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I disagree. Joel Smith was a most worthy wearer as was Andrew Thompson. The club should tell us why it has not been allocated.TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
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As stinger said..No 4 has been worn by some true legends of our Club..and I for one am very glad that theyve held off handing it over until someone truly deserves it....and frankly after 2008 none of our young uns did
Our "most improved player" award last year was won by Raph..who'd been dropped at least once during the year and really only came good in Round 20-21. Was very slim pickings apart from that.
If our current form continues, either Geary or Gilbert would be worthy recipients...and who knows even Raph might like the symmetry of having the number next to his brothers if his good form continues when he gets back out on the park.
As for players not wanting to "upgrade"..Roo knocked back No 1 after the 2006 season when Frankie Peckett retired.
Our "most improved player" award last year was won by Raph..who'd been dropped at least once during the year and really only came good in Round 20-21. Was very slim pickings apart from that.
If our current form continues, either Geary or Gilbert would be worthy recipients...and who knows even Raph might like the symmetry of having the number next to his brothers if his good form continues when he gets back out on the park.
As for players not wanting to "upgrade"..Roo knocked back No 1 after the 2006 season when Frankie Peckett retired.
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It should have gone to Gilbert two years ago, or CJ at the end of last year - not sure why they're so squeamish about giving away single digit numbers.
Why is number 9 empty as well? I love the big ugly mug, but he's not the sort who has his jumper number retired. At the end of this year, push down Eddy, Geary, CJ, hopefully. All the rest are probably too ensconced in their place now to move, although if Ray keeps up his good form he could go back down to single figures.
Why is number 9 empty as well? I love the big ugly mug, but he's not the sort who has his jumper number retired. At the end of this year, push down Eddy, Geary, CJ, hopefully. All the rest are probably too ensconced in their place now to move, although if Ray keeps up his good form he could go back down to single figures.
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Yeah 4 and 9 have had enough of a break after this season, IMO Geary and CJ can take them... 35 however still needs a couple more years off, it's been through a lot in the last 20 years ![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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Joel Smith became a worthy wearer of the jumper, but when it was given to him he was just a kid who had not played AFL footy.perfectionist wrote:I disagree. Joel Smith was a most worthy wearer as was Andrew Thompson. The club should tell us why it has not been allocated.TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
At the end of the day, I think it should just be allocated like any other number.
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I've been hoping that Luke Ball would step into #4 -- from 14 just like Plugger did. As a genuine leader and legend.
I take the history of our numbers probably way too seriously, and emotionally. I hate seeing a non-deserver in one of our great numbers. I'm even upset at seeing small players in No 10, or 2 or 31, which traditionally have been our rucks (for some unknown, but uncanny reason.)
No 3 is Ross Smith, Bruce Duperousel, and then Burkey, so X is all right there (if he could only perform a bit better).
1, 5, 8 and 18 seem to have special significance. And now of course 35. 29 is a weird number, with almost everyone who's worn it over the last twenty years graduating to a single digit. Hopefully Lynchy can continue the 'tradition'. Graduate him straight to 9, when he's good enough.
I take the history of our numbers probably way too seriously, and emotionally. I hate seeing a non-deserver in one of our great numbers. I'm even upset at seeing small players in No 10, or 2 or 31, which traditionally have been our rucks (for some unknown, but uncanny reason.)
No 3 is Ross Smith, Bruce Duperousel, and then Burkey, so X is all right there (if he could only perform a bit better).
1, 5, 8 and 18 seem to have special significance. And now of course 35. 29 is a weird number, with almost everyone who's worn it over the last twenty years graduating to a single digit. Hopefully Lynchy can continue the 'tradition'. Graduate him straight to 9, when he's good enough.
Michael Roberts wore #10 with distinction..looks ok on lil blokes for mine
No 1? Stephen Newport didnt really di it any justice IMO and I'm very glad the Club is now neing more careful with who gets it
#35?? No way should it go to a first year draft pick. Can you imagine how much pressure the poor kid would cop from the media in his first game?
I reckon Zac would slide nicely into #8 if his form continues, he stays elevated and Max does retire at years end. Lovely bit of symmetry and I reckon he'd feel unbeatable in it![Smile :-)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
No 1? Stephen Newport didnt really di it any justice IMO and I'm very glad the Club is now neing more careful with who gets it
#35?? No way should it go to a first year draft pick. Can you imagine how much pressure the poor kid would cop from the media in his first game?
I reckon Zac would slide nicely into #8 if his form continues, he stays elevated and Max does retire at years end. Lovely bit of symmetry and I reckon he'd feel unbeatable in it
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Agree on Smith.TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
Thompson was a 200 game player who won a best and fairest and captained the side so was probably worthy.
Smith was a kid with potential....if we could do it then, surely now they could.
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Agree Spinner.Spinner wrote:Give 35 to the first player drafted next year....
Its not a number you want to force players to wear only because of its history....therefore, too much of a ask to hand it down as were the #23 and #3.....
4 - Geary
9 - Lynch
Done and dusted.
35 could also go to whichever recruit requests it, that would show a fair degree of confidence and self belief.
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