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International Rookie Player

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International Rookies (including Irish) must be signed and nominated for pre selection by 10 AM tomorrow (Tuesday 2 Dec)

Does anyone have any rumours of St Kilda action?


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Thought Irish couldn't be included under internationals due to agreement with GAA?

I thought th Irish just had to be drafted straight up. Other international rookies can be listed outside the "main" rookie list (up to 2 per club) and reserved pre-draft in recognition of the extra research and upside to the game delivered by the clubs developing these recruiting regions.

Wheras the Irish are basically being poached from a semi-pro league who the AFL wishes to keep a working relationship with. While obviously the finances mean the AFL is in a stronger position, they recognise there is value to keeping the GAA onside and hence don't include the Irish under the "International" rookies banner.


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Tommy Walsh is training with us this week.


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ralphysaints35 wrote:Tommy Walsh is training with us this week.
r u serious??? does that mean he will nominate tomorrow but decide l8r if he wants to play?? i hope it does coz i really want this dude to play with us, Colm Begley should tell him to play, lol


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ralphysaints35 wrote:Tommy Walsh is training with us this week.
shouldn't he be on our permission to train list if that was the case?????????


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ralphysaints35 wrote:Tommy Walsh is training with us this week.
shouldn't he be on our permission to train list if that was the case?????????
Email from archie that said he is training with us later this week ,


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Tommy Walsh was due out here 2 weeks ago, but his club drew a final which was only replayed at the weekend.
If the club can get his agreement they should put him in for pre-selection as an International Rookie sight unseen.
He is rated the No1 kid in Ireland.
Surely that has to be better than pick 150 among Australian kids.


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[quote="BAM! (shhhh)"]Thought Irish couldn't be included under internationals due to agreement with GAA?[/quote]

Under age Irish kids can NOT be placed on International Scholarships.
But if they turn 18 before the end of the year they can be pre-selected as International Rookies.
Consequently they count against the 6 normal rookies and don't count as bonus rookies (max of 3) like former scholarship holders Haretuku and McGrath.


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well i hope he nominates by tomorrow


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hope he does looks like he could be good for us


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jays wrote:hope he does looks like he could be good for us
you have seen footage of him????


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Post: # 680891Post henno »

hey ralphy, i think you'll find that is says that tommy walsh is unfortunately unlikely to be signed for us in 2008.
archie made that clear last friday in the "ask archie" section of saintscentral.


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Post: # 680933Post undecided »

so is he coming down training with us or not


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Post: # 680960Post henno »

nah pretty sure hes not coming down mate

although another player, james kielt from derby is on our permission to train list, so who knows


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anyone have an updated permission to train list??????


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Why didnt St kilda get an Irish boy to nominate for a international rookie position?!?


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so nobody nominated??????


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From the AFL site:

FOUR Irishmen and a Canadian have been named as AFL rookies at the close of nominations for international players.

Adelaide, Essendon, North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans have listed overseas rookies.

The Crows have taken Brian Donnelly from County Louth, Essendon has selected Michael Quinn from County Longford, North Melbourne has picked Connor Meredith from County Laois, and County Tyrone's Kyle Coney and Canadian rugby international Michael Pyke have joined the Swans.

Five NSW scholarship listed players have been added to club rookie lists: Scott Reed [Collingwood], Ranga Ediriwickrama [Geelong], William Sierakowski [Hawthorn], Blake McGrath [St Kilda] and Christopher Ogle [Western Bulldogs].

Collingwood has also rookie-listed Lachlan Keefe, who was taken as a three-year non-registered player.

The remaining key dates in the lead-up to the 2008 NAB Pre-Season Draft and 2008 NAB Rookie Draft are as follows:

* Wed Dec 3, 3pm - List Lodgement 3 and TPP Estimates.

* Tue Dec 9, 2pm - Delisted players nominate.

* Tue Dec 16, 10am - 2008 NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting.

* Tue Dec 16, 10.15am - Brisbane Lions and Sydney Swans nominate eligible rookie list players.

* Tue Dec 16, 10.15am - Nomination of third-year rookies.

