Do we need a NEW ruck coach? !!

Eastern · Post: # 682136Post **Eastern** » Thu 04 Dec 2008 4:45pm

And, if so, who should we target?

The other thread re Simon Madden has been hijacked so I thought I'd start a new one;

FWIW I think Scott Wynd might be worth looking at, as would John Barnes.

Any other names that should be thrown up? !!

Go Sainters Go · Thu 04 Dec 2008 4:53pm

Barks4eva - he tells us all how good he is at everything including his ranting over Rix a couple of years ago.
So B4E for ruck coach as well as - President, CEO (Can then locate the Club at Elsternwick) Head Coach and bootstudder and GT's advisor.

jays · Post: # 682139Post **jays** » Thu 04 Dec 2008 4:53pm

i dont think so this year i think we done pretty well in the ruck

St Fidelius · Thu 04 Dec 2008 5:12pm

I know that this person works in the media, but one would presume the position will be on a part time bases in any case...

Luke Darcy

Sainter_Dad · Thu 04 Dec 2008 5:17pm

Rix Rox Rux!

But more realistically - Gardi and King are both A Grade ruckmen - could they not also coach our up and comers?

Winmar7Fan · Post: # 682526Post **Winmar7Fan** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 5:08pm

Is Matthew Clarke available?

ctqs · Post: # 682537Post **ctqs** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 5:19pm

I thought Crackers Keenan was returning?

IluvHarvey · Post: # 682560Post **IluvHarvey** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 6:19pm

St Fidelius wrote:I know that this person works in the media, but one would presume the position will be on a part time bases in any case...

Luke Darcy

He was my first thought or Vivovic

SaintBot · Post: # 682563Post **SaintBot** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 6:24pm

Going with Ross' Sydney connection, Jason Ball could be a chance.

St Fidelius · Fri 05 Dec 2008 6:35pm

SaintBot wrote:Going with Ross' Sydney connection, Jason Ball could be a chance.

I would somehow doubt if he would move interstate for what is basically a part time position.

Iceman234 · Post: # 682576Post **Iceman234** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 6:51pm

St Fidelius wrote:I know that this person works in the media, but one would presume the position will be on a part time bases in any case...

Luke Darcy

Seconded, or thirded sorry.

St Fidelius · Fri 05 Dec 2008 8:00pm

Iceman234 wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:I know that this person works in the media, but one would presume the position will be on a part time bases in any case...

Luke Darcy
Seconded, or thirded sorry.

Yeah mate, he comes across very well in the media and his thoughts of the games he covers are insightful IMO...

Would be great if the Club approached him so he can pass his knowledge to the younger rucks we have at the Club

onlooker · Post: # 682618Post **onlooker** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 8:01pm

St Fidelius wrote:
SaintBot wrote:Going with Ross' Sydney connection, Jason Ball could be a chance.
I would somehow doubt if he would move interstate for what is basically a part time position.

I seem to recall that Ball was a Board member of the Swans and worked for the Macquarie Bank in Sydney. Unless he's had a dramatic change of employment (which is quite possibly the case given recent events) and he's no longer on the Swan's Board I'd say our chances with him are just about zero.

Legendary · Post: # 682622Post **Legendary** » Fri 05 Dec 2008 8:11pm

If he worked for Macquarie Bank then he might jump at the job of part-time ruck coach at the moment!

In all seriousness ... what do Luke Darcy/Matthew Clarke/Spider Everitt/John Barnes etc know about ruckwork that Steven King and Michael Gardiner don't?

We have two extremely experienced ruckman, both of who have played a lot of AFL footy and understand how to ruck extremely well at the highest level.

Their tutelage will be excellent for Ben McEvoy and Rhys Stanley IMO.

wasoncestkil58 · Fri 05 Dec 2008 8:51pm

As long as they don't let Gardiner give the young guys driving lessons!!!!!
Seriously though, I doubt if they would just use King and Gardi as ruck coaches while they are still on the playing list.

borderbarry · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:59pm

Maybe Stewie Loewe should be approached. He was no slouch as a ruckman.

Eastern · Post: # 682771Post **Eastern** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 5:08pm

Archie has stated that we will be getting a part-time ruck coach. He didn't say who or when !!

Iceman234 · Post: # 682917Post **Iceman234** » Sun 07 Dec 2008 1:43pm

Legendary wrote: In all seriousness ... what do Luke Darcy/Matthew Clarke/Spider Everitt/John Barnes etc know about ruckwork that Steven King and Michael Gardiner don't?

I don't think it's in dispute that they (SK and MG) know ruckwork well, but a ruck coach (even part-time) should be bringing to the group a different perspective by analysing other teams rucks, and examining contemporary ruck methods.

The little things that King and MG wouldn't have time to do, as they would be working on their own games.

I can't see why it shouldn't be only a part-time position, as the rucks should also be working closely with the midfield coach and mids group.

saintspremiers · Sun 07 Dec 2008 9:52pm

How about David Cloke?

He's an old bugger, but has spent plenty of time watching his kids playing both VFL and AFL recently, and an avid student of the game.