Koschitzke and the ruck
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Koschitzke and the ruck
Well, he keeps insisting on being a ruckman, but Blake is a far superior ruck than Kosi.
My understanding is that he has agitated regularly with his two recent coaches about playing in the ruck, but really, he is utterly ineffectual as a ruckman. As well as his inability to tap the ball (let alone get close to it in the ruck contest), his endurance is non-existent.
Kosi is treading water at the moment, and has an opportunity in the finals to have an impact as a forward. Let's hope he leaves today's form behind him.
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My understanding is that he has agitated regularly with his two recent coaches about playing in the ruck, but really, he is utterly ineffectual as a ruckman. As well as his inability to tap the ball (let alone get close to it in the ruck contest), his endurance is non-existent.
Kosi is treading water at the moment, and has an opportunity in the finals to have an impact as a forward. Let's hope he leaves today's form behind him.
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its getting frustrating as i love the man
however ive said it all along that i think that ross is going to trade a big name at the end of the year and the only two i can really see are kosi and dal...
however we need an extra tall in the forward line and he provides it...ahh!!
however ive said it all along that i think that ross is going to trade a big name at the end of the year and the only two i can really see are kosi and dal...
however we need an extra tall in the forward line and he provides it...ahh!!
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Kosi is not treading water, he's sinking. Very disappointing AGAIN today. Oh well, not gonna let it get me down after todays game.
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If I continue to say he should be traded, which he should, several posters here have threatened not read my posts.
So, I say again Kosi must be traded.
He was less than ordinary today and hopefully some other team is prepared to offer a reasonable trade, mistakenly believing he will come good at some time in the future.
So, I say again Kosi must be traded.
He was less than ordinary today and hopefully some other team is prepared to offer a reasonable trade, mistakenly believing he will come good at some time in the future.
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Perhaps Kosi +3rd round pick for Boyle and 1st round pick would tempt me but I think he is too talented to risk giving away...
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that's not entirely true. hasn't been a consistent match-winner, i agree, but has played some good football.Bernard Shakey wrote:Nobody's seen him play well for 4 years.
i think we erred by trying to turn him into a key forward (which i initially was in favour of) but it now seems clear that his best role is as a mobile big man around the ground.
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Harvey's 350th - yes he is a disappointment but the payoff is huge if he rediscovers his confidence and meets even half of his potential. King has perhaps a year left and on song Kosi is potentially our best forward. Remember talls take longer to develop and after his injuries his confidence was smashed - basically he went back to square one.Bernard Shakey wrote:How well can he play, bigcarl?
Nobody's seen him play well for 4 years.
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Have been & I still am a Kosi supporter . He is not playing great footy at the moment & yes its been a long time since he has strung some decent games together. To me he is an integral part of our team ,even though his form has been down he gives us options & he takes a good defender every time he plays forward which frees up our other forwards. I really dont think hes ruckman but he can help out in that area when its required but definately not a full time gig.I have said this many times before play him at chb take a bit of expectation off him & we may see him blossom into player he once was. He is good for the team even when hes not playing well because the players around him know he has the ability we just have to be patient instead of reactive & call for him to be traded everytime he has a bad patch.Everyone has their own opinions & I respect that & I can see why supporters are calling for his head but I really have faith Kosi hopefully he'll prove me right
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Im a Kosi fan.
I think he can play and he has that quality to dominate a game - yes infrequent but he HAS done it ...he reminds me of Brad Ottens as others have posted.....and hes now integral at Geelong.
One thing I reckon, and saw today, that we forget is that Kosi does bring footy to ground in fwd line - he crashed a few packs today to cause spillgaes that allowed a Milne/Sneider et al to have a crack...IF wed only had Roo today how easy would it have bee to simply block him from doing this?
Cmon Kos.....all it takes is you to take 1 game by the scruff of the neck...and the confidence flows from there...
I think he can play and he has that quality to dominate a game - yes infrequent but he HAS done it ...he reminds me of Brad Ottens as others have posted.....and hes now integral at Geelong.
One thing I reckon, and saw today, that we forget is that Kosi does bring footy to ground in fwd line - he crashed a few packs today to cause spillgaes that allowed a Milne/Sneider et al to have a crack...IF wed only had Roo today how easy would it have bee to simply block him from doing this?
Cmon Kos.....all it takes is you to take 1 game by the scruff of the neck...and the confidence flows from there...
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I think Kos could end up being a Simmonds/Ottens/Lade case, where the big man simply takes a long time to get it right. He has the ability, but does need a massive kick up the arse. If he could get around the ground a bit quicker (and for longer) then he'd be a valuable 2nd ruckman/forward. Hitouts don't concern me (a 'good' tap ruckman usually averages no more than 5 hitouts to advantage per game), but Kosi isn't hurting the opposition around the ground right now. All he needs is a big pre season with an emphasis on endurance running and I'm confident he'll be a much better player.
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Kosi is only a shadow at present of what he promised to be, and is sadly down on touch an form.
Charlie Gardiner arguably today provided more value than Kosi did.
As to comparing Kosi to Lade or Ottens....you have to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ruckwork is not just tapwork...both of which Lade and Ottens can do, but is also providing BODYWORK at ruck contest and aroud the ground to allow you mids to do their job. Lade and Ottens dothis in spades...Kos i is clueless.
Kosi needs to improve or he may well find one Ben Mcevy taking his place in 2009 or 2010.
Charlie Gardiner arguably today provided more value than Kosi did.
As to comparing Kosi to Lade or Ottens....you have to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ruckwork is not just tapwork...both of which Lade and Ottens can do, but is also providing BODYWORK at ruck contest and aroud the ground to allow you mids to do their job. Lade and Ottens dothis in spades...Kos i is clueless.
Kosi needs to improve or he may well find one Ben Mcevy taking his place in 2009 or 2010.
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