* Tue Dec 16, 10.30am - 2008 NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting


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Pretty disappointing considering most of the Irish boys were going to train with us at some stage. Was looking forward to having an international presence in the side - would have been a rookie player worth a good risk i reckon...


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kosifantutti23 wrote: Five NSW scholarship listed players have been added to club rookie lists: Scott Reed [Collingwood], Ranga Ediriwickrama [Geelong], William Sierakowski [Hawthorn], Blake McGrath [St Kilda] and Christopher Ogle [Western Bulldogs].
I wonder if there is any family connection to our own Sierakowski family?


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yes very disappointing, how many guys actually ended up training with us


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Official List as of 2 December

All AFL club lists as at December 2, 2008 following nomination of scholarship-listed and international rookie-list players.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... wsId=70550

ST KILDA
1. Allen, Jarryd
2. Armitage, David
3. Baker, Steven
4. Ball, Luke
5. Begley, Colm
6. Blake, Jason
7. Cahill, Paul
8. Clarke, Raphael
9. Clarke, Xavier
10. Connors, Eljay
11. Dal Santo, Nick
12. Dempster, Sean
13. Eddy, Robert
14. Fisher, Leigh
15. Fisher, Sam
16. Gardiner, Michael
17. Geary, Jarryn
18. Gilbert, Sam
19. Goddard, Brendon
20. Gram, Jason
21. Gwilt, James
22. Hayes, Lenny
23. Heyne, Nick
24. Hudghton, Max (veteran – outside list)
25. Jones, Clinton
26. King, Steven
27. Koschitzke, Justin
28. Lynch, Tom
29. Maguire, Matt
30. McEvoy, Ben
31. McQualter, Andrew
32. Milne, Stephen
33. Montagna, Leigh
34. Ray, Farren
35. Riewoldt, Nick
36. Schneider, Adam
37. Smith, Alistair
38. Stanley, Rhys
39. Steven, Jack
Rookie List
1. Haretuku, Khan
2. McGrath, Blake
3. Miles, Luke
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

ADDITIONS:
Father-Son selection: –
Exchange period – received: Farren Ray (Western Bulldogs)
Rookie elevation: Robert Eddy, Andrew McQualter
Scholarship elevation: Blake McGrath (Pennant Hills) – rookie list
NAB AFL Draft: Colm Begley (Brisbane Lions), Paul Cahill (Sturt), Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power), Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons), Alistair Smith (Perth), Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide)
International rookie selection: –
Three-year non-registered player selection: –
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft:
NAB AFL Rookie Draft:

DELETIONS:
Retired: Fraser Gehrig, Robert Harvey (veteran – inside list)
Exchange period – traded: –
Delisted: Shane Birss, Matthew Ferguson, Aaron Fiora, Charlie Gardiner, Brad Howard (second list lodgment), Michael Rix, Jayden Attard (rookie), Glenn Chivers (rookie), Luke van Rheenen (rookie)


[b]I am most disappointed that we did not include any Irish International Rookie at all.[/b]


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Post: # 681246Post ace »

James Kielt told Irish newspapersa that he wouldn't be moving to Australia in 2009 because of his Irish dentistry university commitments even before he came out to Australia to train.

Does anyone know if Niall McKeever trained with St Kilda, he was supposed to spend a week at each of Richmond & St Kilda.


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Keep enticing the Irish boys to Saint Kilda

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Ace asked
"Does anyone know if Niall McKeever trained with St Kilda, he was supposed to spend a week at each of Richmond & St Kilda." [/quote].
I don't know but i would also be disappointed if we didnot have a real shot at the likes of Tommy Walsh or Niall McKeever. If it turned out to come together in 2009 that would be something positive hopefully but it would be really nice to get a real Irish prospect (dare i say iy like a Keneally or Stynes) in the system this year. In our first post Harvey year with a bit of Team restructering oaround the corner another Irish player to compliment Begley seems to make sense to me.

I'm sure all Sainters want to believe that our recruiters are turning over every stone in a determined effort to bring genuine talent to our club.

Cead mile failte (You're very welcome in Irish) to Colm and the other Irish players who wanted to come down to check out the Saints.

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