small forward or midfielder, in the important role he filled last year?howlinwolf wrote:Dempster gives us a third forward option that can kick a long bomb.
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...but you're definitely wrong here. dempster playing forward? he's kicked 11 goals in his 73 game career! he doesn't become a forward just because you send him forward. how about he plays on a dangerous small forward or midfielder, in the important role he filled last year?[/quote]
I agree with you this is where Sean plays but in a Granny where you need a quick fix he could do damage kicking a goal.
I agree with you this is where Sean plays but in a Granny where you need a quick fix he could do damage kicking a goal.
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I just love the way the prolonged absence of a particular player through injury leads many on this forum to start to think they have all sorts of abilities that they simply don't have.
We've had Dempster as a running wingman for a few weeks, and now we get Dempster as a third forward. FFS!
Next of all it will be "thank god X Clarke will be back next season because we will need a decent second ruckman when King retires"!!
Dempster is 99% a defensive, negating player who concentrates on blotting a dangerous opponent out of the game. Watch any tape of him playing either for the Swans or us.
Yes he can be an accurate kick for goal. This makes him all the more dangerous as a tagger, because it will make the opposing coach think twice about trying to drag him into our forward 50.
We've had Dempster as a running wingman for a few weeks, and now we get Dempster as a third forward. FFS!
Next of all it will be "thank god X Clarke will be back next season because we will need a decent second ruckman when King retires"!!
Dempster is 99% a defensive, negating player who concentrates on blotting a dangerous opponent out of the game. Watch any tape of him playing either for the Swans or us.
Yes he can be an accurate kick for goal. This makes him all the more dangerous as a tagger, because it will make the opposing coach think twice about trying to drag him into our forward 50.
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I'm listening to you mate BUT Geary's defensive pressure has been very
very low in recent weeks.
In fact check his stats this week. Some questioned whether he was
playing at all.
I'm trying to think how we can bolster what we have already.
Tell me on that basis and considering the GF is next week that Dempster's
defensive skills and occasional forward thrust would not be a better option ?
Relax.. and skip the FFS for FFS
very low in recent weeks.
In fact check his stats this week. Some questioned whether he was
playing at all.
I'm trying to think how we can bolster what we have already.
Tell me on that basis and considering the GF is next week that Dempster's
defensive skills and occasional forward thrust would not be a better option ?
Relax.. and skip the FFS for FFS
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Geary defensive pressure was poor against Geelong but the week before he laid 6 tackles, and the week before was another poor one, bot overall his defensive pressure has been good,.howlinwolf wrote:I'm listening to you mate BUT Geary's defensive pressure has been very
very low in recent weeks.
In fact check his stats this week. Some questioned whether he was
playing at all.
I'm trying to think how we can bolster what we have already.
Tell me on that basis and considering the GF is next week that Dempster's
defensive skills and occasional forward thrust would not be a better option ?
Relax.. and skip the FFS for FFS
Give the kid a break he can play and provide decent possessions and lay some great tackles
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
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Sorry mate, I'm not really arguing with you. If Dempster is ready - and he's clearly in good form - then bringing him in for Geary might be a good move ATM.howlinwolf wrote:I'm listening to you mate BUT Geary's defensive pressure has been very
very low in recent weeks.
In fact check his stats this week. Some questioned whether he was
playing at all.
I'm trying to think how we can bolster what we have already.
Tell me on that basis and considering the GF is next week that Dempster's
defensive skills and occasional forward thrust would not be a better option ?
Relax.. and skip the FFS for FFS
Geary has on occasions been a more creative player than Dempster generally is, but yesterday was the biggest stage you can play on short of a finals game, and Geary had his first go at such an occasion, and probably fell a bit short.
Dempster - a tough, seasoned veteran - for Geary therefore works for me. I'd be less enthusiastic about Dempster for Raph, with Geary keeping his place: too many taggers, not enough runners for mine.
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I just can't believe each and every week posters on here "target" a player or two and want changes each and every week...
It really amazes me...
So just who the week after....
McEvoy....
It's a wonder some have started that now...![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
It really amazes me...
So just who the week after....
McEvoy....
It's a wonder some have started that now...
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Geary had four touches by memory....Is it impossible for you to comprehend any St Kilda player having a poor game?St Fidelius wrote:I just can't believe each and every week posters on here "target" a player or two and want changes each and every week...
It really amazes me...
So just who the week after....
McEvoy....
It's a wonder some have started that now...
In fact the original post firstly asks weather there were injury concerns and such to explain.
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Yes, he did have a bad game and the week before he had 22 disposals and laid 6 tackles....Spinner wrote:Geary had four touches by memory....Is it impossible for you to comprehend any St Kilda player having a poor game?St Fidelius wrote:I just can't believe each and every week posters on here "target" a player or two and want changes each and every week...
It really amazes me...
So just who the week after....
McEvoy....
It's a wonder some have started that now...
