Umpiring definitions from Saturday

[howlinwolf]

A few things had me confused about the umpiring on Saturday night.

Did anyone else notice how the Hawks CONTINUALLY crept 3 metres on the mark after each mark ?
I reckon this happened 90% of the time and the umpires were oblivious to it.

Possibly the most frustrating decisions to accept was the lame free paid to Franklin for what seemed a perfectly legitimate attempt to spoil by Max.
To be honest the similar free Nick got was puzzling as well. Haven't seen the video to clarify any of these yet.

The job of a defender is twice as hard as it used it to be.

On a side note. Max's speech was inspiring in the victory room post game.
There were many a proud Sainters in there !

[ark]

howlinwolf Posted:
A few things had me confused about the umpiring on Saturday night.

Did anyone else notice how the Hawks CONTINUALLY crept 3 metres on the mark after each mark ?
I reckon this happened 90% of the time and the umpires were oblivious to it.

Hawks have done this for several years. Agree they did it again on Sat. Suspect it's done to further impede forward momentum into/through the midfield and give more time for their zone. Should be dealt with.

[Armoooo]

The Franklin spoil was a disgrace but I thought it was Gilbo instead of max for some reason

As for the Riewoldt one, i'm not sure if I saw it, was it the one where the hawks player went for the leap and bumped into Riewoldt front on?

[howlinwolf]

It really P'd me off. Especially when we were under the pump. It equated to hundreds of metres by game end.

It's obviously one of the tactics they focus on to gain advantage before the umpires wake up one week and they are pinged.

I reckon the Hawks concentrate on "semi-legal " tactics for advantage.
All part of smart football like Bowden's points.
However it annoys me how slow the umpires are to pick up on things that are out of the rules.

The Sydney Syndicate innocently disguised their tunnelling tactics.
Haven't seen a lot of it since it was highlighted.

The road to a flag is a tough one. It's our duty to highlight unfair advantages asap.

[Mr Magic]

The Franklin spoil was a disgrace but I thought it was Gilbo instead of max for some reason

As for the Riewoldt one, i'm not sure if I saw it, was it the one where the hawks player went for the leap and bumped into Riewoldt front on?

NO, that one was when Croad 'kneed' Roo in teh ribs from the front.

I think the one he is talking about was a 'hand lightly in the back' earlier in the game?

Whata absolutely astounds me from week to week is when all of a sudden the umpire plucks a 50m from his ar$e when a player touches his opponent after a mark and then the next game, the defender is able to almost 'mug' his opponent who has just marked the ball.

As for the OP question, nothing could be worse than the shambles that took place in the second quarter when not only did the players have no idea who was getting the free, but 2 umpires appeared to pay it to opposing players. Finally it was given to Fiora.

Also, how was the audio of the Umpire down the ground yelling at the umpire in the middle to give the footy to Blake for the 'interchange free'?
And then the umpire appeared not to know that there needed to be a 50m penatly attached.

Obviously didn't know the rule!

[howlinwolf]

It could have been Gilbo spoiling and not Max.
It was as a very soft (read incorrect) decision either way.

I'm waiting for my son to render the HD TV recording of the game to dvd to watch it up close.

The free Nick got was at the Lockett end after a marking contest in which I could see absolutely nothing infringed yet he got the free and goal.

I am sure the Hawks fans are disgruntled as well as some decisions had me nonplussed both ways.

In today's game it's hard to understand why the umpiring can't be more consistent

[bergsone]

Decision against roo,and 50 penalty,if you are standing bending to pick up ball, opp player dives in at ball ,head contact free kick when opp player instigates contact.?sure Mr Magic will take me to task over head contact again,but sometimes its puzzling.IMO,as for 50 penalty,sure Roo language was no worse than mine

[Mr Magic]

Decision against roo,and 50 penalty,if you are standing bending to pick up ball, opp player dives in at ball ,head contact free kick when opp player instigates contact.?sure Mr Magic will take me to task over head contact again,but sometimes its puzzling.IMO,as for 50 penalty,sure Roo language was no worse than mine

Absolutely not - you are spot on in this one.

The 'head high contact' isasue should only be raise when the opposition player hits his opponent in that area.

In this case the whole contact was instigated by the player diving into Roo's legs and was a disgraceful interpretation.

[aussiejones]

Creeping over the mark very blatant .......
..Why dont the maggots see it !!!

[Eastern]

A few things had me confused about the umpiring on Saturday night.

Did anyone else notice how the Hawks CONTINUALLY crept 3 metres on the mark after each mark ?
I reckon this happened 90% of the time and the umpires were oblivious to it. !

Yes I noticed it, any yes the Hawks did it well enough NOT to get picked up by the umpires. It is this sort of attention to detail that some clubs can afford the resources to exploit the rules whilst other clubs, including ours can't afford. The bottom line is that our club needs to raise the funds that can then be used in our footy dept so that we too can exploit the rules to the nth degree !!

[bergsone]

Decision against roo,and 50 penalty,if you are standing bending to pick up ball, opp player dives in at ball ,head contact free kick when opp player instigates contact.?sure Mr Magic will take me to task over head contact again,but sometimes its puzzling.IMO,as for 50 penalty,sure Roo language was no worse than mine

Absolutely not - you are spot on in this one.

The 'head high contact' isasue should only be raise when the opposition player hits his opponent in that area.

In this case the whole contact was instigated by the player diving into Roo's legs and was a disgraceful interpretation.

Allways going to be a grey area,agree to agree on some, disagree on others.
Well done

[Bernard Shakey]

howlinwolf,

Cribbing 3 metres is a big call. Maybe half a metre. London Sessions is a great album.

The Hawks are masters at it, but who cares we won