That Loss Really Hurt the Blues...

saint75 · Post: # 758806Post **saint75** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 3:28pm

A family member works with someone heavily involved with the Carlton FC. They were at a party after the match on Friday and Kruzer was in tears at the party because they had lost. (Little dumb founded that they actually believed they would win as the Saints had all the answers, even though they did put up a good fight).

This is not to take the mickey out of Kruzer, but is more to point out how important that win on Friday night was to us. Whether we win by 4 or 100, every win is important. Just ask the opposition......

Eastern · Post: # 758814Post **Eastern** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 3:34pm

I heard (On radio, I think) that Carlton had set themselves for this game for a number of weeks. It was probably their best game (collectively) for the year !!

walski · Post: # 758819Post **walski** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 3:39pm

Its says a lot of our boys too. A lot of saints sides of the past 10 year even 2008 side would have packed up shop big time and drop that game. But the fight is there which gives a lot of joy to this supporter.

St kilda is finally becoming the hunted not chasing. The hate from other supporters is starting to show which make me reassured that the club is on the right track.

saint75 · Post: # 758824Post **saint75** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 3:47pm

I think it speaks volumes on how far we have come and what it means if a team is able to beat us. We are NOT the easy beats of the competition anymore.

Can't wait for the second half of the season. Already to rock and roll already for that first game at the dome against Richmond.

fingers · Post: # 758832Post **fingers** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:02pm

Carlton were as good as they can get on Friday - we still have lots of upside. Great win by the boys.

walski · Post: # 758834Post **walski** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:04pm

fingers wrote:Carlton were as good as they can get on Friday - we still have lots of upside. Great win by the boys.

Agreed

The side has lot of good up and coming people no doubt and chucked everything bar the sink at us.

Go Sainters Go · Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:19pm

Controlled win by the Sainters, we were never headed and only played to 75% capacity - Kosi, Milne, Sam Fisher, Bally, Geary, McEvoy, Bakes and maybe one or two others were well down on their normal performance.
So Carlscum are not as good as they think they are

StSteven · Post: # 758847Post **StSteven** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:24pm

A long way haead of themselves if they were confident they could win. Typical of the arrogant pr**ks!

plugger66 · Post: # 758848Post **plugger66** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:25pm

StSteven wrote:A long way haead of themselves if they were confident they could win. Typical of the arrogant pr**ks!

You'd think they go into a game against the top side thinking they would lose wouldnt you.

bigcarl · Post: # 758850Post **bigcarl** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:29pm

The fact that they nearly killed their captain and champion in trying to win demonstrates how badly they wanted it. the loss will have deflated them.

with a bit of luck they will miss the finals

OneEyedSainter77 · Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:33pm

plugger66 wrote:
StSteven wrote:A long way haead of themselves if they were confident they could win. Typical of the arrogant pr**ks!
You'd think they go into a game against the top side thinking they would lose wouldnt you.

Don't be ridiculous mate, surely you of all people know that logic and common sense simply aren't welcomed on this forum.

SENsei · Post: # 758858Post **SENsei** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:36pm

plugger66 wrote:
StSteven wrote:A long way haead of themselves if they were confident they could win. Typical of the arrogant pr**ks!
You'd think they go into a game against the top side thinking they would lose wouldnt you.

Exactly Plugger.

Why would a team go into a game thinking they were going to lose?

I would be mortified to think our teams of 2002-03 were just going along without thinking they had a hope of winning.

Reality check needed here sometimes I think.

Eastern · Post: # 758859Post **Eastern** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 4:36pm

OneEyedSainter77 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
StSteven wrote:A long way haead of themselves if they were confident they could win. Typical of the arrogant pr**ks!
You'd think they go into a game against the top side thinking they would lose wouldnt you.
Don't be ridiculous mate, surely you of all people know that logic and common sense simply aren't welcomed on this forum.

Humour..........Not nastiness, but plugger forgets to put the

in occasionally !!

joffaboy · Post: # 758874Post **joffaboy** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:25pm

Eastern wrote:I heard (On radio, I think) that Carlton had set themselves for this game for a number of weeks. It was probably their best game (collectively) for the year !!

Absolute fact that Carlton set this game as one of the big games of the year at the beginning of the season.

ratten has rabbitted on about it for months. Wanting to test themselves against the best - wanting to break the losing streak - blah blah blah.

Set themselves like no other game this season - like a final - and come away very short.

Never got in front once the Saints goaled, always catch up.

Saints could have easily dropped the game. 11-0, almost certain to be top four if not 2, looking forward to the break etc, however they would not give up, they wanted the win and badly.

This Saints team would have turned it up in previous years and it would have been a great Carlton victory.

Carlton played it like a GF and lost. We wanted to get to halfway undefeated and won in the fashion of a complete team.

Zac kicking that clutch goal, with all the pressure on him, the scoreboard, the crowd, the time on the clock, the fact he is a backman, the fact he was pilloried as hopeless and would never make an AFL player. This is the essence of this team.

Fevola and Houlihan are the essence of a Carlton team - choking when the game was there to be won - punching well above its weight and getting found out.

