Geelong taunts Saints over list
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Geelong taunts Saints over list
He conveniently forgot about their captain being from Port Adelaide, Mooney from Geelong, Ottens from Richmond, and both Abletts who were picked up on the father - son rule from a Hawthorn recruit.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/g ... 35270.html
GEELONG coach Mark Thompson has fired the opening salvo ahead of Sunday's first qualifying final against St Kilda, saying the clubs have different philosophies about list management.
The comments came as St Kilda coach Ross Lyon revealed that classy midfielder Luke Ball would not return from his hamstring injury for the encounter after a hiccup in his rehabilitation this week.
Thompson said the Saints had enjoyed a great year in Lyon's second season in charge, but relied on players from other clubs to still be alive in September.
Former Cats skipper Steven King was picked up by the Saints after last year's premiership, joining former teammate Charlie Gardiner at Moorabbin.
"Under Grant (Thomas), they were really a development club," Thompson said.
"Under Ross, they've got a few guys from other clubs, two from our club, and have done particularly well. It's different philosophies, but we generally like to recruit and develop our own people."
As well as King and Gardiner, the Saints have recycled five other players who played more than 50 AFL games before crossing to Moorabbin.
Lyon stepped around Thompson's comment, saying there are "plenty of different ways to bake the cake" and the Saints have thrived by picking up players from other clubs.
"We're thrilled with the way we've put our list together, and that's continuing and evolving," he said.
"We'll continue to take draft picks and continue to analyse players from other clubs and — when we see fit — we'll bring them to our club and grow them."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/g ... 35270.html
GEELONG coach Mark Thompson has fired the opening salvo ahead of Sunday's first qualifying final against St Kilda, saying the clubs have different philosophies about list management.
The comments came as St Kilda coach Ross Lyon revealed that classy midfielder Luke Ball would not return from his hamstring injury for the encounter after a hiccup in his rehabilitation this week.
Thompson said the Saints had enjoyed a great year in Lyon's second season in charge, but relied on players from other clubs to still be alive in September.
Former Cats skipper Steven King was picked up by the Saints after last year's premiership, joining former teammate Charlie Gardiner at Moorabbin.
"Under Grant (Thomas), they were really a development club," Thompson said.
"Under Ross, they've got a few guys from other clubs, two from our club, and have done particularly well. It's different philosophies, but we generally like to recruit and develop our own people."
As well as King and Gardiner, the Saints have recycled five other players who played more than 50 AFL games before crossing to Moorabbin.
Lyon stepped around Thompson's comment, saying there are "plenty of different ways to bake the cake" and the Saints have thrived by picking up players from other clubs.
"We're thrilled with the way we've put our list together, and that's continuing and evolving," he said.
"We'll continue to take draft picks and continue to analyse players from other clubs and — when we see fit — we'll bring them to our club and grow them."
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Most of the players that RL got in are those that GT did not rate
Cant blame RL for getting what he thinks he needs in the first year at the club, you cant develope your own players in 5 mins.
Easy shot from a bloke that has been around the club for 9 years, most of them in tears.
Good on bomber for what he has done with the club I reckon
Cant wait to see how
he is afetr Kingy carves Ottens up on Sunday
Just worry about your end of the highway and we will worry about our own club, and dont forget bomber every win is getting closer to a LOSS![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Cant blame RL for getting what he thinks he needs in the first year at the club, you cant develope your own players in 5 mins.
Easy shot from a bloke that has been around the club for 9 years, most of them in tears.
Good on bomber for what he has done with the club I reckon
Cant wait to see how
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Just worry about your end of the highway and we will worry about our own club, and dont forget bomber every win is getting closer to a LOSS
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It's true!!!OLB wrote:Agreed.meher baba wrote:His coaching has gone to a whole new level, but he remains a profoundly annoying git!!
"We generally like to develop our own people."Do me a favour.
After they finish playing they send their players off to a 'stud farm' so they can continue bahaving like animals.
On another note,
Do you think they have sent complimentary tickets for this Sunday to Mr & Mrs Horan?
How must they feel walking into Skilled Stadium and seeing Gary Ablett's name honoured so publicly on a grandstand?
Had no idea that this was against the rules of the comp.
IMO it is a valid, and in many ways more sensible way of recruiting (Moneyball anyone?)
What was Rossy going to do? Wait 5 years for a ruckman to develop?
It seems we always get some s*** or other for our recruiting. We apparantley have two million first round draft picks (I got this the other day from a Carlton fan, are you kidding me?) and now this crap. Yet the amount of quality father son players that Geelong have had is to my mind the difference between them and the rest in this otherwise even comp.
And anyway he still looks like a carp.
IMO it is a valid, and in many ways more sensible way of recruiting (Moneyball anyone?)
