Pick, 1,2 and 4

Batnoe · Post: # 668869Post **Batnoe** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:12am

How did we end up with all of those picks in the year 2000?

I know we used pick 1 and 2 on Roo and Kozi and we traded pick 4 to Carlton for Hamill

Did we trade to get pick 4 or did we have this already... am in thinking in the right years?

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:16am

We got pick 4 from Port in return for Daryl Wakelin

Batnoe · Post: # 668873Post **Batnoe** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:18am

so did we delist shane wakelin then?

I had heard we just released them without compensation, but we really got compensated for him

SENsei · Post: # 668874Post **SENsei** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:19am

We delisted Shane for no compensation. Blight thought he wouldn't recover from an achilles and golden staff infection.

Darryl was traded to Port for pick 4 which was on-traded to Carlton with Sam Cranage for Aaron Hamill. Carlton then used pick 4 on Luke Livingston.

mick13 · Post: # 668875Post **mick13** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:20am

Wow, I didn't realise Wakelin was worth that much... Only superstars would get traded for pick 4 nowadays...

I think we won out of that trade with Carlton, even though Hamill didn't play much.

Solar · Post: # 668876Post **Solar** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:20am

Batnoe wrote:so did we delist shane wakelin then?

I had heard we just released them without compensation, but we really got compensated for him

shane had an achilles problem and in the view of the club he would struggle to come back

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:22am

Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...

Batnoe · Post: # 668881Post **Batnoe** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:30am

i dont think we lost out on the Gehrig trade, he was dual coleman medalist

they're hard to find

i think the 16 teams that didnt pick up Kerr with their pick lost out, If Kerr was picked up at number, 3 ,5, 6 7 or anywhere up to pick 18 we wouldnt have had him in which case WC could have picked up a dud and we would have won it in

So if we traded a player for pick 80 and that pick 80 ended up being a star do we miss out? not really, the other 79 picks didnt think they were worth that

The Saintsational Man · Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:45am

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...

You have to be kidding?

Fraser Gehrig was fantastic for us, had we not had him in '04 & '05, we wouldn't have stood a chance like we did.

He booted 103 and 78 goals respectively in those years.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:48am

The Saintsational Man wrote:
Fraser Gehrig was fantastic for us, had we not had him in '04 & '05, we wouldn't have stood a chance like we did.

He booted 103 and 78 goals respectively in those years.

Sorry... did we win premierships in those years?? I must have missed them!

mick13 · Post: # 668890Post **mick13** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 11:53am

I dont think Kerr would have won us a flag if we had him instead of Gehrig...

Raven · Post: # 668893Post **Raven** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 12:01pm

Who did Carlton pick with our pick 4, just out of interest?

SENsei · Post: # 668896Post **SENsei** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 12:02pm

Luke Livingston, as I mentioned above.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:18pm

mick13 wrote:I dont think Kerr would have won us a flag if we had him instead of Gehrig...

I agree, but we would still have him wouldnt we?

Cro · Post: # 668924Post **Cro** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:25pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
mick13 wrote:I dont think Kerr would have won us a flag if we had him instead of Gehrig...
I agree, but we would still have him wouldnt we?

How the hell would we know? He's still playing, sure, but there's no guarantees that would be with us.

What's done is done, Frase was a great player for us, any of the other teams could have Kerr, so it's pretty pointless.

Little Dozer · Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:26pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...

What a stupid post! Siera was a battler at best and FG was fantastic for us. Full credit to West Coast on picking Kerr but that trade was a win for St Kilda no doubt about it.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:35pm

Little Dozer wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...
What a stupid post! Siera was a battler at best and FG was fantastic for us. Full credit to West Coast on picking Kerr but that trade was a win for St Kilda no doubt about it.

Premierships since 2000...

West Coast (Without Gehrig and with Kerr) - 1
St Kilda (With Gehrig and without Kerr) - ZIP!!!

