"Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- Otiman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8607
- Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
- Location: Elsewhere
- Has thanked: 196 times
- Been thanked: 615 times
"Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
Much was said in an armwaving fashion throughout the campaign of the "Footy First" movement to overthrow Rod Butters and implement a Westaway/Burke/Thompson lead board.
More money would be spent on football related aspects of the club, with a focus on improving on field performances. Members would be better treated and informed.
Overall, I think we have improved, however it's the small things which we can see as fruit from the footy first tree.
1. Injuries: Freak accidents (Ball) and Injury Prone players (Gardiner, X) aside, we have had the shortest injury list of just about any club this year. A HUGE improvement which I was not expecting to see until 2009.
2. Player Development: Development of players such as Jones, Eddy, Geary McQualter, Birss, Gwilt, Allen, and Howard. These are guys who would probably have fallen out of the AFL system by now, if not for the persistence of our development staff. There is still a long way to go, as guys like Gilbert (coming good now) and Raph have gone backwards. Casey Scorpions are sitting in a top 4 position, with next to no recognisable VFL listed players at the start of the year. They were seen as a bottom 4 prospect.
3. Professionalism: There is an air of professionalism about the club now, that wasn't there when Rod Butters was running the ship. It's not entirely tangible, but I believe that it's there.
4. St. Kilda Members: I get reasonably regular SMS updates (B&F notice this week, contract signings), and the weekly email and team list have gone from being a farce, to a well put together publication. The addition of the saintscentral website (useless bigpond streaming technology aside) has been fantastic also. Membership packages including our scarves, and some really good quality merchandise (the Intra-Club jumpers are great). There is even a reasonably accurate injury list on the club webpage updated weekly.
I'm not sure what our financial situation is. I look forward to the AGM and Financial Report, but overall we are looking much more like a powerhouse club than a mickey mouse operation.
More money would be spent on football related aspects of the club, with a focus on improving on field performances. Members would be better treated and informed.
Overall, I think we have improved, however it's the small things which we can see as fruit from the footy first tree.
1. Injuries: Freak accidents (Ball) and Injury Prone players (Gardiner, X) aside, we have had the shortest injury list of just about any club this year. A HUGE improvement which I was not expecting to see until 2009.
2. Player Development: Development of players such as Jones, Eddy, Geary McQualter, Birss, Gwilt, Allen, and Howard. These are guys who would probably have fallen out of the AFL system by now, if not for the persistence of our development staff. There is still a long way to go, as guys like Gilbert (coming good now) and Raph have gone backwards. Casey Scorpions are sitting in a top 4 position, with next to no recognisable VFL listed players at the start of the year. They were seen as a bottom 4 prospect.
3. Professionalism: There is an air of professionalism about the club now, that wasn't there when Rod Butters was running the ship. It's not entirely tangible, but I believe that it's there.
4. St. Kilda Members: I get reasonably regular SMS updates (B&F notice this week, contract signings), and the weekly email and team list have gone from being a farce, to a well put together publication. The addition of the saintscentral website (useless bigpond streaming technology aside) has been fantastic also. Membership packages including our scarves, and some really good quality merchandise (the Intra-Club jumpers are great). There is even a reasonably accurate injury list on the club webpage updated weekly.
I'm not sure what our financial situation is. I look forward to the AGM and Financial Report, but overall we are looking much more like a powerhouse club than a mickey mouse operation.
Definately notice the difference. As for the team photos on the emails- they are using last years photos for some players, but I like what they have done. Some very good points made there. Hopefully this work pays off.
It is such a pitty about the bigpond. That thing is a joke. It either buffers ever 5 seconds (even on a great connection and trying the site on different computers at home, work or friends) or takes you to another site. Saints Central really need to fix this or tell bigpond to pull their finger out. You Tube has a better system, and it is free for godsakes. I'd hate to pay money for bigpond vids, I think I would be very dissatisfied.
