Ball Disposal
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Ball Disposal
I think that the way we disposed of the ball in that game was shocking. I've had a name for that style for a while and call it the freo disposal (as I think its the difference to them winning or losing the close games)
Too many handballs and kicks made the player recieving stall on the run, or it was just at their feet making it difficult to keep the push forward flowing, I thought this was one of our best areas in prior weeks as its a killer on the rebound out of defence.
And i dont want to talk about the chip kicks not hitting their targets or to stationary targets just waiting to be spoiled, when we had good possession of the footy. Turnovers hurt us.
Too many handballs and kicks made the player recieving stall on the run, or it was just at their feet making it difficult to keep the push forward flowing, I thought this was one of our best areas in prior weeks as its a killer on the rebound out of defence.
And i dont want to talk about the chip kicks not hitting their targets or to stationary targets just waiting to be spoiled, when we had good possession of the footy. Turnovers hurt us.
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Re: Ball Disposal
Classic..I made the comment today that we were playing like Freo..crappy handpasses and stupid turnovers!Griggsy wrote:I think that the way we disposed of the ball in that game was shocking. I've had a name for that style for a while and call it the freo disposal (as I think its the difference to them winning or losing the close games)
Too many handballs and kicks made the player recieving stall on the run, or it was just at their feet making it difficult to keep the push forward flowing, I thought this was one of our best areas in prior weeks as its a killer on the rebound out of defence.
And i dont want to talk about the chip kicks not hitting their targets or to stationary targets just waiting to be spoiled, when we had good possession of the footy. Turnovers hurt us.
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I know people will hate me for bringing it up but Jones again showed why he's not quite there. When we're really being challenged he's on the end of a beautiful break away from a centre clearance, has plenty of time and space 35m out from goal on his preferred side and he puts it out on the full. A few minutes later we're clearing it from defence in a good clean movement and have Geary on in the middle. Jones kicks it straight over his head to Geary's opponent.
Though I think the real reason Essendon hung on for so long was because we just hadn't played a side that played on and ran the ball so well. We had no answer for the pace and skill of Lovett, Davey and Dempsey. Their running the lines meant that we could never properly hold Essendon up and clog up the midfield and get numbers around the ball.
Though I think the real reason Essendon hung on for so long was because we just hadn't played a side that played on and ran the ball so well. We had no answer for the pace and skill of Lovett, Davey and Dempsey. Their running the lines meant that we could never properly hold Essendon up and clog up the midfield and get numbers around the ball.
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Jones Milne were below par.
generally we looked tired and had a down day. On the upside we won by 3 goals.
I wouldve liked to have seen mcEvoy stay in. What did he do wrong last week??
DAWSON was GREAT!!! disposal was good fast - he just keeps getting better.
I would like to see maguire or max in with dawson. Who is the unlucky player????? ------?
generally we looked tired and had a down day. On the upside we won by 3 goals.
I wouldve liked to have seen mcEvoy stay in. What did he do wrong last week??
DAWSON was GREAT!!! disposal was good fast - he just keeps getting better.
I would like to see maguire or max in with dawson. Who is the unlucky player????? ------?
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on 774 radio 3 to kosi, 2 to neagle, and 1 to c. jones. They thought jones did well.mad saint guy wrote:I know people will hate me for bringing it up but Jones again showed why he's not quite there. When we're really being challenged he's on the end of a beautiful break away from a centre clearance, has plenty of time and space 35m out from goal on his preferred side and he puts it out on the full. A few minutes later we're clearing it from defence in a good clean movement and have Geary on in the middle. Jones kicks it straight over his head to Geary's opponent.
Though I think the real reason Essendon hung on for so long was because we just hadn't played a side that played on and ran the ball so well. We had no answer for the pace and skill of Lovett, Davey and Dempsey. Their running the lines meant that we could never properly hold Essendon up and clog up the midfield and get numbers around the ball.
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the ABC votes were actually:
3 - Kosi
2 - dempsey
1 - CJ
The reason given for CJ getting the vote was that he kept stanton quiet (last week stanton was arguably BOG in the dons win over hawks with 36 disposals)
3 - Kosi
2 - dempsey
1 - CJ
The reason given for CJ getting the vote was that he kept stanton quiet (last week stanton was arguably BOG in the dons win over hawks with 36 disposals)
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i felt today we just did enough, looked out of sorts ie down on our skill level of the past few weeks. But we were good enough to get over a side prepared to run & carry. I think the short break contributed to the lack of man on man pressure over 4 qtrs. happy to get the points with no injuries.....
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I think the telling issue was in the legs this week and I'm surprised there was not a mention on Fox 1st half (after which I I turned to ABC Radio cos I couldn't stand Hird & Co willing the Dons on) then on radio second half no mention. But 6 v 9 days prep has to be significant these days I recon ...and When we had fresh legs 1stQ we looked the much better side Credit to the boys for gutsing it out against probably the fastest legs in the comp when conceding a huge advantage
Anything else pales in significance and we can learn from it IMHO
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Anything else pales in significance and we can learn from it IMHO
Well done Sainters !
