Were we robbed of two goals ?
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Were we robbed of two goals ?
I was sitting on L3 behind the goals at the Northern end.
1) Looked like Roo got his foot to the ball a metre out just before the defender got his hand there but called as touched.
(That broke our run of 13 goals straight in Qtrs 2 to 3).
2) The snapshot from Gram a bit later that qtr looked to be clearly over the line before a WCE fist touched it.
Has anyone seen these on slow-mo or better on side angles ?
1) Looked like Roo got his foot to the ball a metre out just before the defender got his hand there but called as touched.
(That broke our run of 13 goals straight in Qtrs 2 to 3).
2) The snapshot from Gram a bit later that qtr looked to be clearly over the line before a WCE fist touched it.
Has anyone seen these on slow-mo or better on side angles ?
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It was a one handed paddle of a ball that was on the deck.maverick wrote:Yep and add another one where Roo handballed to BJ ( i think) in the first qtr, but was called a throw.
That ump is up for a holiday next week
Definitely not a handball.
But definitely not a throw !
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I was sitting in the Social Club forward pocket area on Level 1 and Gram's long bomb was at least half a metre over the goal line before it got touched. Unbelievable decision. Riewoldt's "throw" to Goddard who snapped what should have been his 4th goal in the opening quarter seemed to be a legitimate handball. What made that decision more perplexing is that the umpire called it a throw when he was on the opposite side of the pack. It would have been near impossible for him to see anything that would vindicate his decision. I couldn't judge whether Riewoldt's kick on the goaline was touched or not, but the sheer velocity of the ball suggests that the last thing it touched would have been Riewoldt's flying foot and not a defenders hand. So thats possibly 3 goals that we were very unlucky not to have on the scoreboard.
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shame really as it was a really nice kick from fifty after the earlier goal from him.vergs wrote:I was sitting in the Social Club forward pocket area on Level 1 and Gram's long bomb was at least half a metre over the goal line before it got touched.
bold statement: it was almost a whole of one meter over the line.
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i nearly jumped the fence and killed the goal ump when he called Grams GOAL 'touched'
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were we robbed two goals
i watched the game live on foxtell roo handball at first site looked a throw but handballed it kick of the ground come of defender last and showed no replay of Gram goal although a st kilda player in the goal square should have stopped the eagles player touching it
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We sit directly side on to the Lockett end goals on L2 & we could clearly see Gram's kick pass the goal line before the Eagles player touched it.
Roo's goal was kicked out of the hand of the Eagles defender (was paid touched and not kicking in danger!).
The umpire was on the same side of the pack as we were & you couldn't judge whether Roo threw the ball or not. He guessed & then gifted the Eagles a goal through a rubbish 50 metre penalty. Umpire Stefan Grun. Same idiot that was offended by Brad Johnson's gesture last week & hit him with a 50.
Roo's goal was kicked out of the hand of the Eagles defender (was paid touched and not kicking in danger!).
The umpire was on the same side of the pack as we were & you couldn't judge whether Roo threw the ball or not. He guessed & then gifted the Eagles a goal through a rubbish 50 metre penalty. Umpire Stefan Grun. Same idiot that was offended by Brad Johnson's gesture last week & hit him with a 50.
it was an absolutely disgraceful blunder from the goal umpire that needs to be replayed to him so that he can learn. you cant call them touched. that was a blistering kick from fifty and a beautiful goal.saintdooley wrote:i nearly jumped the fence and killed the goal ump when he called Grams GOAL 'touched'
you were right to remind that idiot dools.
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Have another look, definitely a handball.Enrico_Misso wrote:It was a one handed paddle of a ball that was on the deck.maverick wrote:Yep and add another one where Roo handballed to BJ ( i think) in the first qtr, but was called a throw.
That ump is up for a holiday next week
Definitely not a handball.
But definitely not a throw !
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Ump must be dropped, cannot guess like thatAnimal Enclosure wrote:We sit directly side on to the Lockett end goals on L2 & we could clearly see Gram's kick pass the goal line before the Eagles player touched it.
Roo's goal was kicked out of the hand of the Eagles defender (was paid touched and not kicking in danger!).
The umpire was on the same side of the pack as we were & you couldn't judge whether Roo threw the ball or not. He guessed & then gifted the Eagles a goal through a rubbish 50 metre penalty. Umpire Stefan Grun. Same idiot that was offended by Brad Johnson's gesture last week & hit him with a 50.
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exactly, I think Enrico must have his umpire glasses onmaverick wrote:Have another look, definitely a handball.Enrico_Misso wrote:It was a one handed paddle of a ball that was on the deck.maverick wrote:Yep and add another one where Roo handballed to BJ ( i think) in the first qtr, but was called a throw.
That ump is up for a holiday next week
Definitely not a handball.
But definitely not a throw !
clearly a handball from Roo
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sunsaint wrote: I think Enrico must have his umpire glasses on
clearly a handball from Roo
From my vantage point he certainly seemed to shape to paddle it.
But I happily defer to your judgement and the benefit of a replay.
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to be fair young man that umpire not only could not see the handpass/throw by roo but the football had actually rebounded off the goal postvergs wrote:I was sitting in the Social Club forward pocket area on Level 1 and Gram's long bomb was at least half a metre over the goal line before it got touched. Unbelievable decision. Riewoldt's "throw" to Goddard who snapped what should have been his 4th goal in the opening quarter seemed to be a legitimate handball. What made that decision more perplexing is that the umpire called it a throw when he was on the opposite side of the pack. It would have been near impossible for him to see anything that would vindicate his decision. I couldn't judge whether Riewoldt's kick on the goaline was touched or not, but the sheer velocity of the ball suggests that the last thing it touched would have been Riewoldt's flying foot and not a defenders hand. So thats possibly 3 goals that we were very unlucky not to have on the scoreboard.
This was the problem all day, he umpires were stuck on the wrong sid of packs and just guessed via the outcome not what they actually saw.
Little bit disapointing..... was terrible both ways
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how dare we talk about the game todaySaints Premiers 2008 wrote:you people are losers...umpires get it wrong...much likes players
we won by 16 goals...deal kiddies deal
this is the problem with the umpiring these days, no one is willing to make the call that it was wrong because certain people come out and accuss them of umpire bashing.
The level was very poor from the umpiring group today. So was the play of the eagles. Strange how we can say the second bit but not the first.........
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