Who is our next Captain?

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
thirty-seven!?
Club Player
Posts: 741
Joined: Tue 16 Dec 2008 10:20pm
Location: Melbourne

Who is our next Captain?

Post: # 710498Post thirty-seven!? »

I read an article this morning in one of the papers (and for the life of me, cant remember which one!), by Crawford, talking about how Hodge was the obvious choice to become captain of the Hawks in the next few years - How he is a natural leader, etc, etc.

He then made a list of who he expected would be the next captain of the remaining 15 clubs; For St.Kilda he chose Sam Fisher, which to me was an interesting one. Whether it is the fact that for the past 12months or so I have seen Goddard as the next captain choice, or just the assumption that Riewoldt will captain the club until he's 36... But it got me thinking...

I think that Sam Fisher would be a very good captain choice for the club - clearly a decent club man, and from all reports a great bloke on and off the field. And in 2008 (and years prior), he displayed the talents which he is capable of. The only catch is that he is actually 3 months older than Rooey. One would therefore expect it unlikely for him to step up at any point when Roo is around - however, this is definately open to debate!

I interested in who everyone else sees as Rooey's potential successor? How long will he be at the helm before he relenquishes the role?

Will it be one of our similar-aged players who have already shown a strong leadership ability, such as Sam Fisher, Goddard or Ball?

Or will it go to someone from the next generation of Saint, such as Armitage, Gilbert or Lynch?

Personally, i would like to see Goddard given a role in the near future - maybe not captain yet (as Roo is doing a fantastic job), but maybe as Vice Captain, because as much as we'd hate to admit it, Hayes is now our 4th oldest player behind Max, King and Gardy.


HarveysDeciple

Post: # 710507Post HarveysDeciple »

Brendand Goddard is a captain all the way.


User avatar
mightysainters
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 1986
Joined: Tue 16 Mar 2004 2:21pm
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 52 times

Post: # 710509Post mightysainters »

Goooodard without a doubt! passionate, is a leader, and a gun... everything points to him... :wink: And he will be an outstanding captain he is only getting better which is exciting


User avatar
n1ck
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9871
Joined: Sun 08 Aug 2004 2:28am
Location: Clarinda
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 91 times

Post: # 710514Post n1ck »

BJ Goddard, or Luke Ball - depending on fitness / form.


Go Sainters Go
Club Player
Posts: 444
Joined: Fri 29 Apr 2005 12:26pm
Location: Local Saint Territory
Contact:

Post: # 710519Post Go Sainters Go »

Roo will be with us for years to come and whilst retaining champion abilities and status on and off the field and respect from everyone at the Club and the AFL, should continue as Captain of the Club. Under his leadership with the support of great clubmen in Lenny, Sam Fisher, Bally, Steven King, Maxy, BJ, Kosi etc, we will ultimately secure the Holy Grail.

We are fortunate to have such an experienced and talented core group of leaders to encourage and influence the younger talent from where our future leaders will come, but not for some years yet.


Once a "Saint" always a trueblooded "Saint"
User avatar
bethb7
Club Player
Posts: 306
Joined: Wed 11 Jun 2008 5:37pm
Location: MELBOURNE

Post: # 710548Post bethb7 »

Sam Fisher gets my vote as our next captain, great player & leader.


If you can't give the commitment you gave this year and you don't want to improve, you can go because we have unfinished business-Ross Lyon
User avatar
stinger
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 38126
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 9:06pm
Location: Australia.

Post: # 710553Post stinger »

bj......


.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will

"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"

However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
User avatar
Raven
Club Player
Posts: 609
Joined: Mon 08 Oct 2007 9:51pm

Post: # 710556Post Raven »

IMO Sam Fisher isn't that great at interviews, he speaks a bit too slowly and doesn't seem confident to me with what he's saying... which is fine, because not everyone does that kind of thing well.
But, it's a pretty important factor, the way you represent the club to the media if you're captain.

I think Goddard all the way, and possibly Armo in the distant future.


User avatar
Saints Premiers 2008
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4335
Joined: Thu 27 Oct 2005 11:21pm
Location: Brisbane

Post: # 710557Post Saints Premiers 2008 »

Raven wrote:IMO Sam Fisher isn't that great at interviews, he speaks a bit too slowly and doesn't seem confident to me with what he's saying... which is fine, because not everyone does that kind of thing well.
But, it's a pretty important factor, the way you represent the club to the media if you're captain.

I think Goddard all the way, and possibly Armo in the distant future.
goddard gives cliche answers and sounds like your typical manly-big-man captain


"It's a work in progress," Lyon said.
vacuous space
SS Life Member
Posts: 3465
Joined: Fri 29 Oct 2004 1:01pm
Has thanked: 91 times
Been thanked: 162 times

Post: # 710568Post vacuous space »

bethb7 wrote:Sam Fisher gets my vote as our next captain, great player & leader.
Not to mention 10 days older than our current captain.