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I think the telling issue was in the legs this week and I'm surprised there was not a mention on Fox 1st half (after which I turned to ABC Radio cos I couldn't stand Hird & Co willing the Dons on) then on radio second half no mention. But 6 v 9 days prep has to be significant these days I recon ...and When we had fresh legs 1stQ we looked the much better side Credit to the boys for gutsing it out against probably the fastest legs in the comp when conceding a huge advantage
Anything else pales in significance and we can learn from it IMHO
Well done Sainters !
Anything else pales in significance and we can learn from it IMHO
Well done Sainters !
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OMFG if i had to hear hird say the "the saints are clearly the better side" i think i would have thrown upstarsign wrote:I think the telling issue was in the legs this week and I'm surprised there was not a mention on Fox 1st half (after which I turned to ABC Radio cos I couldn't stand Hird & Co willing the Dons on) then on radio second half no mention. But 6 v 9 days prep has to be significant these days I recon ...and When we had fresh legs 1stQ we looked the much better side Credit to the boys for gutsing it out against probably the fastest legs in the comp when conceding a huge advantage
Anything else pales in significance and we can learn from it IMHO
Well done Sainters !
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Jason Blake.....I can't say he's done anything wrong, but he hasn't done anything exciting either.....CaptainReiwoldt wrote:Jones Milne were below par.
generally we looked tired and had a down day. On the upside we won by 3 goals.
I wouldve liked to have seen mcEvoy stay in. What did he do wrong last week??
DAWSON was GREAT!!! disposal was good fast - he just keeps getting better.
I would like to see maguire or max in with dawson. Who is the unlucky player????? ------?
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I hate the way this sounds, but we probably needed a game like tonight's at this point. We needed a game to show how we can stand up under a bit of pressure, see what areas need strengthening and work on any weaknesses that were identified before we come up against Geelong, rather than coming up against them full of bravado and a sense of invincibility.
I say let us reserve judgement, and see how the bombers go against Geelong. We know Essendon are the in form team, we may look back in a next few weeks and highlight this as one of better wins...SaintDebi wrote:I hate the way this sounds, but we probably needed a game like tonight's at this point. We needed a game to show how we can stand up under a bit of pressure, see what areas need strengthening and work on any weaknesses that were identified before we come up against Geelong, rather than coming up against them full of bravado and a sense of invincibility.
I'm not taking anything away from tonight's win. I think Essendon are a better team than they get credit for, and they have a lot of talented kids and are as fast as (faster?) than any other team at the moment. I never expected tonight to be a walkover. Coming off a short break I think we can definitely still hold our heads up high.ohwhenthesaints! wrote:I say let us reserve judgement, and see how the bombers go against Geelong. We know Essendon are the in form team, we may look back in a next few weeks and highlight this as one of better wins...SaintDebi wrote:I hate the way this sounds, but we probably needed a game like tonight's at this point. We needed a game to show how we can stand up under a bit of pressure, see what areas need strengthening and work on any weaknesses that were identified before we come up against Geelong, rather than coming up against them full of bravado and a sense of invincibility.
I just meant that it is good to face a team that can put a bit of pressure on us and know what we need to do to overcome that.
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Or do you mean disposal of Ball as Luke got caught out for being slow more times than he should've tonight - getting caught flat footed holding the footy and also struggling getting it out of the centre. He wasn't alone though - Schneider, Ray, etc - and they should be thankful they got away with a win.plugger66 wrote:Ball disposal poor. You obviously mean Luke as he made many errors today.
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a very big reason why the disposal was so poor was because the team did not stick to their defined roles and lost a little struture. I hope we can put this down to tiredness and not a lack of discipline.
In inability to get numbers at the ball and work hard off it lead to alot of contested errors as the players either had little time with the ball or nothing to kick to.
I do worry about luke balls kicking and perhaps he will get the the point where it's better for him to handpass then kick
In inability to get numbers at the ball and work hard off it lead to alot of contested errors as the players either had little time with the ball or nothing to kick to.
I do worry about luke balls kicking and perhaps he will get the the point where it's better for him to handpass then kick
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I love Luke Ball's balls, he is as tough and hard as anyone else playing.
My criticism of his play is he always props after a mark or free kick. 9 times out of 10 this gives our opponents a chance to settle in defence and punch the ball clear of our key forwards.
I think he thinks he's still at Xavier, where he had the luxury of those seconds.
My criticism of his play is he always props after a mark or free kick. 9 times out of 10 this gives our opponents a chance to settle in defence and punch the ball clear of our key forwards.
I think he thinks he's still at Xavier, where he had the luxury of those seconds.
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