Cull time

[asiu]

why are we not getting the best out of kosi and fiona

why are we not getting the best out of the trotting duck

why are we not getting the best out of 'our' team

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[marksnsparks]

Well who are they ? - lets face it even some of our young players look dead set average - at the very best they will be ordinary. Time to cull and keep turn over until we find some GOOD players.
A wsated trip to see that first quarter dished up.

Time to cull the posters to this site. Should be done like they do to seals too.

[jonesy]

we will not be getting rid of either of dal or kosi everyone has f****** bad years.

Name Kosi's good years. There aren't any.

I can't either

He seems to be one of those players who plays a few good games that happen to be televised and sucks alot of people into thinking he is better than he really is, kind of like Peter Everitt really and that is the truth.

Wish he was half as good as what Everitt was.

Despite his 'F-wit'ness he played a couple of stellar years,being 98 and 00

[Sainternist]

Retire: Baker

What makes you think he has nothing left in the tank?

Sure, he has struggled this season and serving the suspension at the start didn't help, but I reckon he's not finished with yet.

[st.byron]

Yes.

we will not be getting rid of either of dal or kosi everyone has f****** bad years.

Kosi has had several in a row.

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Yes.

we will not be getting rid of either of dal or kosi everyone has f****** bad years.

Kosi has had several in a row.

its okay because ralphy said the f bomb to make a point as usual

its okay he is right and you are wrong whoeveryouare

to quote gordon ramsay, 'f***!'

[st.byron]

Yes.

we will not be getting rid of either of dal or kosi everyone has f****** bad years.

Kosi has had several in a row.

its okay because ralphy said the f bomb to make a point as usual

its okay he is right and you are wrong whoeveryouare

to quote gordon ramsay, 'f***!'

yes, I am also a f***** troll. Busted.

[groupie1]

St Kilda Player Types

ELITE (always beat their opponents, star contributors consistently)
Hayes
Hudghton
Baker
Goddard
S Fisher
PROBLEM: Missed Baker all year, Goddard and Hudghton for parts of the year each
Too few of them

ALL HEART
Ball
Harvey
Roo
Blake
C Jones
PROBLEM; IT'S A SHAME 2 OF THESE GUYS DON'T HAVE GREAT SKILLS

COULDDA BEENS (Inconsistent or often injured could-be-elite players)
M Gardiner
Milne
Dal
Schneider
X Clarke
R Clarke
Montagna
Gram
Fiora
Gehrig
Maguire
Gilbert
King
Kozi
PROBLEM: WAY TOO MANY OF THESE GUYS

B-GRADERS (SOMETIMES DO OK, BUT ARE BASICALLY B-GRADE FOOTBALLERS)
L Fisher
McG
Dempster
Rix
C Gardiner
Birss
Ferguson
PROBLEM: WITH SLIM DRAFT PICKS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE MAY HAVE BEEN BETTER GETTING YOUNGER GUYS INSTEAD OF THESE GUYS, AND TRADING THEM AWAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR DRAFT PICKS


YOUNG GUYS MAY BE OK, BUT NOT GREAT
Geary
Armitage
McEvoy
Gwilt
Howard
Allen

PROBLEM: IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THEY WERE STARS IN THE MAKING

GENUINE POTENTIAL
Eddy
Steven
Van Rheenan
PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE: NOT ENOUGH OF THEM

The GT years left us a bit short of young talent, (Brooks, R Clarke, Watt were all first-rounders or swapped for first rounders) and a bit top heavy with B-Graders (Remember McGough). RL has worked to fix that, but we may be running out of time with GC17 coming, and you'll never get it right every time picking kids

St Kilda have problems going forward and should delist as many B-Graders as possible, and think of trading some of the Couldda-Beens for younger players

[bigcarl]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

that would be my worst nightmare come true.

big mistake to let class like dal go, imo, which will come back to haunt us.

ross must get him playing the type of football we all know he can.

[quidnunc]

The rumour is that there will be two very good players available during trade week - Kerr and Brown.

Taking the passion and loyalty out of the equation I would be very happy to have them at the Saints even if it meant losing Dal and Kosi because quite simply two of those four perform to their ability almost weekly.

The Eagles may be tempted but don't think the Lions would be.

Anyway, that's my two bobs worth - I want success and the cold reality is that difficult (hard to digest) decisions need to be made.

[meher baba]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

that would be my worst nightmare come true.

big mistake to let class like dal go, imo, which will come back to haunt us.

ross must get him playing the type of football we all know he can.

Perhaps it's a case of either Ross goes or Dal goes. If so, I'm sure it would be Dal, who will go on to win a premiership somewhere else. While well recruit another Clinton Jones-type player. (Do you know that the horrifying fact is that - despite all the drivel written on here about poor recruiting prior to 2006, that Jones is the most successful player recruited by the club in the past two years!! This is despite the fact that he is older than Dal and despite our having had two top ten draft picks)

[chook23]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

that would be my worst nightmare come true.

big mistake to let class like dal go, imo, which will come back to haunt us.

ross must get him playing the type of football we all know he can.