Yeah nah pleasing positive
User avatar
Winmarvellous
Club Player
Posts: 1691
Joined: Mon 25 Sep 2006 8:13pm
Location: WA

Post: # 710631Post Winmarvellous »

Winmarvellous Jr. :lol:


User avatar
Armoooo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7281
Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
Location: The Great South East
Contact:

Post: # 710661Post Armoooo »

Winmarvellous wrote:Winmarvellous Jr. :lol:
He's definitely a candidate, just not sure if he's in our best 22 :lol:


ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
User avatar
rexy
SS Life Member
Posts: 3373
Joined: Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:12am
Location: The Gully

Post: # 711338Post rexy »

If Reiwoldt stays with the saints long term then it may be a case that Roo and BJ are to close in age for BJ to get a crack. If that is the case then whilst being happy to stick with one captain for a long time, it concerns me that I cant see a 20 year old with any leadership qualities? In fact I cant see a 20 year old with a regular game at the moment?

Armo hasnt even shown that he can cement a senior spot, McEvoy yet to prove he is even a player, How old is Eddy? Was he the only 20 year old in the regular side at the end of last season?

Heaps of deputies for today but what is the future.

We need a Marcus North and a Phil Hughes urgently.


Maybe this year?
User avatar
SaintWodonga
Club Player
Posts: 1868
Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
Location: Wodonga
Contact:

Post: # 711339Post SaintWodonga »

Godard no doubt... True leader


Tony Lockett kicks 10 goals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v4ZQJHjlvM
saint1974
Club Player
Posts: 425
Joined: Mon 01 Sep 2008 4:31pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Post: # 711341Post saint1974 »

BJ next captain he bleeds the red white and black.


Sainternist
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11313
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
Location: South of Heaven
Has thanked: 1309 times
Been thanked: 443 times

Post: # 711756Post Sainternist »

Lenny Hayes.

Was perfect as captain in 2004 and should have remained captain if it weren't for GT's hairbrain scheme.


Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Image
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 711774Post plugger66 »

The person may not even be at the club yet.


User avatar
Armoooo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7281
Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
Location: The Great South East
Contact:

Post: # 711797Post Armoooo »

Sainternist wrote:Lenny Hayes.

Was perfect as captain in 2004 and should have remained captain if it weren't for GT's hairbrain scheme.
Strongly disagree, IMO we are spoilt for choice for captains... Look at Port Adelaide and Richmond, they both ended up with good captains but when you look at their list you don't see the same sort of leaders that you see when you red Luke Ball, Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt and Brendon Goddard. Any of those four are worthy to be captain of the club and three of those players got their shot at captaincy thanks to that hair brained scheme.

It is important to remember if it wasn't for Harvey stepping down in favour of the rotational captain policy than Hayes probably wouldn't have been captain in '04.

IMO it served it's purpose greatly and I'm surprised it hasn't been adopted by more teams on the rebuild.


ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
User avatar
TassieJones
Club Player
Posts: 276
Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 9:17pm
Location: The NCR

Post: # 711871Post TassieJones »

All depends on how long Riewoldt is captain for for.

If he copped an achilles (god forbid) tomorrow it'd be Lenny, mid term Ball (Fisher's the same age as Roo so it'd be kind of pointless Roo handing it over to him) and long term Goddard or someone not yet at the club.

Unfortunately at this stage I can't see Armo or Gilbert becoming quite good enough players to be captaincy material. I'm a believer that you have to be able to perform and set a high standard to be captain, and at this stage I can't see those two becoming quite good enough players.


manoffewwords
Club Player
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat 14 Mar 2009 3:05pm

Post: # 711944Post manoffewwords »

BJ.


Say something once why say it again?
User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Post: # 713836Post Con Gorozidis »

HarveysDeciple wrote:Brendand Goddard is a captain all the way.
agree. BJ. clearly.


Sainternist
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11313
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
Location: South of Heaven
Has thanked: 1309 times
Been thanked: 443 times

Post: # 714070Post Sainternist »

Armoooo wrote:three of those players got their shot at captaincy thanks to that hair brained scheme.

It is important to remember if it wasn't for Harvey stepping down in favour of the rotational captain policy than Hayes probably wouldn't have been captain in '04.

IMO it served it's purpose greatly and I'm surprised it hasn't been adopted by more teams on the rebuild.
In what way did the rotational captain policy actaully work?

I thought Lenny was a natural leader and demonstrated this in 2004. For me, it just didn't seem necessary to disrupt the leadership process by changing the captaincy after 2004.

And I'm pretty sure the other clubs didn't adopt the system because they cottonned onto the fact that it actually is a hair brained scheme.

A total GT gimmick. Say no more.


Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Image
User avatar
Otiman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8512
Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
Location: Elsewhere
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 600 times

Post: # 714074Post Otiman »

The next captain of the club is probably 13-15 years old at present. Riewoldt will captain the side until he retires, and a 20-21 year old will then be picked as captain imo.


User avatar
Beej
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6864
Joined: Mon 04 Apr 2005 3:57pm
Location: Carlton Norf

Post: # 714076Post Beej »

Sam Fisher has always struck me as being shy.

If he is, then not really what you want in a skipper.

Sure, skippers also need to lead by example on the field with their actions, but IMO it is important that your leader be naturally vocal.


Post Reply