J. Koschitzke

RodKeoghsLoveChild · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:21am

Cya later son.

Trade bait while he still has a shred of credibility left.

The guy delivers absolutely nothing and can't kick a goal when we need him most. Injuries, constistancy..the list goes on.

He was ordinary last week and even worse this week. The guy lacks mental toughness.

st.byron · Post: # 649516Post **st.byron** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:22am

RodKeoghsLoveChild wrote:Cya later son.

Trade bait while he still has a shred of credibility left.

The guy delivers absolutely nothing and can't kick a goal when we need him most. Injuries, constistancy..the list goes on.

He was ordinary last week and even worse this week. The guy lacks mental toughness.

bit too soon for finger pointing I reckon. He was one of many below par tonight.

RodKeoghsLoveChild · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:26am

Finger pointing?? The guy has been below par his entire career. Save for a few awesome performances when he was made captain back in 05 i think the guy has been a huge problem with consistancy. The guy is overrated and overpaid.

The guy could not nail a goal from 2 meters out directly infront if his life depended on it.

st.byron · Post: # 649548Post **st.byron** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:29am

RodKeoghsLoveChild wrote:Finger pointing?? The guy has been below par his entire career. Save for a few awesome performances when he was made captain back in 05 i think the guy has been a huge problem with consistancy. The guy is overrated and overpaid.

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agree with you. Consistently sub-par. Just making the point that he wasn't alone tonight.

The_Dud · Post: # 649554Post **The_Dud** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:30am

maybe everyone should just lower their expectations of him

The_Merchant · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:31am

There are quite a few blokes on the list who have to go before Justin Koschitzke. I think you need to look at the midfield before getting too critical of the forward line. There were a few blokes who put in shockers tonight.

plugger66 · Post: # 649561Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:31am

The_Dud wrote:maybe everyone should just lower their expectations of him

Only if his wage drops otherwise he has to perform.

The_Dud · Post: # 649565Post **The_Dud** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:32am

plugger66 wrote:
The_Dud wrote:maybe everyone should just lower their expectations of him
Only if his wage drops otherwise he has to perform.

and what is his wage?

WayneJudson42 · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:33am

plugger66 wrote:
The_Dud wrote:maybe everyone should just lower their expectations of him
Only if his wage drops otherwise he has to perform.

Agree. We should lower our expectations and accept he's a GOP... but we must delist other GOP whoes names don't begin with Kosi, right?

RodKeoghsLoveChild · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:34am

Sorry St Byron. Probably more than anyone this guy really gives me the runs. He has the ability to rip a game apart and for what ever reason he just never delivers when we really need him to stand up.

I know Milney missed a few in the first term that he would normaly nail, but again, that is the issue. Kossie seems to always miss those bloody 25 meter or even closer straight infront shots and its soul destroying for the players and fans alike.

plugger66 · Post: # 649570Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:34am

The_Dud wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
The_Dud wrote:maybe everyone should just lower their expectations of him
Only if his wage drops otherwise he has to perform.
and what is his wage?

Wouldnt have a clue but do you think he would be getting 100k a year because that is how he is playing.

Brooksy_Babe_24 · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:34am

i can not believe Kosi and Dal have been singled out again.
Like Roo Kosi tried VERY HARD TONIGHT.

LEAVE HIM THE f*** ALONE

st.byron · Post: # 649581Post **st.byron** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:36am

RodKeoghsLoveChild wrote:Sorry St Byron. Probably more than anyone this guy really gives me the runs. He has the ability to rip a game apart and for what ever reason he just never delivers when we really need him to stand up.

I know Milney missed a few in the first term that he would normaly nail, but again, that is the issue. Kossie seems to always miss those bloody 25 meter or even closer straight infront shots and its soul destroying for the players and fans alike.

yeh mate I agree. Seriously inconsistent. His kicking is average. Struggling to be a GOP IMO.

