Your all time favourite "GOP" for the Saints?
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saw newport head off on a run immediately after a game on more than one occasion...seems he didn't leave all he had on the field......
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Enrico_Misso wrote:Michael Roberts
John Bonney
Tony Brown
and of course
Grant Thomas
bonney was a class above the other three........saw him beat ian stewart in a game for tasmania against victoria...only time i ever saw stewart beaten by anybody.........
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Andrew Thompson - started at 25 but became captain. I used to call him a poor man's Robert Harvey, which sounded like a sledge, even though it was intended as a compliment.
Jason Blake - probably the least skilled footballer in the big league a few years ago but works his tail off and has played 100 gutsy games.
Frank Coghlan - always found the ball, especially in the wet, but never got the credit.
Jason Blake - probably the least skilled footballer in the big league a few years ago but works his tail off and has played 100 gutsy games.
Frank Coghlan - always found the ball, especially in the wet, but never got the credit.
Still waiting for closure ... if you get my drift.
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You're right on the first bit. But he was one of the fittest blokes going around and was played off the bench a bit in some games. That's why he'd go for a run afterwards, to make sure he did the work one way or another.stinger wrote:saw newport head off on a run immediately after a game on more than one occasion...seems he didn't leave all he had on the field......
Still waiting for closure ... if you get my drift.
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Stephen Newport was an interesting player in that I wasn't quite sure how to rate him. In some respects he was probably our original tagger in the development of the 'modern'game. He certainly had what many call today the football smarts in working out the better ways of closing down an opponent's effectiveness before it became a regular feature of the game, and when doing this he had the ability to withstand very heavy pressure (he took some big hits probably reportable today). My other memory of his time with the Saints is that he lacked consistency. (Hang On - I think I have heard that before)[/quote][/quote][/quote]onlooker wrote:Was relieved when we delisted him.Enrico_Misso wrote:[quote="sunsaint]Stephen Newport???
Then we turned around and redrafted him![]()
Much maligned, but did a job, and did it ok. GOP.
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If he was in the current squad he'd get a game every weekstinger wrote:Superboot wrote:Neil Besanko, Stephen Theodore, Barney Rae, Skeeter Coghlan, Tim Pekin, Peter Bell, Shane Grambeau
As for Grant, in 1991 we had about 6 players who were the best in the comp in their respective positions, and Dave was one of them.
shane grambeau was not...repeat not ..a gop......he was a jap........just a player.....
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I agree with you that Cowboy wouldn't be in the "elite of the elite." I was perhaps being too protective of him. It's the stardust in my eyes. That's the '66 team for you. I'm sure you share my love of them. But surely there is a rank between that and GOP. It can't just be those two categories. How about Cowboy being at least VGOP? Can we agree on that?stinger wrote:SteveStevens66 wrote:Stuart Trott, Ian Synman, Johnny Stephens, Wayne Judson, Andrew Thompson, Frankie Peckett.
As for Cowboy--ridiculous calling him a GOP. A champion pure and simple.
to us he was a champion.....to football purists who don't have red white and black stardust in their eyes he was a good ordinary player.......would not be regarded in the elite of the elite.......as an aside....a player as fat as he was wouldn't even get picked today.......stuart dew could hide in cowboy's shorts.......
Stinger, you know that its not valid to say: "....a player as fat as he was wouldn't even get picked today." Baldock wouldn't pass the fat-fold test or a BEEP test today either. You wouldn't justify leaving him out of a team today because he wasn't ripped, would you?
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yep.......settled cowboy was indeed a vgop.......could still kick 15-20 goals in a game in the act when he was so fat he cast a shadow that covered the goal square....SteveStevens66 wrote:stinger wrote:I agree with you that Cowboy wouldn't be in the "elite of the elite." I was perhaps being too protective of him. It's the stardust in my eyes. That's the '66 team for you. I'm sure you share my love of them. But surely there is a rank between that and GOP. It can't just be those two categories. How about Cowboy being at least VGOP? Can we agree on that?SteveStevens66 wrote:Stuart Trott, Ian Synman, Johnny Stephens, Wayne Judson, Andrew Thompson, Frankie Peckett.
As for Cowboy--ridiculous calling him a GOP. A champion pure and simple.
to us he was a champion.....to football purists who don't have red white and black stardust in their eyes he was a good ordinary player.......would not be regarded in the elite of the elite.......as an aside....a player as fat as he was wouldn't even get picked today.......stuart dew could hide in cowboy's shorts.......
Stinger, you know that its not valid to say: "....a player as fat as he was wouldn't even get picked today." Baldock wouldn't pass the fat-fold test or a BEEP test today either. You wouldn't justify leaving him out of a team today because he wasn't ripped, would you?
i ran into the doc at the airport when we were both off to tassie following the 1965 grand final.....i tapped him in the stomach to say bad luck.......he nearly fell over........i was terribly surprised that his gut was as soft as it was....mine was rock hard as i did a lot of weights at the time and was playing in tassie......agree on the doc....but it goes to show that it's hard for a pure footballer to get drafted these days if they aren't an athlete as well.....
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not only Newport, I remember Harvs being accused of exactly the same thing. Would think it nothing more than his warm down routine.ctqs wrote:You're right on the first bit. But he was one of the fittest blokes going around and was played off the bench a bit in some games. That's why he'd go for a run afterwards, to make sure he did the work one way or another.stinger wrote:saw newport head off on a run immediately after a game on more than one occasion...seems he didn't leave all he had on the field......
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no...would run for miles...can't remember the exact distances......sunsaint wrote:not only Newport, I remember Harvs being accused of exactly the same thing. Would think it nothing more than his warm down routine.ctqs wrote:You're right on the first bit. But he was one of the fittest blokes going around and was played off the bench a bit in some games. That's why he'd go for a run afterwards, to make sure he did the work one way or another.stinger wrote:saw newport head off on a run immediately after a game on more than one occasion...seems he didn't leave all he had on the field......
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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The Cowboy IMO has to be regarded as a champion of the Club. He lacked height compared with the big ruckman of the day, his weight problems increased as his playing career progressed and when playing as a key forward his kicking accuracy occassionally deserted him. All that said what he did have was absolutely superb judgement to get the ball both in the air and when it was bouncing around at knee to waist level. Having that jugement, coupled with his natural aggression and being a proud StK player provided him with a long career as a champion of the Club. He definitely was NOT a GOP.
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Just a question - In 1997 in particular, I really liked Jason Heatley. I remember him winning games for us from full forward. But it became apparent over time that he had trouble marking overhead, or at least that's the conventional wisdom... so his role in the team was phased out. Would you say he was a GOP? I thought much higher than that in 1997, but by the end of his time with us, it seemed he was a GOP. What do others think?
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I saw Heatley play some valuable games for the Saints. He wasn't a big overhead mark as he wasn't a big statured player. Most of his marks were taken on the lead as he did have some pace. His kicking for goal was first class. At the time I thought he was close to our best option as a FF but for some reason not evident to me Tim Watson thought otherwise. A GOP in my view who deserved greater opportunity in his final season. From memory I don't think he got an opportunity after about a third of the way through the season.markinUSA wrote:Just a question - In 1997 in particular, I really liked Jason Heatley. I remember him winning games for us from full forward. But it became apparent over time that he had trouble marking overhead, or at least that's the conventional wisdom... so his role in the team was phased out. Would you say he was a GOP? I thought much higher than that in 1997, but by the end of his time with us, it seemed he was a GOP. What do others think?
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