SaintHomer · Post: # 758875Post **SaintHomer** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:33pm

contrary to some, i think carlton will get a lot more out of the match than the saints.

we have blown them away in the past, and i was thinking after 10 minutes we were going to do the same. they will now believe that they can match it with us which could be dangerous.

and from our side, our boys confidence would have been rocked a little and will now have in the back of their minds that the blue boys are a threat. that confidence is critical to us in the finals.

maybe i'm just being negative... and maybe that comes from too many years and too many disappointments. that is just my take.

friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.

degruch · Post: # 758879Post **degruch** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:35pm

SaintHomer wrote:contrary to some, i think carlton will get a lot more out of the match than the saints.

we have blown them away in the past, and i was thinking after 10 minutes we were going to do the same. they will now believe that they can match it with us which could be dangerous.

and from our side, our boys confidence would have been rocked a little and will now have in the back of their minds that the blue boys are a threat. that confidence is critical to us in the finals.

maybe i'm just being negative... and maybe that comes from too many years and too many disappointments. that is just my take.

friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.

A few years back we had a close one against them...last year they fought up til pretty close to the end, so they haven't been a push-over for years.

You're probably right, they would have taken a lot from the game, but then, we didn't really have much to prove by beating them...hope they enjoy their narrow loss and anything they can get out of it.

joffaboy · Post: # 758880Post **joffaboy** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:36pm

SaintHomer wrote: friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.

so what you are saying that with a fraction more luck it would have been a 3 goal + win.

SaintHomer · Post: # 758889Post **SaintHomer** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:46pm

joffaboy wrote:
SaintHomer wrote: friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.
so what you are saying that with a fraction more luck it would have been a 3 goal + win.

haha, yeah. i always cringe at those goals in the last few seconds when we've had a good quarter. there was two of them friday night. give em nothing i say.

a 19 point lead going into the last has a way better feel that a 13 point lead.

SaintHomer · Post: # 758890Post **SaintHomer** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:48pm

degruch wrote:
SaintHomer wrote:contrary to some, i think carlton will get a lot more out of the match than the saints.

we have blown them away in the past, and i was thinking after 10 minutes we were going to do the same. they will now believe that they can match it with us which could be dangerous.

and from our side, our boys confidence would have been rocked a little and will now have in the back of their minds that the blue boys are a threat. that confidence is critical to us in the finals.

maybe i'm just being negative... and maybe that comes from too many years and too many disappointments. that is just my take.

friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.
A few years back we had a close one against them...last year they fought up til pretty close to the end, so they haven't been a push-over for years.

You're probably right, they would have taken a lot from the game, but then, we didn't really have much to prove by beating them...hope they enjoy their narrow loss and anything they can get out of it.

understand what you are saying, but i just think of the great sides of the past 10 years, namely lions and the cats. they are/were supremely confident, so much so that they had lots of sides beaten before they were even on the park. you could tell their opposition were deflated as soon as they were a few goals down, and never confident even if a few goals up.

i want the saints to be like that come finals time.

or am i just being greedy?

The Fireman · Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:51pm

It's great they are hurting, they deserve it and have deserved the hurt over the last 6 years or so.
Why should it stop now?
It's a shame we didn't pump them but on the bright side , we gave them hope

degruch · Post: # 758896Post **degruch** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 5:54pm

SaintHomer wrote:
degruch wrote:
SaintHomer wrote:contrary to some, i think carlton will get a lot more out of the match than the saints.

we have blown them away in the past, and i was thinking after 10 minutes we were going to do the same. they will now believe that they can match it with us which could be dangerous.

and from our side, our boys confidence would have been rocked a little and will now have in the back of their minds that the blue boys are a threat. that confidence is critical to us in the finals.

maybe i'm just being negative... and maybe that comes from too many years and too many disappointments. that is just my take.

friday night they should never have been close. goals with 10seconds to go in the first & third quarters to them (the second from the turnover and 50) kept the b@stards in it.
A few years back we had a close one against them...last year they fought up til pretty close to the end, so they haven't been a push-over for years.

You're probably right, they would have taken a lot from the game, but then, we didn't really have much to prove by beating them...hope they enjoy their narrow loss and anything they can get out of it.
understand what you are saying, but i just think of the great sides of the past 10 years, namely lions and the cats. they are/were supremely confident, so much so that they had lots of sides beaten before they were even on the park. you could tell their opposition were deflated as soon as they were a few goals down, and never confident even if a few goals up.

i want the saints to be like that come finals time.

or am i just being greedy?

Well, you are Saint Homer...mmmmm...victory...grlgrlgrlgrlg.

Yes, but Carlton think they're great...they go into every game thinking they're fantastic, remembering the overloaded silver cabinet in the club foyer, then go away disappointed that they lost. In this case, to a team they haven't beaten for the best part of a decade!

Essendon surprised themselves, the Lions were suffering from the same dillusion Carlton were, due to their coaches internal mind games. The biggest victim of their own lack of confidence in recent times has been Fremantle, closely followed by us.

Milton66 · Post: # 758913Post **Milton66** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 6:30pm

saint75 wrote:A family member works with someone heavily involved with the Carlton FC. They were at a party after the match on Friday and Kruzer was in tears at the party because they had lost. (Little dumb founded that they actually believed they would win as the Saints had all the answers, even though they did put up a good fight).

This is not to take the mickey out of Kruzer, but is more to point out how important that win on Friday night was to us. Whether we win by 4 or 100, every win is important. Just ask the opposition......

Pity it wasn't captured on film and posted on YouTube. It would give their scumbag supporters something to contemplate given the shyte they give Roo for being "soft" and a sook.

St DAC · Post: # 758923Post **St DAC** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 6:43pm

Eastern wrote:Humour..........Not nastiness, but plugger forgets to put the in occasionally !!

Or any form of punctuation really

StSteven · Post: # 758933Post **StSteven** » Mon 15 Jun 2009 6:57pm

Maybe they treated this game like we will be against the Cats ! !! ! !

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