Ins and Outs

S.A Saint · Post: # 767048Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:02pm

ROUND 14 - IN: Gwilt, Eddy, R. Clarke, Miles OUT: Hudghton (inj)

from the saints site on facebook....

Thinline · Post: # 767050Post **Thinline** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:04pm

Gwilt straight in then I guess.

S.A Saint · Post: # 767052Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:06pm

Thinline wrote:Gwilt straight in then I guess.

yep looks like it...pretty reasonable change...we need a lead up forward that will keep harley from playing loose across the half back line and going second and third man up....

Saint Bev · Post: # 767068Post **Saint Bev** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:28pm

Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.

SaintWodonga · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:29pm

Saint Bev wrote:Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.

100% agree

thirty-seven!? · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:33pm

SaintWodonga wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.
100% agree

He aint, but against Geelong, someone is needed to play on Harley. By then playing many of our forward entries through Gwilt, Harley will need to stay focussed on his man - not just running off.

This is what we did againt Essendon, causing Adam McPhee to show some respect, and it worked.

We have no other player in our team that can play this role well for 100% game time

saintsareprettygoodhey · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:36pm

Good good good!

I suspect a lot of people here will feel the same way about Max, that even though he's fantastic his inclusion in the side was unsettling the balance of a very good back six.

GO GWILT!

InkerSaint · Post: # 767079Post **InkerSaint** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:38pm

Expect Milne and Schneider's output to benefit from Gwilt's presence.

You can't tell me Maguire or Dempster would have this kind of influence on the forward line.

S.A Saint · Post: # 767080Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:38pm

Saint Bev wrote:Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.

i believe that he is better than maguire...the guy has not played for a couple of years now and when he did get back played pretty badly u have to admit....he did however show signs of becoming a very good cb before he broke his leg...with regards to dempster they play 2 different positions dempster is more of a tagging defender with little or no run...he is good at stopping his oppontent...i dont believe that he is 100% match fit after his knee reco and only a couple of games for vfl we shouldn't see him back in the side...if gwilt was unfairly dropped imho as he didnt play pretty reasonable on the forward line...and as i have mentioned in another thread a lead up forward would mean that harly will not be able to go third or second man up across the back line were he is so dangerous...it will make him more accountable as gwilt has a got a very god kick on him and if left alone can damage them....

F_Q_F · Post: # 767086Post **F_Q_F** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:43pm

Saint Bev wrote:Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.

He's a better third tall option than both Maguire and Dempster.

howlinwolf · Post: # 767092Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:46pm

Thinline wrote:Gwilt straight in then I guess.

I agree it will be Gwilt. Can't be Miles for his first game of the year against
Geelong surely ?

Dermie killed it in his first game but I'm guessing Miles ain't no Dermie.

Raph would be out of contention also imo. i fear for us if he is even though
he did well in the final last year.

Also Eddy... too big a game to bring into top AFL level from where he's
been for the last months. Maybe in another game like WCE ?

Saint Bev · Post: # 767093Post **Saint Bev** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:48pm

So how many weeks will Max be out, 2 no doubt

arthur08 · Post: # 767106Post **arthur08** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:16pm

I don't think it will be Gwilt I think Eddy to add another runner to the side. Geelong's main strength is their midfield and Eddy will add another rotation to create the pressure that we have been so successful in creating this year. If we can win the midfield we can win the game, if we are not competitive in the midfield we will get thumped unfortunately.

howlinwolf · Post: # 767108Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:21pm

If Roo and Kosi get touble teamed by Harley, Scarlett, Milburn and taylor we
will get smashed as well.

I've seen it happen.

We need more forward options to scatter their defence.

We have many more rotations through the midfield than we ever have had before.

saintsRrising · Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:24pm

Saint Bev wrote:Nothing against Gwilt, but you can't tell me he is better than Macguire or Dempster.

I think it depends where you want to player to play..

Down back...Gwilt is inferior.

Demspter also probably is not sufficiently match hardened yet...and you din't take underdown players into big games.

As a medium HFF he has the edge..

St Fidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:27pm

I would like to see Robert Eddy get a game this week.

He played well last year and was playing well this year before that flowering umpire ran into him in the NAB Cup this year.

If it was for that incident he may have played in round 1

Con Gorozidis · Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:41pm

the fact is we need a smaller mobile defender to deal with chapman, stokes, stevie j and varcoe .

the big message from this weeks selections is that matt maguires time at the saints is over (if hes not even in the emergencies when max is injured he not even be in the reckoning).

i love goose and its no fault of his own. but for his own sanity & opportunity he should probably look for a new club. saints could get a 2nd rounder for him.

im sure plenty of clubs would love to have him.

iwantmeseats · Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:46pm

We cant be debuing anyone this week. And goose counts as a debut! Eddy, no chance.

plugger66 · Post: # 767136Post **plugger66** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:49pm

iwantmeseats wrote:We cant be debuing anyone this week. And goose counts as a debut! Eddy, no chance.

Why is that?

St Fidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:55pm

plugger66 wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:We cant be debuing anyone this week. And goose counts as a debut! Eddy, no chance.
Why is that?

Exactly, why do you think that Eddy is "no chance" in playing?

FWIW I think he is a better player the R Clarke and Gwilt

undecided · Post: # 767144Post **undecided** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 8:02pm

My gut feeling says Miles will come in.

Shaggy · Post: # 767146Post **Shaggy** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 8:04pm

St Fidelius wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:We cant be debuing anyone this week. And goose counts as a debut! Eddy, no chance.
Why is that?
Exactly, why do you think that Eddy is "no chance" in playing?

FWIW I think he is a better player the R Clarke and Gwilt

Eddy is my pick to come in. He provides flexibility for BJ to go forward if Kosi and Roo are negated.

St Fidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 8:23pm

Robert Eddy has played two games this season...

Round 5 V Port Adelaide: 11 kicks 9 Handballs 4 tackles and 1 goal, 2 score assists

Round 6 V Bulldogs: 11 kicks 7 Handballs 1 tackle and 2 score assists.

In his two games he has averaged 19 disposals and 6 marks a match with a disposal efficiency of 76%

I just find it amazing that someone can state that he is "no chance" of getting a game this week

saintsRrising · Thu 02 Jul 2009 8:31pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:the fact is we need a smaller mobile defender to deal with chapman, stokes, stevie j and varcoe .

the big message from this weeks selections is that matt maguires time at the saints is over (if hes not even in the emergencies when max is injured he not even be in the reckoning).

i love goose and its no fault of his own. but for his own sanity & opportunity he should probably look for a new club. saints could get a 2nd rounder for him.

im sure plenty of clubs would love to have him.

well Steve J is not small at 189cm...but don't forget Byrnes....Geelong' third top goal scorer....and only 174cm tall.

I think Miles is half a chance....Geelong have been very reliant of late on their smalls getting the goals.

saintluke · Post: # 767165Post **saintluke** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 9:03pm

Ross loves referring to structures etc... thats why I wouldn't think Miles would come in against such a strong opposition. However having said that, it seems that Ross is focused on backing ourselves, why shelter debutants from the best if they have a chance of contributing in a positive manner in the long run.

The email that came around tonight has Miles listed in the first 4 interchange spots, not that it means anything at all