meher baba wrote:WayneJudson42 wrote:meher baba wrote:
His decision to drop Milne and Dal for a game and, more generally, start selecting the team on form rather than a combination of reputation and his own preconceived (Swans-derived) notions about how an AFL team should look (2 lumbering ruckmen, one main forward target, 3-4 midfield taggers, etc).
Since the first Freo game, I have chosen to stop criticising Lyon's coaching performances.
Does this mean that the decision to replace GT with him in 2006 was the right one? Certainly not!! That decision will remain a stupid and high risk decision no matter how we do over the next month or how many final series Lyon takes us to in the future.
Anyway, let the Lyon supporters on this forum crow all they like. I'm just glad we are winning (7 out of 9!!) and have made the finals. And at least we probably won't have to hear quite so much crap in future about how GT ruined the list because we didn't manage to snare four Brownlow winners with 2x pick 17 and the forced trades of Spider and Heath Black!!
And yet you continue to bore us with the same old drivel.
Still living in the past and hankering for the "good ole days".
Do you know that was Lyon's strategy for a fact, do you? Have you ever considered that the players have taken a while to adapt???
Have you ever been able to look past what happened in 2006?
HAve you ever considered that given we've had some great quaters, that maybe the players were not executing on a regular basis? Were these quaters of footy just an abberation, or the players ignoring RL's instructions to play boring Swans footy?
I gues you never have... nor ever will, because your views are trapped in the rear view mirror of Saints history.
Even yesterday, the Crows jumped us, and we were able to stem the tide.
Dude, you have some serious blinkers on. Which is really sad, coz it stops you from enjoying the moment. GT is gone, get over it.
Bottom line: you want Lyon sacked. Until you can seriously get on here with a truly "objective" view, please refrain. It is becoming extremely boring.
Even if we win the flag... you'll likely come here and claim that it would have happenned anyway under GT, or that GT would have won 2 flags by now.
And if we don't, you'll just keep harping on about the glory days of 2 prelims under GT, and how he should never have been saked.
Sad, very sad.
My agenda has all along been simply to suggest what I think might be best for the club: which I'm entitled to do on this forum, even if you and others don't agree with me. Lyon's coaching was so incredibly inept in the first 18 or so months that I did believe for a while that it would be better to get rid of him immediately and try to limit the damage.
About 2 months ago IMO, he reached the point at which the pros of retaining him outweighed the cons. At this point, I stopped calling for him to go (unlike many others on here, especially after the Pies match). I still don't think he is likely to become the best coach we have ever seen, nor do I believe (although I would be delighted to be proven wrong) that he will be able take us to a premiership as quickly as did his mentor Paul Roos.
I note that you appear to be a member of the "GT is to blame for everything that has gone wrong at St Kilda over the past decade" society. That's your agenda (although, unlike some of your more passionate fellow members of that society, I sense a certain desire to take the piss as well).
Every time you respond to one of my posts, you go for the man rather than the ball. Which, to my way of looking at it, suggests that, deep down inside, you don't feel very confident in what you are saying. A bit more banter and a bit less bluster certainly wouldn't go astray.
Actually I don't blame GT for all our ills TBH. I have never been one to deny his success. Was his sacking the right move? No idea TBH.
Is RL a better coach? No idea TBH.
Maybe it's my background of being an entrepreneur for 22 years, in that I've learnt to keep the faith in tough times rather than react to negative situations.
You see, in life, you have to expect things will go wrong, so you stay focussed on the outcome and prepare to meet the challenges head on.
My point? Regardless of what took place in 06, RL is now our coach and deserves 100% support and loyalty from everyone. He also deserves time to stamp his impramada on the team. Likewise, I prefer to remain patient rather than over react when we lose a game.
I happen to be more otpimistic than you TBH. Why? Because I suspect that my outlook isn't tainted by the same anger and contempt that you seem to hold because GT got sacked. That's the way it looks to me.
AS far as playing the man... you can post all you like. Problem is that whatever you post always seems to relate back to your agenda about GT being the messiah.
If you want to judge RL, do so without bias, and without comparing him to GT. If you can do this, then you won't hear a peep out of me.
Let's wait and see how 08 pans out, then 09. Then we'll decide if he a good coach or not. Frankly, I have zero knowledge of what the plan is, what the coach thinks, and what the players think of the coach. My opinions are purely speculative thoughts.
Which is why i get peeved off when people like yourself come on and state opinions as fact. Feel free to read your own post back to yourself... It's like a broken record... RL tried to turn us into Sydney... GT should never have been sacked... yada yada yada.
Yet despite what happens on the field, which is contrary to your opinions, you still stand by the same old lines.
BTW, YES I do take the piss. It is only a sport after all, and I find this forum a great place to talk shyte about footy coz my wife hates it. I take the piss coz so many take it and themselves too seriously (especially when we lose).
Peace.
The lid is off after Round 2! Enjoy the journey, coz you just don't know where we'll end up. Live for today and seize the moment.