It is such a pitty about the bigpond. That thing is a joke. It either buffers ever 5 seconds (even on a great connection and trying the site on different computers at home, work or friends) or takes you to another site. Saints Central really need to fix this or tell bigpond to pull their finger out. You Tube has a better system, and it is free for godsakes. I'd hate to pay money for bigpond vids, I think I would be very dissatisfied.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
agree bigpond is uttter crap. Takes ages to load and spends more time buffering than playing. Even on my whizz bang work computer.Huzzad wrote:Definately notice the difference. As for the team photos on the emails- they are using last years photos for some players, but I like what they have done. Some very good points made there. Hopefully this work pays off.
It is such a pitty about the bigpond. That thing is a joke. It either buffers ever 5 seconds (even on a great connection and trying the site on different computers at home, work or friends) or takes you to another site. Saints Central really need to fix this or tell bigpond to pull their finger out. You Tube has a better system, and it is free for godsakes. I'd hate to pay money for bigpond vids, I think I would be very dissatisfied.
- st_Trav_ofWA
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8886
- Joined: Wed 13 Sep 2006 7:10pm
- Location: Perth
- Contact:
Re: "Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
not saying FF are doing a bad job personally i think we are going fin but....
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
-this process was actually put into practice under the old regime FF are just fortunate to reap the benifits1. Injuries: Freak accidents (Ball) and Injury Prone players (Gardiner, X) aside, we have had the shortest injury list of just about any club this year. A HUGE improvement which I was not expecting to see until 2009.
the recruitment staff are pretty much the same as the old boards time with those guys being picked up while RB was still at the helm2. Player Development: Development of players such as Jones, Eddy, Geary McQualter, Birss, Gwilt, Allen, and Howard. These are guys who would probably have fallen out of the AFL system by now, if not for the persistence of our development staff.
Yes i will agree there are not silly outthere remarks or light shows and dancing robots anymore3. Professionalism: There is an air of professionalism about the club now, that wasn't there when Rod Butters was running the ship. It's not entirely tangible, but I believe that it's there.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
"The team that wins in the most positions and makes the least amount of mistakes, usually wins the game." -- Allan Jeans
http://westernsaints.wordpress.com/
http://westernsaints.wordpress.com/
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 16949
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3602 times
- Been thanked: 2875 times
- saintbrat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 44575
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
- Location: saints zone
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 188 times
and increase our membership, ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
![Image](http://www.saintsmembership.com.au/theme/afl-stkilda/img/how-i-want-to-be.png)
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
![Image](http://www.saintsmembership.com.au/theme/afl-stkilda/img/how-i-want-to-be.png)
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30091
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1233 times
Re: "Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
As St Trav said 1/ and 2/ were largely put in place or commenced pre-FF.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:not saying FF are doing a bad job personally i think we are going fin but....
-this process was actually put into practice under the old regime FF are just fortunate to reap the benifits1. Injuries: Freak accidents (Ball) and Injury Prone players (Gardiner, X) aside, we have had the shortest injury list of just about any club this year. A HUGE improvement which I was not expecting to see until 2009.
the recruitment staff are pretty much the same as the old boards time with those guys being picked up while RB was still at the helm2. Player Development: Development of players such as Jones, Eddy, Geary McQualter, Birss, Gwilt, Allen, and Howard. These are guys who would probably have fallen out of the AFL system by now, if not for the persistence of our development staff.
:
Cerataianly the medical and conditionaing side of things were well under way...and our new recruite hired I think.
Also our NSW rookie coach and talent identifier was in place pre-FF
Jones was gained as part of the pre-FF increased recruiting spend assigned to WA ro identification and testing.
