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50 Bryce Gibbs
49 Grant Birchall
48 Kane Cornes
47 Drew Petrie
46 Dale Thomas
45 Chance Bateman
44 Brendon Goddard
43 Travis Cloke
42 Ryan Griffen
41 Brett Deledio
40 Simon Goodwin
39 Scott Pendlebury
38 Jarras Mcveigh
37 Dane Swan
36 Nathan Bock
35 Paul Chapman
34 Daniel Bradshaw
33 Brad Ottens
32 Ryan Okeefe
31 Alan Didak
30 Luke Power
29 Steve Johnson
28 Brad Sewell
27 Joel Selwood
26 Sam Fisher
25 Sam Mitchell
24 Cameron Ling
23 Dale Morris
22 Jarryd Roughhead
21 Darren Glass
20 Chad Cornes
19 Daniel Kerr
18 Shaun Burgoyne
17 Adam Goodes
16 Brent Harvey
15 Matthew Richardson
14 Joel Corey
13 Adam Cooney
12 Simon Black
11 Jimmy Bartel
10 Matthew Scarlett
9 Matthew Pavlich
8 Nick Riewoldt
7 Jonathan Brown
6 Brendan Fevola
5 Luke Hodge
4 Dean Cox
3 Lance Franklin
2 Chris Judd
1 Garry Ablett
wot a heap of frog crap......
are thomas and bateman better footballers than ball, hayes and joey......i think not.....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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I was wondering why it took so long for a thread on this to start?
Sheahan claims his list is based on what he expects the players to do this season.
I find Ball to be the really interesting one.
For Judd he specifically mentions that because he's had a great, uninterrupted pre-season he is expecting big things from him.
Well why not the same thoughts on Luke Ball?
I find it puzzling that given Ball's final season prior to OP (the same affliction that 'cruelly afflicted' Judd) was nothing short of brilliant.
My guess is he's forgotten how good Luke Ball was?
But then again, the Top 50 it is only Mike's opinion.
50 Bryce Gibbs
49 Grant Birchall
48 Kane Cornes
47 Drew Petrie
46 Dale Thomas
45 Chance Bateman
44 Brendon Goddard
43 Travis Cloke
42 Ryan Griffen
41 Brett Deledio
40 Simon Goodwin
39 Scott Pendlebury
38 Jarras Mcveigh
37 Dane Swan
36 Nathan Bock
35 Paul Chapman
34 Daniel Bradshaw
33 Brad Ottens
32 Ryan Okeefe
31 Alan Didak
30 Luke Power
29 Steve Johnson
28 Brad Sewell
27 Joel Selwood
26 Sam Fisher
25 Sam Mitchell
24 Cameron Ling
23 Dale Morris
22 Jarryd Roughhead
21 Darren Glass
20 Chad Cornes
19 Daniel Kerr
18 Shaun Burgoyne
17 Adam Goodes
16 Brent Harvey
15 Matthew Richardson
14 Joel Corey
13 Adam Cooney
12 Simon Black
11 Jimmy Bartel
10 Matthew Scarlett
9 Matthew Pavlich
8 Nick Riewoldt
7 Jonathan Brown
6 Brendan Fevola
5 Luke Hodge
4 Dean Cox
3 Lance Franklin
2 Chris Judd
1 Garry Ablett
wot a heap of frog crap......
are thomas and bateman better footballers than ball, hayes and joey......i think not.....
It's subjective, and only a matter of oppinion.
But Riewoldt is better then Fevola,
Sam Mitchell is better then Dale Morris.
And a player like Nathan Foley is probably better then the likes of Birchall, and has done far more then Bryce Gibbs and Jarred McVeigh im not convinced on at all.
I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
I was offering my opinion on his top 50. Dont reckon I mentioned anyone. Didnt quote anyone just offering an opinion just like you are.
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
I was offering my opinion on his top 50. Dont reckon I mentioned anyone. Didnt quote anyone just offering an opinion just like you are.
Don't accuse me of offering an opinion!!!
I'm wih you on this one. I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong.
Like Sheahan
Like Caro
Like Fatpryck
Like the Umpires
Like the MRP
Like the Tribunal
Like Monkey Boy
Like Dimwit
Like Collo
Like the AFL
Te trouble on here is that when a list like this is published..if less than 40% of the players arent St Kilda ppl have a sook..cos weve won the last 4 flags of course
Just for the record IMHO, Dale Thomas I think is actually a better player than Leigh Montagna right now....there, lynch me cos I put a Collingwood player in front of a St Kilda one..heresy
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
I was offering my opinion on his top 50. Dont reckon I mentioned anyone. Didnt quote anyone just offering an opinion just like you are.
Don't accuse me of offering an opinion!!!
I'm wih you on this one. I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong.
