Time To Dust off The Number 4

[esaint66]

I think they will give the number 4 to a player who is ready for the next stp and will be playing a lot of AFL footy this year rather than reserves, i think CJ is ready for that.

If we get Cousins he will follow in his former West Coast counterpart Fraser Gehrig and take the number 9.

[Bernard Shakey]

Give number 4 to our 4th pick.

[avid]

I like Eddy, but he certainly hasn't proved himself. (Watching him in the finals I got the feeling he wasn't going to make it at all.)
CJ -- terrific trier, but he's never going to be good enough for No.4
Armo -- way off proving himself.
Raph. A season like he played the last few games, and he'd qualify.

To me the only real No 4 is Bally. 14 just isn't a St Kilda icon number. He'd be following in Pluggers footsteps too, from 14 to 4.

Or leave it vacant until our next ultra-loyal Ultra-Star emerges.

[Con Gorozidis]

raph & Cj????

um.. this is the weirdest post i have read in ages. just weird. keep 4 for a real freak. doc and plugger arent just saints stars. they are all time afl legends. FFS.

[Schillaci]

this is the weirdest post i have read in ages. just weird. keep 4 for a real freak. doc and plugger arent just saints stars. they are all team afl legends. FFS.

My sentiments too.

[Enrico_Misso]

Am I right in thinking no Saints player (in the last 25 years anyway) has had more jumper numbers than Frankie Peckett. Started in 52, then 29, then 8, then finished in 1.

Interesting. Cant actually recall Frankie wearing 8

Craig Devonport wore 8 and 1

Burkie went from 52 to 29 to 3

Is my memory going??? lol

Only 3 players have had four numbers in "recent" memory.

Frankie - 53, 29, 8, 1
Barry Breen - 44, 27, 17, 4
And the legendary Grant Thomas - 45, 30, 40, 18

[Enrico_Misso]

Did "Rodney" wear 52 before getting 35?

Yes
In his first year.

[Enrico_Misso]

That would be akin to giving Stephen Newport #1 after Barks retired!

Disgraceful decision.
Particularly on a dud like Newport.

Some numbers are sacred.
At our club they are (at least)
- 1, 4, 5, 10, 12, 23, 35

These numbers should be earned, not just allocated.
And if no-one is good enough to wear them in the spirit of the names who made them famous - then don't allocate them.
And 35 should be mothballed for at least a few years.

Must be about time we ressurected the famous number 60 as worn by Robert Mace !

[SENsei]

Must be about time we ressurected the famous number 60 as worn by Robert Mace !

And Nicky Winmar!

[Enrico_Misso]

Must be about time we ressurected the famous number 60 as worn by Robert Mace !

And Nicky Winmar!

Correct, but not officially.
And I probably should add "7" to the list of sacred numbers as well !

1, 4, 5, 7, 10, 12, 23, 35

Also worn by Stewie Trott.

[bozza1980]

I still can't understand why people are jumping the gun on Raph...

Sure - he played a few good games at the end of the season, but why does this outweigh the number of terrible games he's played?

Because I think that he has turned a corner rather than "fluked" a couple of good games.

[Bernard Shakey]

Stephen Theodore really made 23 his own.

[Mr Magic]

Must be about time we ressurected the famous number 60 as worn by Robert Mace !

And Nicky Winmar!

Correct, but not officially.
And I probably should add "7" to the list of sacred numbers as well !

1, 4, 5, 7, 10, 12, 23, 35

Also worn by Stewie Trott.

And what is wrong with the numbers 2, 3, 8, 9, 11?

What constitutes a sacred number?
#2 worn by Hammil, Frawley, Mynott, Sidebottom?
#3 worn by Burke, Krakouer, Ross Smith
#8 worn by Max, Glen Elliot, Alan Morrow
#9 worn by G-Train, John McIntosh, Ian Synman
#11 worn by Greg Burns

What makes #12 sacred?
Because it is Roo's and was worn by Colling?
Why not #26?
Afterall its now worn by Dal and was once worn by John Manzie.

I don't understand what makes a junper # sacred?

[Otiman]

I like Eddy, but he certainly hasn't proved himself.

Has played more games this year than any other saint drafted in the same year as him.

[esaint66]

I like Eddy, but he certainly hasn't proved himself.

Has played more games this year than any other saint drafted in the same year as him.

Yes, but has he left an undieing impression on many of our minds ?
IMO he has been good, but not great.