FF deserve credit for other things (ie sponosrship and STABILITY...) but not 1/ and 2/
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
- BAM! (shhhh)
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2134
- Joined: Thu 24 May 2007 5:23pm
- Location: The little voice inside your head
Re: "Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
This is the improvement I'm happiest to see. I think it is the single biggest factor in sustained success, and rarely has shortcuts. One bad move can stall it, but making it a successful program takes many good efforts.Otiman wrote: 2. Player Development: Development of players such as Jones, Eddy, Geary McQualter, Birss, Gwilt, Allen, and Howard. These are guys who would probably have fallen out of the AFL system by now, if not for the persistence of our development staff. There is still a long way to go, as guys like Gilbert (coming good now) and Raph have gone backwards. Casey Scorpions are sitting in a top 4 position, with next to no recognisable VFL listed players at the start of the year. They were seen as a bottom 4 prospect.
I think the change in coaching at Casey has been important. I mean no disrespect to the old coach (Hutchison?), but from a Saints perspective, putting a Saints focus on things is important. Better injury results and continuity has doubtless made a difference here too.
Credit should go to Ross Lyon on McQualter. Having the courage to take the risk on delisting and extending a rookie list olive branch. COuld have gone wrong in seeing him succeed elsewhere, could have seen him be a waste of a rookie spot, but it's been a real wakeup call. He now does enough little things well enough to keep playing AFL, and from there, his talent should see him continue to progress.
I love that the rookie list is paying off. In games from the 2006 rookie draft, we're miles in front. We should take with a grain of salt before calling it genious, we entered the rookie game with an empty vessel in a good year, but as we'd expect Eddy to be elevated at years end, 3 players out of 1 rookie draft is exceptional work all round... and there's still Attard who may yet find his way onto the list (other picks being Wall, gone, and Van Rheenan, who I've got no idea on.)
It makes it much easier to be optomistic when young, improving players are putting their hands up. It keeps pressure on the senior guys, it builds our assett base if we decide to go to the trade table, and obviously it improves our depth. Very pleased with the improvement in this area of St KFC.
"Everything comes to he who hustles while he waits"
- Henry Ford
- Henry Ford
all that needs to happen now is for archie to put the issue beyond any shadow of doubt and the rocket up frankston city council.
archie, mate, if you leave these things to council they'll do absolutely nothing champ and nothing will be done. all i have seen so far is a surveyor down there and one or two blokes with drawings. for christ's sake tell them that the plowmans road site is the 'only' site you're interested in and that the st. kilda footy club only want the plowmans road site:- cut down a few old pines .. the foundation is already half dug-out .. throw down some asphalt for a well-positioned carpark, voila! put the thing to tendor and build the bloody building so that we can all sit on our respective arse overlooking the bay and drink a nice cold well-poured beer to premiership success and the future of the saints as the peninsula club.
archie, get in touch with the council and let them know exactly what you want.
let them know that the plowmans road site is what you want and that you want to remove some pine trees so that you can develop the site into a glazed mansion overlooking the bay.
archie, put the rocket up them!
put the rocket up them and get the thing to tendor mate.
archie, mate, if you leave these things to council they'll do absolutely nothing champ and nothing will be done. all i have seen so far is a surveyor down there and one or two blokes with drawings. for christ's sake tell them that the plowmans road site is the 'only' site you're interested in and that the st. kilda footy club only want the plowmans road site:- cut down a few old pines .. the foundation is already half dug-out .. throw down some asphalt for a well-positioned carpark, voila! put the thing to tendor and build the bloody building so that we can all sit on our respective arse overlooking the bay and drink a nice cold well-poured beer to premiership success and the future of the saints as the peninsula club.
archie, get in touch with the council and let them know exactly what you want.
let them know that the plowmans road site is what you want and that you want to remove some pine trees so that you can develop the site into a glazed mansion overlooking the bay.
archie, put the rocket up them!
put the rocket up them and get the thing to tendor mate.
Re: "Footy First" mantra bearing its first fruit.
I miss the dancing robots......st_Trav_ofWA wrote: Yes i will agree there are not silly outthere remarks or light shows and dancing robots anymore
![Crying or Very sad :cry:](./images/smilies/icon_cry.gif)