Try something with Dal.....

BigMart · Post: # 728671Post **BigMart** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 8:32pm

He is primed for Kane and visa-versa.........but I reckon we should start the game with a WCE like surprise......yes Dal should run through the middle......but to throw Cornes off, start like this....a surprise works best when the opposition do not see it coming (ie/Voss to play fwd on C.Cornes, and be the #1 target) we are in a position to take the initiative because we KNOW the match-up they want...

B: Gilbert - Dawson - Baker
HB: Fisher - Blake - Ray
C: Gram - Hayes - Montagna
HF: Geary - Gwilt - Schnieder
F: Dal Santo - Riewoldt - Milne
Foll: Gardiner - Goddard - Jones
Int: Eddy - King - McQualter - Ball

Rotate
Goddard and Dal
Ball and Hayes
Schnieder, Milne, Mini
Eddy and Geary and Ray

The following players through FF
Riewoldt, Goddard, Gardiner, Gilbert
during the course of the game........

clarky449 · Post: # 728674Post **clarky449** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 8:34pm

It could be worth a short

Legendary · Post: # 728687Post **Legendary** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 8:44pm

I like that idea a lot, as you say they WANT Kane on Dal ... if we mix it up a little, it could work well in our advantage, particularly early.

Pwoit · Post: # 728701Post **Pwoit** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:02pm

Dont let Dal_Santos_Gal read the heading of this thread

Goose is king · Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:06pm

I dont think we should change a thing.

Dal is in career best form.

Back him to do the job because he is the second or third best player in the comp ATM.

Unforgiven · Post: # 728710Post **Unforgiven** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:10pm

Goose is king wrote:I dont think we should change a thing.

Dal is in career best form.

Back him to do the job because he is the second or third best player in the comp ATM.

Whilst I would go with this as plan A. As much as we may dislike is, Dal Santo could have a dog of a day with Cornes on him. Ross hopefully has some back up plans, like throwing Dal forward, or playing him off half back, as some hypothetical idea's.

If Dal is getting done, we still need somewhat of an output from him, but atm I'm backing him to do well.

BigMart · Post: # 728719Post **BigMart** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:22pm

You need a change occasionally - to avoid predictability.....and throw the cat amongst the pigeons.....

Great cricket captains understand when to do something pro-active and out of the ordinary......I would try and unsettle Cornes...who is the second best tagger in the AFL IMO

Goddard was going well in the middle before WC....

Gilbert did OK in the pre season as a fwd....

Even if it only for 5 minutes.....it will unsettle their structure......

Sobraz · Post: # 728723Post **Sobraz** » Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:26pm

I like the idea...

In the event that Dal maybe snags 2 in the first quater, this would change the whole complexion of the contest due to confidence...

Kane would begin to second guess himself...

Then rotating through the middle, Kane will be playing catchup, and Dal will always be a threat in the forward half due to his terrific skills...

Hope Ross runs with it....

Dal_Santos_Gal · Thu 23 Apr 2009 9:31pm

Pwoit wrote:Dont let Dal_Santos_Gal read the heading of this thread

LOL I like it, I like it a lot......

saintsRrising · Fri 24 Apr 2009 12:35am

Games are mainly won in the midfield..

Dal is in white hot form...so IMO leave he where he can have maximum impact.

If Cornes gets on top then move him...but not early.

In adition our midfield is the deepest it has been fora while...if Cornes hold Dal then others like Hayes will shine.

karnak · Post: # 728828Post **karnak** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 12:51am

when did red hot become white hot?

I have seen it written in every football article this year. It seems new to me. red hot sounds better.

white hot? what are they.... a sun?

bigcarl · Post: # 728847Post **bigcarl** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 8:53am

saintsRrising wrote:Games are mainly won in the midfield.

true, but dominating the midfield means nothing if you can't actually put it on the board.

Thinline · Post: # 728850Post **Thinline** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 9:22am

Was watching The Teams on Fox last night and they suggested Port's best bet might be KC on Montagna, the latter being such a damaging runner ATM.

So surprises might work both ways.

They're the one's who've been talking the KC/Dal thing all week remember... Setting us up for a last minute switcheroo ...

older saint · Fri 24 Apr 2009 12:39pm

Don't you think moving him out to avoid a tag is conceeding? If i was port it would be a huge psychological boost of the 2nd best midfielder in the game on form this year is in the forward pocket at the first bounce.

This is where we find out if Dal has stepped up or if it is just like the trailer of a movie where all the good bits have been shown but the whole thing is average.
Judd, Ablett, etc take on the tagger. Lots of blocking and physicall presence on Cornes is the best way to beat a tag

saintsRrising · Fri 24 Apr 2009 1:07pm

karnak wrote:when did red hot become white hot?

I have seen it written in every football article this year. It seems new to me. red hot sounds better.

white hot? what are they.... a sun?

Well to me white hot...is hotter and so his form is better than red hot

saintsRrising · Fri 24 Apr 2009 1:08pm

bigcarl wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Games are mainly won in the midfield.
true, but dominating the midfield means nothing if you can't actually put it on the board.

If we beat PA in the midfield we will win the game IMO.

bigred · Post: # 728940Post **bigred** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 1:12pm

Dont avoid the tag.

Take it head on.

His team mates need to work to assist him to break it.

Solid workrate from all the mids/backs will let this happen.

I dont think we need to change what we are doing too much.

I just hope we see the 60+ tackle intensity that we should.

Thinline · Post: # 728946Post **Thinline** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 1:19pm

Schneider isn't playing awesome or anything and has a fairly clean history. Perhaps he just winds up from the forward pocket as the bounce goes up and slams a knee into the kidneys of that little Libba Kane Cornes. Maybe a month out? No doubt he'd come back fitter and better for the rest.

Just kidding. I think.

Dal will cream KC. Besides even if they cancel each other out we have WAY more midfield depth than them...

I really don't understand the concern.

Besides, I don't even think they'll line up on each other. Too obvious.

InkerSaint · Post: # 728956Post **InkerSaint** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 1:48pm

bigcarl wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Games are mainly won in the midfield.
true, but dominating the midfield means nothing if you can't actually put it on the board.

And yet the Saints have had no problem this year doing that - we have had more avenues to goal than ever before.

spert · Post: # 728965Post **spert** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 2:08pm

This will be Dal's big test tonight -it will prove whether or not he has taken the next step.

bigcarl · Post: # 728979Post **bigcarl** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 2:44pm

InkerSaint wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Games are mainly won in the midfield.
true, but dominating the midfield means nothing if you can't actually put it on the board.
And yet the Saints have had no problem this year doing that - we have had more avenues to goal than ever before.

i'm always wary that we'll slip back into old habits. tonight will be a big test.

SainterK · Post: # 729062Post **SainterK** » Fri 24 Apr 2009 5:07pm

bigred wrote:Dont avoid the tag.

Take it head on.

His team mates need to work to assist him to break it.

Solid workrate from all the mids/backs will let this happen.

I dont think we need to change what we are doing too much.

I just hope we see the 60+ tackle intensity that we should.

Exactly right, I would love to see his team mates helping out on this one. Just enough rough and tough to let Kane know Dal has some support out there.

BigMart · Post: # 731179Post **BigMart** » Mon 27 Apr 2009 8:54pm

did it happen......I heard it did...

bigcarl · Post: # 731188Post **bigcarl** » Mon 27 Apr 2009 9:16pm

BigMart wrote:did it happen......I heard it did.

yes, for a couple of minutes. was described as a win for st kilda.

BigMart · Post: # 731195Post **BigMart** » Mon 27 Apr 2009 9:26pm

Unfotunately I have not seen the game.....