[big_mac_evoy5]

i think it should go to allen they rate him as high as armo if not higher at the club they want him to be full forward number 4 might do him some good. otherwise ball should do the lockett from 14 to 4. but locket won a brownlow with 14 lol i am rambling lol woop sss

[Gabba]

this is the weirdest post i have read in ages. just weird. keep 4 for a real freak. doc and plugger arent just saints stars. they are all team afl legends. FFS.

Don't forget Breen, 300 games and the best point in VFL/AFL history

[plugger66]

Must be about time we ressurected the famous number 60 as worn by Robert Mace !

And Nicky Winmar!

Correct, but not officially.
And I probably should add "7" to the list of sacred numbers as well !

1, 4, 5, 7, 10, 12, 23, 35

Also worn by Stewie Trott.

And what is wrong with the numbers 2, 3, 8, 9, 11?

What constitutes a sacred number?
#2 worn by Hammil, Frawley, Mynott, Sidebottom?
#3 worn by Burke, Krakouer, Ross Smith
#8 worn by Max, Glen Elliot, Alan Morrow
#9 worn by G-Train, John McIntosh, Ian Synman
#11 worn by Greg Burns

What makes #12 sacred?
Because it is Roo's and was worn by Colling?
Why not #26?
Afterall its now worn by Dal and was once worn by John Manzie.

I don't understand what makes a junper # sacred?

Sensible post. Its a number who cares bad players get them good players get them.

[Enrico_Misso]

And what is wrong with the numbers 2, 3, 8, 9, 11?

What constitutes a sacred number?
#2 worn by Hammil, Frawley, Mynott, Sidebottom?
#3 worn by Burke, Krakouer, Ross Smith
#8 worn by Max, Glen Elliot, Alan Morrow
#9 worn by G-Train, John McIntosh, Ian Synman
#11 worn by Greg Burns

What makes #12 sacred?
Because it is Roo's and was worn by Colling?
Why not #26?
Afterall its now worn by Dal and was once worn by John Manzie.

I don't understand what makes a junper # sacred?

There are some good names there.
But don't agree that they are superstars.

I think numbers 1 and 4 and possibly 35
are EXTRA special and should not be given out lightly.

ie to wear those numbers you need to be a budding champion
as opposed to a Stephen Newport or a Craig Devonport
or a Paul Morwood.

Agree that you can only quarantine so many numbers.
So I'll stick with 1, 4 and 35.
Whilst I still believe 5, 7, 10, 12, 23 are special.
More special than 2, 3, 8, 9, 11 (though perhaps 3 should go to my special list).


But 1, 4, 35 are numbers that speak for themselves.
And I believe players need to EARN them.

[Eastern]

We have had 3 players in our entire history who have played 300+ games. Their numbers should be held in the highest regard and used as psychological shots in the arm for potential future champs of our club !!

[chook23]

We have had 3 players in our entire history who have played 300+ games. Their numbers should be held in the highest regard and used as psychological shots in the arm for potential future champs of our club !!

who are you leaving out Breen or Burke??

[Eastern]

We have had 4 players in our entire history who have played 300+ games. Their numbers should be held in the highest regard and used as psychological shots in the arm for potential future champs of our club !!

who are you leaving out Breen or Burke??

Neither !!

[bigcarl]

My choice is Raph Clarke. He has now shown the skills, pace and confidence that the many people have spoken about, but not many of us fans had seen. his last 6 weeks of the 2008 season were fantastic.

congratulations to him on winning "most promising" at the b&f last night.

it's a great achievement considering what he's been through ... the epilepsy, his father's health and the merciless hammering he received on here.

of all the young candidates, armitage, eddy etc, raph seems the most worthy of no 4.

unless you give it to someone more established like bj or fisher.

[True Blue Sainter]

I like Eddy, but he certainly hasn't proved himself.

Has played more games this year than any other saint drafted in the same year as him.

What about Jones?

[Ralphy]

My choice is Raph Clarke. He has now shown the skills, pace and confidence that the many people have spoken about, but not many of us fans had seen. his last 6 weeks of the 2008 season were fantastic.

congratulations to him on winning "most promising" at the b&f last night.

it's a great achievement considering what he's been through ... the epilepsy, his father's health and the merciless hammering he received on here.

of all the young candidates, armitage, eddy etc, raph seems the most worthy of no 4.

unless you give it to someone more established like bj or fisher.

bj already has cowboys