How many players have Debuted in a final?

Otiman · Post: # 635951Post **Otiman** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 7:43pm

With Jack Steven being picked as an in this week, there is a chance, through selection or as an emergency through injury, that he will play his first game as a final.

Who else has done this? I think Gwilt played his 2nd game in a final. No others come to mind.

3rd generation saint · Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:19pm

Maybe not for us but I'm pretty sure one Dermot Brereton did.

saintm · Post: # 635983Post **saintm** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:24pm

3rd generation saint wrote:Maybe not for us but I'm pretty sure one Dermot Brereton did.

Was going to say that but had a quick search around and couldn't find anything to confirm it - I still think it's correct, though!!

Winmar7Fan · Post: # 635985Post **Winmar7Fan** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:24pm

3rd generation saint wrote:Maybe not for us but I'm pretty sure one Dermot Brereton did.

S--t where did you pull that one out from? If your right I'm impressed.

Solar · Post: # 635988Post **Solar** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:25pm

Winmar7Fan wrote:
3rd generation saint wrote:Maybe not for us but I'm pretty sure one Dermot Brereton did.
S--t where did you pull that one out from? If your right I'm impressed.

semi final I believe?

imagine if jack could do that and also join the goal from first kick club!

3rd generation saint · Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:28pm

I remember it, also remember when they interviewed him, he was a cocky S.O.B. saying that the defender he was going to play should worry more about him than he about the defender.

older saint · Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:29pm

Brereton defintely did , did well too

Mr Magic · Post: # 636001Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:36pm

older saint wrote:Brereton defintely did , did well too

Debuted 1982 VFL 1st Semi-Final.

Behind Play · Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:42pm

They were talking about this on SEN last week and I think the count was 23

saintsRrising · Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:42pm

I think that if they wanted to play Steven in a final that they would have already given him a game..

Selection is most likely an encouragement award.

howlinwolf · Post: # 636011Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:47pm

I could be wrong (correct me if I am) but wouldn't the most famous of the finals' debutants be Ted Hopkins for Carlton ?

Didn't he kick 4 goals to beat Collingwood in a GF ? And then never be heard from again ?

LTN16 · Post: # 636016Post **LTN16** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:54pm

saintsRrising wrote:I think that if they wanted to play Steven in a final that they would have already given him a game..

Selection is most likely an encouragement award.

Agree

perfectionist · Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:14pm

howlinwolf wrote:I could be wrong (correct me if I am) but wouldn't the most famous of the finals' debutants be Ted Hopkins for Carlton ?

Didn't he kick 4 goals to beat Collingwood in a GF ? And then never be heard from again ?

He played 29 games for Carlton, 20 of them, in fact, in 1970. So, he wasn't a debutante. He only played one more game after the 1970 GF.

Iceman234 · Post: # 636036Post **Iceman234** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:18pm

Reasonable debut by Derm.

Sobraz · Post: # 636037Post **Sobraz** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:18pm

Richard Hadley for Brissy??... I know the Premiership win was only his 2nd or 3rd game, not sure if the finals leading upto it was his first....

maverick · Post: # 636039Post **maverick** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:24pm

LTN16 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:I think that if they wanted to play Steven in a final that they would have already given him a game..

Selection is most likely an encouragement award.
Agree

I agree too, however, I feel warm and fuzzy about a Steven debut in this game, not sure why, have only seen the kid play in a NAB Cup game....

Think Eddy is OK, just might not be going quite well enough to keep his spot ideally, probably Steven is not the right replacement, maybe Mini isn't either, maybe Eddy can play a defensive role, he's on the edge.....

TimeToShineFellas · Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:24pm

Bill James of Richmond played in a premiership team on his debut in 1920.

TimeToShineFellas · Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:47pm

If Jack Steven debuts and does exactly what he did last time in the pre-season when we played Geelong, he will have cult status for life!

bigcarl · Post: # 636056Post **bigcarl** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:48pm

Iceman234 wrote:Reasonable debut by Derm.

some nice "heavy work" by lethal in that clip. do we have anyone able to dish out a bit of pain?

CURLY · Post: # 636060Post **CURLY** » Thu 04 Sep 2008 9:53pm

Paul Spargo 1985 was the last while Travis Payze 1965 I think was the one and only Saints player to do so.

Snakeman66 · Thu 04 Sep 2008 10:43pm

Mr Magic wrote:
older saint wrote:Brereton defintely did , did well too
Debuted 1982 VFL 1st Semi-Final.

Debut in the VFL 1st semi final of 1982: Booted 5 goals that day in a near best afield performance.

The Sainter · Thu 04 Sep 2008 10:49pm

If my memory is ok i think Len Thompson debuted for Collingwood in a final many years ago and played a top game.

howlinwolf · Thu 04 Sep 2008 11:18pm

howlinwolf wrote:
I could be wrong (correct me if I am) but wouldn't the most famous of the finals' debutants be Ted Hopkins for Carlton ?

Didn't he kick 4 goals to beat Collingwood in a GF ? And then never be heard from again ?

He played 29 games for Carlton, 20 of them, in fact, in 1970. So, he wasn't a debutante. He only played one more game after the 1970 GF.

Thanks Perfectionist. I had the feeling I wasn't quite on the mark there.
You've got a memory like an elephant

I'm envious of the finals you've seen too

Moccha · Post: # 636154Post **Moccha** » Fri 05 Sep 2008 2:03am

Rene Kink for Collingwood, I think against the Saints

saint66au · Post: # 636177Post **saint66au** » Fri 05 Sep 2008 8:08am

there was another Collingwood player in the late 70's i think who kicked 4 or 5 from a HFF debuting in a final..

Not quite the same..but didnt Mark McGough win the BOG on Anzac day in his first game?