Spinner · Post: # 649582Post **Spinner** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:36am

Brooksy_Babe_24 wrote:i can not believe Kosi and Dal have been singled out again.
Like Roo Kosi tried VERY HARD TONIGHT.

LEAVE HIM THE f*** ALONE

I suggest watching the game before defending performances....

Some of the players were very poor tonight.

WayneJudson42 · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:36am

Brooksy_Babe_24 wrote:i can not believe Kosi and Dal have been singled out again.
Like Roo Kosi tried VERY HARD TONIGHT.

LEAVE HIM THE f*** ALONE

Trying and ability are 2 seperate issues. Let's not let emotion get in the way. We had lots of triers tonight, who aren't up to it.

st.byron · Post: # 649597Post **st.byron** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:39am

Brooksy_Babe_24 wrote:i can not believe Kosi and Dal have been singled out again.
Like Roo Kosi tried VERY HARD TONIGHT.

LEAVE HIM THE f*** ALONE

trying hard isn't enough. You can be as soft on him as you like. He doesn't earn his keep.

Unforgiven · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:40am

I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.

plugger66 · Post: # 649601Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:40am

Saint Corin wrote:I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.

Kosi isnt and will never be a FF.

The_Merchant · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:42am

There is no way he was our worst player tonight, and there is no way we should get rid of him. Perhaps he shouldn't be our "Go to player" but he is still worth a spot on the list.

WayneJudson42 · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:42am

plugger66 wrote:
Saint Corin wrote:I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.
Kosi isnt and will never be a FF.

Agree. Not sure what to do with him. Hawks supporters reckon Boyle goes alright.

Kosi was average in the ruck tonight. If we keep him, you might as well muscle him up and et some aggression into him. Does SFA otherwise.

Unforgiven · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:43am

plugger66 wrote:
Saint Corin wrote:I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.
Kosi isnt and will never be a FF.

Well at the moment Kosi isn't and never well be.... anything. What is your suggestion? I don't think ruck, he doesn't do much with his hit outs, gives away too many free kicks. What's your input?

The_Merchant · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:44am

WayneJudson42 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Saint Corin wrote:I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.
Kosi isnt and will never be a FF.
Agree. Not sure what to do with him. Hawks supporters reckon Boyle goes alright.

Kosi was average in the ruck tonight.

I still reckon Boyle is the best forward in the Hawks side. Before he got injured last year, he was dominating.

bigred · Post: # 649635Post **bigred** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:46am

Terrible performance from Kosi tonight.

I dont think he has been fit for most of the year. Or even close to it.

That said, saying that he "tried hard" is absolutely laughable.

He is overpaid.

And he freaken well owes this club something.

His career is on the skids make no mistake.

WayneJudson42 · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:54am

The_Merchant wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Saint Corin wrote:I think Kosi should be at FF as well. Roo playing 30m from goal and outwards, and half a high running half forward in the mould of charlie gardiners playing style (how he played in NAB cup).

Get a second ruckman or big Benny Mac to back up Kingy. Kosi can Crash packs, make contests, and at least take a defender away from Roo. Roo 30m from goal can at least run, what he does best and do his thing.
Kosi isnt and will never be a FF.
Agree. Not sure what to do with him. Hawks supporters reckon Boyle goes alright.

Kosi was average in the ruck tonight.
I still reckon Boyle is the best forward in the Hawks side. Before he got injured last year, he was dominating.

They were big wrps for him.. Just unlucky coz of Buddy and Ruffhead

MasonCJ2 · Post: # 649688Post **MasonCJ2** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 1:02am

Have said it since the beginning but he is too big to play anywhere but ruck. Appreciate that he won't be the best at the centre, but he needs to get some consistent and longer period in the ruck. I knew that he would finish up with an Ottens reputation. Surprise, surprise about Ottens and his move to the Ruck on a more permanent basis and how he is now viewed. He hasn't performed, but I'm willing to stick with him because I know what will happen if he's traded!!

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