Armoooo · Post: # 668936Post **Armoooo** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:39pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Little Dozer wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...
What a stupid post! Siera was a battler at best and FG was fantastic for us. Full credit to West Coast on picking Kerr but that trade was a win for St Kilda no doubt about it.
Premierships since 2000...

West Coast (Without Gehrig and with Kerr) - 1
St Kilda (With Gehrig and without Kerr) - ZIP!!!

Rofl, some of the biggest load of crap I've ever read on this site...

Do you know why every other team missed out on Kerr? Because West Coast hid him, it's pretty well known that Kerr tanked his U/18 carnival...

As for Kerr getting us a flag, would we have also gotten Cox, Judd, Cousins and Glass if we hadn't have traded for Gehrig?

FFS, get a clue...

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:42pm

Armoooo wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Little Dozer wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Also that year we traded Daivd Sierakowski and pick #18 for Fraser Gehrig. West Coast used pick #18 on Daniel Kerr!

Lost out big time there didnt we...
What a stupid post! Siera was a battler at best and FG was fantastic for us. Full credit to West Coast on picking Kerr but that trade was a win for St Kilda no doubt about it.
Premierships since 2000...

West Coast (Without Gehrig and with Kerr) - 1
St Kilda (With Gehrig and without Kerr) - ZIP!!!

Rofl, some of the biggest load of crap I've ever read on this site...

Do you know why every other team missed out on Kerr? Because West Coast hid him, it's pretty well known that Kerr tanked his U/18 carnival...

As for Kerr getting us a flag, would we have also gotten Cox, Judd, Cousins and Glass if we hadn't have traded for Gehrig?

FFS, get a clue...

Geez... I LOVE stirring you guys up!!! Keep up those passionate responses!!

Cant wait till I get started on NDS...

Armoooo · Post: # 668941Post **Armoooo** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:46pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote: Geez... I LOVE stirring you guys up!!! Keep up those passionate responses!!

Cant wait till I get started on NDS...

Lol, thank god you were just taking the piss

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 1:54pm

Armoooo wrote: Lol, thank god you were just taking the piss

Mate, it's my favourite sport (after AFL of course)

Spinner · Post: # 669051Post **Spinner** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 5:24pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
The Saintsational Man wrote:
Fraser Gehrig was fantastic for us, had we not had him in '04 & '05, we wouldn't have stood a chance like we did.

He booted 103 and 78 goals respectively in those years.
Sorry... did we win premierships in those years?? I must have missed them!

What a stupid post.

.......So your analogy concludes that we would have won premierships had we held onto pick 18......most probably picked Kerr......and that would have delivered us a better results in 2004/05.....

Tosser Alert!

Spinner · Post: # 669052Post **Spinner** » Thu 30 Oct 2008 5:26pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Armoooo wrote: Lol, thank god you were just taking the piss
Mate, it's my favourite sport (after AFL of course)

Haha, the 'Ã¯m only joking' card once everyone publically states how moronic and pathetic your original comments and thoughts were.....

...gotta love bailing out of a sinking s*** hey.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 30 Oct 2008 5:33pm

Spinner wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Armoooo wrote: Lol, thank god you were just taking the piss
Mate, it's my favourite sport (after AFL of course)
Haha, the 'Ã¯m only joking' card once everyone publically states how moronic and pathetic your original comments and thoughts were.....

...gotta love bailing out of a sinking s*** hey.

Lighten up buddy... You're sounding like a tosser yourself!

saintspremiers · Thu 30 Oct 2008 8:07pm

mick13 wrote:Wow, I didn't realise Wakelin was worth that much... Only superstars would get traded for pick 4 nowadays...

I think we won out of that trade with Carlton, even though Hamill didn't play much.

nah, Hamill didn't play much in his last 2 contracted seasons, but played a lazy 100 odd games for us before his knee was rooted.

BUT Sam Cranage was a SUPERSTAR, just no one seemed to believe in him

....and as for Luke Livingston, well, he's another Juddy aint he?

Sorry beggar boys....time I stop now before I have too much fun!!!