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bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
Bigcarl.... its obvious... Kosi


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degruch wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
Oh puhlease...did the coach tell him to pop all his kicks straight up in the air, run 3 metres behind his player, lope around like it was a social match with the boys?
the coach allows the opposition to continually play loose men in our forward line, and tells our players to flood back, and continually plays players out of position


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Post: # 618978Post bigcarl »

degruch wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
Oh puhlease...did the coach tell him to pop all his kicks straight up in the air, run 3 metres behind his player, lope around like it was a social match with the boys?
the coach doesn't seem able to be able to get the best out of him. nor out of quite a few others.


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The_Dud wrote:
degruch wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
Oh puhlease...did the coach tell him to pop all his kicks straight up in the air, run 3 metres behind his player, lope around like it was a social match with the boys?
the coach allows the opposition to continually play loose men in our forward line, and tells our players to flood back, and continually plays players out of position
They play one extra, we play one extra (Goddard...30 touches!), except they seem to be able to cope better, because they dispose better, faster, and attack. I can't see how you can blame players like Lenny, Dal, Gram and Milney's poor disposal on the coach. That's a cop out.


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Post: # 618995Post Teflon »

bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.


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The_Dud wrote:i've said it once and i'll say it again

Ross "the career killer" Lyon

Gherig, Gilbert, Dal Santo...... whose next?

You have got to be kidding? Gehrig an old man, 33 and has athritis

Gilbert, if he was a career killer would not be played

Dal Santo, he thinks he is too good for the team


Ross Lyon' the master stroke'

Blake- best he has ever played, finally has some respect
Clinton Jones' as above'
Eddy, geary, Jones- all off rookie list, why is he a career killer?


as i said earlier i like Dal, but he has got to lift his work rate. if he has tonsitlitis drop him get it fixed and play him in finals


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Post: # 619008Post bigcarl »

Teflon wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.
i'm on the money and you know it :wink:


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bigcarl wrote:
Teflon wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.
i'm on the money and you know it :wink:
Your "on" something ...and it aint money... :shock:


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Post: # 619018Post St Fidelius »

Batnoe wrote:
The_Dud wrote:i've said it once and i'll say it again

Ross "the career killer" Lyon

Gherig, Gilbert, Dal Santo...... whose next?

You have got to be kidding? Gehrig an old man, 33 and has athritis

Gilbert, if he was a career killer would not be played

Dal Santo, he thinks he is too good for the team


Ross Lyon' the master stroke'

Blake- best he has ever played, finally has some respect
Clinton Jones' as above'
Eddy, geary, Jones- all off rookie list, why is he a career killer?


as i said earlier i like Dal, but he has got to lift his work rate. if he has tonsitlitis drop him get it fixed and play him in finals
He hasn't got tonsillitis mate, he is missing some balls....

Unfortunately that is not a medical condition.

There are a couple more on our list with the same condition IMO


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Post: # 619078Post saintly_safes »

I think to trade Dal would be a silly move. I know hes had a ordinary season but he is a game breaker when on song & lets face it with our list we can illafford to lose a player of Dals quality . He is definately not 100% fit & probably should be rested but we dont have too much to fall back on at the moment & he's not Robinson Carusoe when it comes to players having ordinary seasons.


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Teflon wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.
NO player is bigger than the club FFS. If Dal wants to sook, then he should F*** off IMO.

Don't see a "lesser" player like Milne sooking, do you? Oh, yeah... RL threw him a lifeline also. :roll:

We do not need FIGJAMs at our club. Not happy? Bye Bye!


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i dont give a rats arse if he is sick, everybody who is out there is fair game and he was dreadful.

he almost got run down by josh i cant even jump anymore fraser and genuinely looked disinterested.


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Post: # 619103Post WayneJudson42 »

The_Dud wrote:i've said it once and i'll say it again

Ross "the career killer" Lyon

Gherig, Gilbert, Dal Santo...... whose next?

Dud the "intelligence" killer.

Can we trade you to talking Carlton?


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Post: # 619104Post maverick »

Where has this laziness from Dal come from, he may have always been an outside player, but he did gut run...