No

DAL MUST get himself playing the football we know he can

[starsign]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

Made me think again just how much we missed Bally sat night
Quite probably had a bit of an affect on all the regular mids , but maybe NDS specifically? Thats not offered as any excuse by the way, just an obsevation
Though at the game I not entirely sure who was supposed to be doing a lot of the in and undr that Bally does cos we weren't all that winning the hard balls
Mini perhaps , but he's too light in the frame to do that for 4 quarters
We really need more mids with these type of skills, and as i mentioned in another thread, many of the Hawks/Cats mids appear to have this ability, yet most of ours are a bit too one dimensionable

[spert]

Midfields who cant deliver the ball properly by foot and who don't get amongst the goals, won't be playing in premierships, and that is one of our big weaknesses. We need another big body in the backline, as once Max is gone a big hole exists and Fisher is not a key defender, while Gilbert is woeful this season..the backline is fragile, and fragile backlines don't figure in premierships either. There's a lot of soul-searching to do at the club if we are to take the next step.

[Grimfang]

Why are people putting Van Rheenan on the gone list? Is it due to the foot injury that's seen him miss most of this season or is there another reason?

[ausfatcat]

Why are people putting Van Rheenan on the gone list? Is it due to the foot injury that's seen him miss most of this season or is there another reason?

Becasue he's a 2nd year rookie we now have to elevate him or delist him.

[plugger66]

Why are people putting Van Rheenan on the gone list? Is it due to the foot injury that's seen him miss most of this season or is there another reason?

Becasue he's a 2nd year rookie we now have to elevate him or delist him.

But we can redraft him as a rookie. Would be a stupid move though.

[bigcarl]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

that would be my worst nightmare come true.

big mistake to let class like dal go, imo, which will come back to haunt us.

ross must get him playing the type of football we all know he can.

No

DAL MUST get himself playing the football we know he can

dal nearly won the brownlow medal as a 21-year-old in 2005 under GT's tutelage, so there can be no doubt that he can play.

what has gone wrong? why have the wheels fallen off such a promising career?

part of the coach's job is to get the best out of players. that was clearly one of GT's strengths, but i haven't seen anything to suggest that ross is in the same class.

many of them are playing without confidence and looking as though they are too scared to take a risk for fear of being dropped.

i'm not absolving dal of responsibility for his form, but perhaps there is no place in ross's dour, defensive, "accountable" gameplan for creative and attacking types.

i'd play him on a flank beside roo where he could be the missing link in a forward line that has not functioned during ross's tenure.

and while we're at it put bj or gehrig at ff.

consider this: you can't win games if you can't put a score on the board.

[TimeToShineFellas]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

I'd be happy with Marc Murphy and a 2nd Round pick........

[Ralphy]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

I'd be happy with Marc Murphy and a 2nd Round pick........

Dal for murphy straight swap?

[bethb7]

brown for kosi ??

Why would Browny want to play with a group of mental marshmellows?

After years of getting hit lace out by Voss, Lappin, Aker then Black & Power I'm sure he'd be looking forward to the disgraceful delivery that Roo & Kosi get week in week out.

The lions haven't been travelling to well latley either the days of receiving from Voss Lapin and Aker are over. I would difianlty contemplate a trade of Kosi for Brown even though I love Kosi. Brown would be the only one I would trade Kosi for.

[ratismeat]

DRAFT ALEX SILVAGNI!!!!!!!!
AND KYLE MATHEWS!!!!

Both supremely uncertain prospects but gotta say I love watching both these guys play.

[WayneJudson42]

i heard carlton is sniffing around dal santo.

put him beside judd and they'd be a genuine chance for a premiership as soon as next year.

that would be my worst nightmare come true.

big mistake to let class like dal go, imo, which will come back to haunt us.

ross must get him playing the type of football we all know he can.

Perhaps it's a case of either Ross goes or Dal goes. If so, I'm sure it would be Dal, who will go on to win a premiership somewhere else. While well recruit another Clinton Jones-type player. (Do you know that the horrifying fact is that - despite all the drivel written on here about poor recruiting prior to 2006, that Jones is the most successful player recruited by the club in the past two years!! This is despite the fact that he is older than Dal and despite our having had two top ten draft picks)

Dude, Dal should pull his finger out. Have u ever considered that option?

If Roo, Lenny, Harves, Max, Ball, Fisher... just to name a few can play well each week, why can't he?

If he hates RL, then he should either fire up just to spite him, or stick his hand up and step aside for the rest of the season.

You simply can't help but to twist everything towards your hate Ross Lyon view of the world.

No wonder everyone calls you Babbelot.

Carlton will have to trade hard if they want Dal, who is still under contract.
Maybe we can swap him for Ackland? After all King and Gardiner are duds.