Are you one one of these posters that if a player has a bad game they should be dropped immediately ????
Geary spent just 55% of game time...
and some posters want him dropped ....
It's the same every week, posters on here want changes every week
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
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he's had 3 bad games out of the past 4 mate. surely you can see he's wearing out? the bloke's only just turned 21, we can't expect him to keep his intensity up for a whole season and it's beginning to show pretty blatantly.St Fidelius wrote: Yes, he did have a bad game and the week before he had 22 disposals and laid 6 tackles....
Are you one one of these posters that if a player has a bad game they should be dropped immediately ????
Geary spent just 55% of game time...
and some posters want him dropped ....
It's the same every week, posters on here want changes every week
meher baba wrote:I just love the way the prolonged absence of a particular player through injury leads many on this forum to start to think they have all sorts of abilities that they simply don't have.
We've had Dempster as a running wingman for a few weeks, and now we get Dempster as a third forward. FFS!
Next of all it will be "thank god X Clarke will be back next season because we will need a decent second ruckman when King retires"!!
Dempster is 99% a defensive, negating player who concentrates on blotting a dangerous opponent out of the game. Watch any tape of him playing either for the Swans or us.
Yes he can be an accurate kick for goal. This makes him all the more dangerous as a tagger, because it will make the opposing coach think twice about trying to drag him into our forward 50.
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I didn't really rate Geary last year, but he's looking alright now. Average game yesterday, but when he has the ball he looks good. Is comfortable taking a bounce and seems a lovely kick. Dissimilar to Jones in those respects, but Jones himself has improved a lot this year and last.
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I'm certainly not looking for blood each week. I want THE very best team we can field come finals time.
Geary gives his best and his application to the task can't be questioned.
At the moment he is struggling a little. He has a future, so does McEvoy
but if it's a GF we want our very best artillery possible on the day.
What are other options ? If Dempster is to be play any part in the finals or
be a back up he will need senior game time soon to settle in.
Is now the time v WCE to try some other players so we know exactly what
we're looking at prior to the first final ?
Dempster for Geary this week surely wouldn't be too big a risk ?
Geary gives his best and his application to the task can't be questioned.
At the moment he is struggling a little. He has a future, so does McEvoy
but if it's a GF we want our very best artillery possible on the day.
What are other options ? If Dempster is to be play any part in the finals or
be a back up he will need senior game time soon to settle in.
Is now the time v WCE to try some other players so we know exactly what
we're looking at prior to the first final ?
Dempster for Geary this week surely wouldn't be too big a risk ?
howlinwolf wrote:I'm certainly not looking for blood each week. I want THE very best team we can field come finals time.
Geary gives his best and his application to the task can't be questioned.
At the moment he is struggling a little. He has a future, so does McEvoy
but if it's a GF we want our very best artillery possible on the day.
What are other options ? If Dempster is to be play any part in the finals or
be a back up he will need senior game time soon to settle in.
Is now the time v WCE to try some other players so we know exactly what
we're looking at prior to the first final ?
Dempster for Geary this week surely wouldn't be too big a risk ?
dempster named as bog for sandy at the weekend.......
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Great win but a few found out...
I thought Gear battled well but was playing out of his weight class and just got brushed aside.
GRAM's lack of commitment to the hard ball and defenisve pressure were also evident.
BALL battles hard but his lack of leg speed really left him and the SAINTS wanting...
The other point is that we really need another mid sized lead up marking option in our forward line...
Changes this week IN: Dempster, Lynch
Out: Geary, Ball...
GRAM's lack of commitment to the hard ball and defenisve pressure were also evident.
BALL battles hard but his lack of leg speed really left him and the SAINTS wanting...
The other point is that we really need another mid sized lead up marking option in our forward line...
Changes this week IN: Dempster, Lynch
Out: Geary, Ball...
SAINTS another day older another day closer to the Holy Grail!
Re: Great win but a few found out...
Yep they will drop Ball for sure. May even drop Milne as he didnt do much either. Also by dropping Ball we lose a midfeilder. That should help us in our structure.WinnersOnly wrote:I thought Gear battled well but was playing out of his weight class and just got brushed aside.
GRAM's lack of commitment to the hard ball and defenisve pressure were also evident.
BALL battles hard but his lack of leg speed really left him and the SAINTS wanting...
The other point is that we really need another mid sized lead up marking option in our forward line...
Changes this week IN: Dempster, Lynch
Out: Geary, Ball...
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Re: Great win but a few found out...
Ball out????WinnersOnly wrote:I thought Gear battled well but was playing out of his weight class and just got brushed aside.
GRAM's lack of commitment to the hard ball and defenisve pressure were also evident.
BALL battles hard but his lack of leg speed really left him and the SAINTS wanting...
The other point is that we really need another mid sized lead up marking option in our forward line...
Changes this week IN: Dempster, Lynch
Out: Geary, Ball...
Why don't we drop gilbert and hayes while you are at it?