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Both of who are not week-in week-out FB or CHBs.vacuous space wrote:
Plus we've got Raph Clarke and Jimmy Gwilt,.
Don't totally agree with that. Clarkson came in when Hawks were sh1t. RL has a possible contender. Different stages of development IMO.St Fidelius wrote:To me this is a sign of a coach not having enough confidence in himself or the team in general.borderbarry wrote:If we take him, we would have taken more players from AFL clubs than kids in the draft this year.
The hawks coach, Clarkson, was much more bolder in his approach in recruiting, yes he picked up a couple of players that have previously played at other AFL clubs but not as much as we will if we secure the extra three next year
Can't argue with that, Ben Holland is the worst AFL footballer I have ever seen. How he ever got to play AFL is beyond me. Probably because his brother could play.Animal Enclosure wrote:At Carroll's defence it was Ben Holland that he decked! Probably quite a popular bloke at Melbourne as a result.Sobraz wrote:[
HE PUNCHES HIS OWN TEAMMATES OUT IN PUBLIC!!....
An absolute moron of the highest order...
Didn't miss it at all - but I'm fine with Blake at FB and Fisher at CHB in the circumstance where Hudghton and Maguire are unavailable. I value the list spot far more than the contingency. The big problem we'd still have under the circumstance is that Fisher is better defensively than Carroll in most situations (Carroll has the edge on shutting down leads) anyway, so we're not really that much better off trying to swap a matchup for Carroll than for whatever other warm body we can come up with.saintsRrising wrote:I think you missed the part where I said that it is desirable to be able keep S Fisher free to be an attacking player rather than tied down asa CHB or FB.BAM! (shhhh) wrote: As well as Max Hudghton, even if Matt Maguire never played another game, we've got Jason Blake, and we've got Sam Fisher established as being able to handle the defensive side. That's 3-4.
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If Max is out injured and Maguire fails to come back ok....then in your scenario Blake is FB and S Fisher CHB.
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Thanks oh wise one...saintsRrising wrote:Most players invited to train with clubs do not actually get picked up...
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
And we all know what a flowerwit Holland is - deserves to be punched. Just ask his girlfriend.Animal Enclosure wrote:At Carroll's defence it was Ben Holland that he decked! Probably quite a popular bloke at Melbourne as a result.Sobraz wrote:[
HE PUNCHES HIS OWN TEAMMATES OUT IN PUBLIC!!....
An absolute moron of the highest order...
Now that is a great reason to hit him then. On that system in the 80's at the Saints alll we would have been doing is hitting each other.Bernard Shakey wrote:Can't argue with that, Ben Holland is the worst AFL footballer I have ever seen. How he ever got to play AFL is beyond me. Probably because his brother could play.Animal Enclosure wrote:At Carroll's defence it was Ben Holland that he decked! Probably quite a popular bloke at Melbourne as a result.Sobraz wrote:[
HE PUNCHES HIS OWN TEAMMATES OUT IN PUBLIC!!....
An absolute moron of the highest order...
Animal Enclosure wrote:At Carroll's defence it was Ben Holland that he decked! Probably quite a popular bloke at Melbourne as a result.Sobraz wrote:[
HE PUNCHES HIS OWN TEAMMATES OUT IN PUBLIC!!....
An absolute moron of the highest order...
yeah. i reckon he gets bonus points for punching ben holland. of all the blokes that deserves it... Since I was suggesting they were options if all of Max Hudghton, Jason Blake, Matt Maguire, Sam Fisher and Sam Gilbert go down, I fail to see your point.saintsRrising wrote:Both of who are not week-in week-out FB or CHBs.vacuous space wrote:
Plus we've got Raph Clarke and Jimmy Gwilt,.
Then why "oh you can only say it one" did you repeat yourself THREE times??St Fidelius wrote:Thanks oh wise one...saintsRrising wrote:Most players invited to train with clubs do not actually get picked up...
I've already mentioned that about three times...
But I guess it may look better coming from you
Yes I understand your view that they can be options.vacuous space wrote:Since I was suggesting they were options if all of Max Hudghton, Jason Blake, Matt Maguire, Sam Fisher and Sam Gilbert go down, I fail to see your point.saintsRrising wrote:Both of who are not week-in week-out FB or CHBs.vacuous space wrote:
Plus we've got Raph Clarke and Jimmy Gwilt,.
i'd be looking at both the clarkes, particularly raph, to spend more time in the midfield. he showed a bit of ball magnet ability in the last part of the season.saintsRrising wrote:our super midfield is short of talent to match the Cats and Hawks.
How many do you need? Most teams only carry two tall forwards. We've got five legitimite tall defenders. We've got at least another three or four guys who can play there if needed. I don't see a need for any type of defender on our list. I'd be more than happy to add a quality defender, but since when is Nathan Carroll a quality defender?saintsRrising wrote:Howevert IMO I would not want to rely on either Raph or Gwilt to play FB or CHB .....and so hence would like another option than what is at the club to play FB or CHB if required.
I recall at the time I was prepared to give MG another go because he seemed to have some sort of remorse. He wanted to make a new start and he genuinely seemed regretful.linz wrote:No I think we could cope with Cousins also. Trouble is maybe Carroll has NO EXCUSES. He maybe is just bad. (but I hope not)Iceman234 wrote:Gardiner OKlinz wrote:Gardiner (OK) + Cousins (Uhm OK) + Carroll (sorry no way)