What was Rossy going to do? Wait 5 years for a ruckman to develop?
It seems we always get some s*** or other for our recruiting. We apparantley have two million first round draft picks (I got this the other day from a Carlton fan, are you kidding me?) and now this crap. Yet the amount of quality father son players that Geelong have had is to my mind the difference between them and the rest in this otherwise even comp.
And anyway he still looks like a carp.
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Re: Geelong taunts Saints over list
I'll bet ross wanted to say there are "plenty of different ways to skin a Cat".my les foote wrote:Lyon stepped around Thompson's comment, saying there are "plenty of different ways to bake the cake"
you watch bummer if he loses in september. those big, black puffy bags will appear under his eyes again.
Re: Geelong taunts Saints over list
That sounds like the unedited for media Ross, wish we could have that personality back in the media.bigcarl wrote:I'll bet ross wanted to say there are "plenty of different ways to skin a Cat".my les foote wrote:Lyon stepped around Thompson's comment, saying there are "plenty of different ways to bake the cake"
you watch bummer if he loses in september. those big, black puffy bags will appear under his eyes again.
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I don't deny him his success. It's just that he's a sour-faced, surly, humourless, charcterless ars*hole.
After the West Coast game, when questioned about his team's performance, he started off by saying 'Look, West Coast don't really have much of a list at the moment, so...'
Now West Coast have struggled. Indeed, their playing group may not be what it once was, but that kind of talk is beyond the pale. It's arrogant, disrespectful and ugly and has no place at the AFL table in my view.
I can't wait until he pri*k falls off his high horse. He disgusts me.
After the West Coast game, when questioned about his team's performance, he started off by saying 'Look, West Coast don't really have much of a list at the moment, so...'
Now West Coast have struggled. Indeed, their playing group may not be what it once was, but that kind of talk is beyond the pale. It's arrogant, disrespectful and ugly and has no place at the AFL table in my view.
I can't wait until he pri*k falls off his high horse. He disgusts me.
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Re: Geelong taunts Saints over list
so we have completed relied on king, schnieder and dempster to get us over the line in tight games??? causing us to sneek into 4th??my les foote wrote:He conveniently forgot about their captain being from Port Adelaide, Mooney from Geelong, Ottens from Richmond, and both Abletts who were picked up on the father - son rule from a Hawthorn recruit.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/g ... 35270.html
GEELONG coach Mark Thompson has fired the opening salvo ahead of Sunday's first qualifying final against St Kilda, saying the clubs have different philosophies about list management.
The comments came as St Kilda coach Ross Lyon revealed that classy midfielder Luke Ball would not return from his hamstring injury for the encounter after a hiccup in his rehabilitation this week.
Thompson said the Saints had enjoyed a great year in Lyon's second season in charge, but relied on players from other clubs to still be alive in September.
Former Cats skipper Steven King was picked up by the Saints after last year's premiership, joining former teammate Charlie Gardiner at Moorabbin.
"Under Grant (Thomas), they were really a development club," Thompson said.
"Under Ross, they've got a few guys from other clubs, two from our club, and have done particularly well. It's different philosophies, but we generally like to recruit and develop our own people."
As well as King and Gardiner, the Saints have recycled five other players who played more than 50 AFL games before crossing to Moorabbin.
Lyon stepped around Thompson's comment, saying there are "plenty of different ways to bake the cake" and the Saints have thrived by picking up players from other clubs.
"We're thrilled with the way we've put our list together, and that's continuing and evolving," he said.
"We'll continue to take draft picks and continue to analyse players from other clubs and — when we see fit — we'll bring them to our club and grow them."
well i guess he does have a point...rooey was developed at southport, kosi country vic somewhere...i guess we dont have the option of picking half a team from geelong
sorry bomber...we fail...so sorry
oh and you won't hear or see ross lyon harp on about other squads...why would he give two s***s???...geelong aren't going to win st kilda the premiership...
"It's a work in progress," Lyon said.
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goodie wrote:A simplistic way of looking at it. I'd say we're just as much of a development club under Ross, given that our rookie list is thriving.
Add to that how much our young fellows would have learned from the experience brought in, eg: Mcevoy and King
shouldn't a club always be developing through???
once it doesnt ala richmond/melbourne one is in deep trouble
"It's a work in progress," Lyon said.
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heck hes the premiership coach who has won 21 games for the year you can expect him to be a cocky s*** in the end all these mind games do is get the fans all fired up the players have their own motovation to go out there and give it their all . comments like that are like water off a ducks back to the players trust me they will know how important and how much of a challange this weeks game is going to be !! we should be happy making 4th spot and not let anyone take away from that we earnt our spot we deserve our spot . secretly i think Geelong are a bit worried we might be pulling it together at the right time this year .... time will tell
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