Like Sheahan
Like Caro
Like Fatpryck
Like the Umpires
Like the MRP
Like the Tribunal
Like Monkey Boy
Like Dimwit
Like Collo
Like the AFL
Given this list is based on expectations - i make the following observations
50 Bryce Gibbs - about right
49 Grant Birchall shouldnt be on list
48 Kane Cornes - about right
47 Drew Petrie - about right
46 Dale Thomas - about right
45 Chance Bateman - about right
44 Brendon Goddard - should be 10 - 20
43 Travis Cloke - about right
42 Ryan Griffen - about right
41 Brett Deledio - should be 10-20
40 Simon Goodwin - shouldnt be on list
39 Scott Pendlebury - about right
38 Jarras Mcveigh - about right
37 Dane Swan a little high - 40 - 50
36 Nathan Bock - about right
35 Paul Chapman - about right
34 Daniel Bradshaw - a little high 40-50
33 Brad Ottens - about right
32 Ryan Okeefe - too high - 40 - 50
31 Alan Didak - too low - 20 - 30
30 Luke Power - too high - 40 - 50
29 Steve Johnson - about right
28 Brad Sewell - about right
27 Joel Selwood - about right
26 Sam Fisher - about right - could have pushed top 20 no problem
25 Sam Mitchell - about right
24 Cameron Ling - about right
23 Dale Morris - too high - 30-40
22 Jarryd Roughhead - about right
21 Darren Glass - too high - no impact at all this year
20 Chad Cornes - about right - should bounce back
19 Daniel Kerr - about right
18 Shaun Burgoyne - about right
17 Adam Goodes - about right
16 Brent Harvey - about right
15 Matthew Richardson - too high - had his good year - overrated
14 Joel Corey - gets carried - would be 40 - 50 in any other mid
13 Adam Cooney - about right
12 Simon Black - too high 20 - 30
11 Jimmy Bartel - about right
10 Matthew Scarlett - seriously overrated, not the best KPD in the comp
9 Matthew Pavlich - about right, behind riewoldt
8 Nick Riewoldt - should be 5
7 Jonathan Brown - should be 8
6 Brendan Fevola - should be 10 - 20
5 Luke Hodge - about right
4 Dean Cox - about right, #6
3 Lance Franklin - about right
2 Chris Judd - about right
1 Garry Ablett - about right
Quixote wrote:Luke Power at 30? Umm, this is not 2004 Mike. I watched a lot of Brisbane last season and he is less than impressive these days. Not top 50.
I watched quite a bit of him last year and thought he was incredibly underrated for effectiveness. Go figure.
i know its a top50.. but wouldn't all the all-australians from last years 22 be the top 22 for this year? we finished 4th and sam fisher was our best and fairest, yet he didn't make the top20 :S
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
I was offering my opinion on his top 50. Dont reckon I mentioned anyone. Didnt quote anyone just offering an opinion just like you are.
Don't accuse me of offering an opinion!!!
I'm wih you on this one. I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong.
Like Sheahan
Like Caro
Like Fatpryck
Like the Umpires
Like the MRP
Like the Tribunal
Like Monkey Boy
Like Dimwit
Like Collo
Like the AFL
awesome_days wrote:Given this list is based on expectations - i make the following observations
50 Bryce Gibbs - not yet
49 Grant Birchall ?
48 Kane Cornes - Bit low
47 Drew Petrie - bit low
46 Dale Thomas - about right
45 Chance Bateman - about right
44 Brendon Goddard - perhaps low 30's
43 Travis Cloke - too high
42 Ryan Griffen - about right
41 Brett Deledio - too low
40 Simon Goodwin - shouldnt be on list ( Thomspn better from Adel)
39 Scott Pendlebury - about right
38 Jarrad Mcveigh - about right
37 Dane Swan - bit low replace with Didak
36 Nathan Bock - about right
35 Paul Chapman - bit high
34 Daniel Bradshaw - a little high 40-50
33 Brad Ottens - about right
32 Ryan Okeefe - about right
31 Alan Didak - too lhigh
30 Luke Power - too high - 40 - 50
29 Steve Johnson - about right
28 Brad Sewell - tad low
27 Joel Selwood - tad low
26 Sam Fisher - about right -
25 Sam Mitchell - about right
24 Cameron Ling - about right
23 Dale Morris - too low underrated
22 Jarryd Roughhead - tad high,
21 Darren Glass - too high - no impact at all this year
20 Chad Cornes - about right - should bounce back
19 Daniel Kerr - bit high - hasn't done it yet without Judd or Cousins
18 Shaun Burgoyne - about right
17 Adam Goodes - about right
16 Brent Harvey - bit low
15 Matthew Richardson - too low underrated gun who carried hi team for years.
14 Joel Corey - about right
13 Adam Cooney - about right
12 Simon Black - too low
11 Jimmy Bartel - too low
10 Matthew Scarlett - too high, the best KPD in the comp but likefletcher doesn't get best often
9 Matthew Pavlich - touch high -overrated and selfish
8 Nick Riewoldt - about right
7 Jonathan Brown - should be 8
6 Brendan Fevola - about 9
5 Luke Hodge - about right
4 Dean Cox - about right,
3 Lance Franklin - about 4 too high
2 Chris Judd - about right
1 Garry Ablett - right
plugger66 wrote:I hate people who have opinions that are clearly wrong. lets face it we are not biased and if we had a top 50 everyone on here would pick the same 50 in order for sure. Sheahan you have no idea.
Plugger, forget the sarcasm.
Why the need for you to respond to other posters' opinions on anything that you don't agree with?
I was offering my opinion on his top 50. Dont reckon I mentioned anyone. Didnt quote anyone just offering an opinion just like you are.
you got something right for once.......sheahan doesn't have a clue.........
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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