Another goldfish in the HoF

[Enrico_Misso]

Peter Carey

Yes he played a million games in the SANFL.
But no games in the big time.
Never proved himself against the best.

A big fish in a tadpole pond.


And I'm sure Fitzroy supporters will be thrilled for Ross Oakley.

[Milton66]

Peter Carey

Yes he played a million games in the SANFL.
But no games in the big time.
Never proved himself against the best.

A big fish in a tadpole pond.


And I'm sure Fitzroy supporters will be thrilled for Ross Oakley.

The thing is that if we acknowledge VFL which was a state league, the we should also acknowledge the WAFL and SANFL, which were also state leagues.

[saintsRrising]

Is that the cary that the Saints signed...but never arrived?

[Mr Magic]

Is that the cary that the Saints signed...but never arrived?

I think so.

As for thecomparison between VFL, WAFL annSANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL and NFL ended up in theVFL shows that the VFL was the ar superior competition.

[Enrico_Misso]

Is that the cary that the Saints signed...but never arrived?

I think so.

As for teh comparison between VFL, WAFL adn SANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL adn SANFL ended up in teh VFL shows that the VFL was teh far superior competition.

Hye MMr I am hvaing torble raeding yuor psots.

[Mr Magic]

Is that the cary that the Saints signed...but never arrived?

I think so.

As for the comparison between VFL, WAFL and SANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL and SANFL ended up in the VFL shows that the VFL was the far superior competition.

Hye MMr I am hvaing torble raeding yuor psots.

It's just my dyslexic typing!

It seems to have spread from the/teh to and/adn.

[Enrico_Misso]

On wrories mtae

[Nattens]

Ross Oakley!!!

What a bloody disgrace.

[kosifantutti23]

With a little luck, Ross Oakley could have been a premiership player for us.

[Enrico_Misso]

With a little luck, Ross Oakley could have been a premiership player for us.

Thank heavens he got injured and missed out.

[Devilhead]

For a split second there I thought you were referring to Peter Carey ...... the umpire!!!

[degruch]

With a little luck, Ross Oakley could have been a premiership player for us.

...and luckily his plans to wipe the St Kilda Football Club off the face of the earth failed.

[MC Gusto]

is barry robran in the HoF?? If he isn't he should be. One of the best. Some think he may have been the best

[desertsaint]

As for thecomparison between VFL, WAFL annSANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL and NFL ended up in theVFL shows that the VFL was the ar superior competition.

Many very, very good footballers didn't play in vfl - there wasn't that big a gulf between the leagues - and not enough extra money or profile to justify leaving home, family, friends, and your club.

[BringBackMadDog]

is barry robran in the HoF?? If he isn't he should be. One of the best. Some think he may have been the best

Inducted 1996 elevated to Legend status 2001

[mcadam05]

Still no Loewe , Winmar or even Ross Smith

[Mr Magic]

As for thecomparison between VFL, WAFL annSANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL and NFL ended up in theVFL shows that the VFL was the afr superior competition.

Many very, very good footballers didn't play in vfl - there wasn't that big a gulf between the leagues - and not enough extra money or profile to justify leaving home, family, friends, and your club.

How many Victorian players left the VFL in their prime to go play in the WAFL/SANFL?

The money was all relative.
$10,000 was a lot of money in the 60's when the average wage being earned by footballers in their work was $2-3000.

Today's footballers salary of $200,000 is only 2-3 times the average salary he could earn from not playing - similar in relative terms to the money back then.

IIRC the VFL was considered the pinnacle of Australian Rules Football competition and as such goof players from WA, SA, Tasmania did move to Victoria.

Yes there were some celebrated cases of great footballers who didn't - Robran probably being the most notable from SA and Stephen Michael the most notable from WA, but the majority of champions from WA and SA did seem to come to the 'big smoke' as far as footy was concerned when you're looking at the 60s-80s era.

I stand to be corrected but I would have thought that the VFL was considered by most to be the pre-eminent competition.

[Solar]

rumour has it ross's award was merged with another players award, don't worry rossy, you name will be on the award somewhere (maybe on the bottom).

[GrumpyOne]

On wrories mtae

Dyslexia Rules - KO!

Which nasty person gave the condition a name that the sufferers would have no hope of spelling?

[n1ck]

rumour has it ross's award was merged with another players award, don't worry rossy, you name will be on the award somewhere (maybe on the bottom).

I like!

[Stephen Theodore]

Grumpyone wrote: Dyslexia Rules - KO!

Which nasty person gave the condition a name that the sufferers would have no hope of spelling?

Very witty

[Superboot]

Grumpyone wrote: Dyslexia Rules - KO!

Which nasty person gave the condition a name that the sufferers would have no hope of spelling?

Very witty

And who was the sadist who invented the word "Lisp"?

[Bernard Shakey]

How many Victorian players left the VFL in their prime to go play in the WAFL/SANFL?

Haydn Bunton - Went to WA aged 25 after winning 3 Brownlows, won 3 Sandovers, returned to Fitzroy in 1942, then played, coached and umpired in the SANFL.

[Mr Magic]

How many Victorian players left the VFL in their prime to go play in the WAFL/SANFL?

Haydn Bunton - Went to WA aged 25 after winning 3 Brownlows, won 3 Sandovers, returned to Fitzroy in 1942, then played, coached and umpired in the SANFL.

Well that's 1 - a very, vewry good one I'll grant you, but I don't think that 1 exception is going to prove my assertion false?

What's you recollection of Football around Australia in those days?
Where did the various state competitions rank against the VFL?

[desertsaint]

As for thecomparison between VFL, WAFL annSANFL, surely nobody is suggesting that they were equivalent levels of football ability?

The mere fact that most good footballers in the WAFL and NFL ended up in theVFL shows that the VFL was the afr superior competition.

Many very, very good footballers didn't play in vfl - there wasn't that big a gulf between the leagues - and not enough extra money or profile to justify leaving home, family, friends, and your club.

I stand to be corrected but I would have thought that the VFL was considered by most to be the pre-eminent competition.

Yes it was but not by the level you believe, perhaps it was by the 80s when the money and nationwide audience drew more players. Also "most" good footballers didn't move - you know the ones that did and don't know the many top shelf players that didn't. Then make the assumption that if they were any good they would have moved to the VFL.

If you're interested have a look at the SANFL HoF and you'll see the vast majority of members never played in the VFL. I'd hazard a guess that it is the same with the WAFL!