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Post: # 619134Post bigcarl »

there's a fair bit of finger-pointing going on.

is it the coach's fault or is it the players? or a bit of both?

i'm loathe to point the finger at dal santo because i know he can play and have seen him play at a consistently high standard.

it has me puzzled why he (and a few others) don't play with the same free-wheeling confidence of a couple of seasons back.

at his best he's one of our leading play-makers.

i'm not at all convinced that he's an elite on-baller like judd or harvey. can't gut run like harvey. doesn't have judd's burst speed and physicality.

doesn't mean that i don't rate him. he can win us lots of matches if used correctly.

play him forward beside riewoldt for the whole match and see whether his creativity can lift a forward line that has barely functioned this season.


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WayneJudson42 wrote:
Teflon wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.
NO player is bigger than the club FFS. If Dal wants to sook, then he should F*** off IMO.

Don't see a "lesser" player like Milne sooking, do you? Oh, yeah... RL threw him a lifeline also. :roll:

We do not need FIGJAMs at our club. Not happy? Bye Bye!
You talking to me?


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Teflon wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:
Teflon wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?
That the same coach that threw Gehrig a life line in re starting hios career?

Was that his fault Gehrigs body caved in to the pressures of AFL footy?

Your a fool.
NO player is bigger than the club FFS. If Dal wants to sook, then he should F*** off IMO.

Don't see a "lesser" player like Milne sooking, do you? Oh, yeah... RL threw him a lifeline also. :roll:

We do not need FIGJAMs at our club. Not happy? Bye Bye!
You talking to me?
Nah, the other tool :wink: Just adding weight to you logic.


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bigcarl wrote:
BigMart wrote:The coach will trade him, as a scapegoat.....and he will thrive at another club...(sound familiar)...

You can tell when he speaks that he aint happy, and was not happy with his dropping.....he believes he took the fall for the entire teams form...
i'm with him on that. i also despise the scapegoat attitude. i want a coach who stands up and takes responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame.

first it was gehrig who was costing us game. then dal and milne ...

who is next?

Fair dinkum ever since the streak finished we have hada team chock full of prima donnas and front runners with fragile egos...all expecting that somehow, sometime someone will give them a flag rather than them having to work for it.

Under RL they are just as fragile as they were under GT post-streak.


Dal is very representative of the team. On song takes your breath away...but other times goes missing big time.

We have very few Bangers, Blakes and Maxes who can grind out good football each and every week and quarter.,,,,but many many Dals who play cameoes.

They need to wake up and realise that footy is a TEAM game and that you need to play EVERY week.


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Post: # 619218Post dcstkfc »

I wouldn't mind a bit if they dropped Dal.
Worked last time.
He was crap and looked disinterested.


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Post: # 619225Post bigcarl »

saintsRrising wrote:Under RL they are just as fragile as they were under GT post-streak.
much more so.

we've stood still and watched while geelong, the bulldogs, hawthorn and collingwood have gone past us. carlton looks more likely to win a flag than us.

i'm not sure whether dal or kosi or gehrig or even GT is solely to blame for our falling fortunes.


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ralphysaints35 wrote:how many guys are actually not playing very well

sammy fisher
kosi
joey
grammy
we should trade em all aye

fail

ross will trade a big name at seasons end

after looking at the list dal seems the most dispensible...


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Post: # 619265Post Richter »

St Fidelius wrote: He hasn't got tonsillitis mate, he is missing some balls....

Unfortunately that is not a medical condition.

There are a couple more on our list with the same condition IMO
Too right. The effort in ?2nd quarter which led to a Collingwood goal was just in front of me - he looked like he was trying to work out how he was going to silkily beat his man before he'd even picked up the ball - and BANG, he fumbled, the pies took away the loose ball and kicked a goal.

But then in the 4th quarter, there's Dal, under the packs scrapping again...... a good solid final quarter from him.

I can accept that players have good and bad days/quarters skill wise, but surely you should be going in hard ALL of the time. That is not too much to ask is it?

We play Fremantle again next week. Not sure about dropping Dal again, but...... hmmm......


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Post: # 619267Post Winmarvellous »

Gherig, Gilbert, Dal Santo
One good play left. You decide who? AND IT AIN;T GILBERT, and Gehrig id retriging


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Post: # 619307Post WayneJudson42 »

Funny... The anti-scapegoat brigade are using RL as their scapegoat.

Oh the irony :lol:


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Post: # 619319Post borderbarry »

To me Dal seems disinterested, like he doesnt really want to be there. He was 3rd in the Brownlow behind Cousins and Kerr. At the moment he looks far from being that good a player.
I am sure if traded he would bring a 1st round draft pick. Maybe a good year for it.


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