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BJ the silent assassin?

Post: # 603120Post Dan Warna »

just turned 23

100 games under the belt

height 189/190 cm

exceptionally good long kick
exceptionally good overhead mark
strong lead

averageing 7.5 marks per game
averaging 21 possessions per game

in 2008

(noting season lowest was 15, season high 28, 9 games at 19 - 22 possessions)

just going about his business, under the radar, in the backline, drifting up forward, splitting the packs with penetrating kicking upfield.

will just get better.

doesn't do the flash, doesn't try and use his pace, just keeps on ticking, running hard across the field, leading hard through the back line, and then switching across the field or driving long to a leading forward.

given he wont reach his peak for another 2 or 3 seasons, just ticking along nicely.

wouldn't mind seeing riewoldt at FF and BJ at CHF to be honest with Kosi at CHB.


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Post: # 603125Post WayneJudson42 »

Always felt that Roo doesn't have the physicality to be a CHF like Brown.

Any reason why u wouldn't have Kozi at CHF?

I can understand why BJ, gtreat mark and could slot quite a few goals from 50m, though.


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Post: # 603126Post Bernard Shakey »

BJ will be a Hall of Famer after he finishes in 2020.

Kosi is not a defender, but Riewoldt plays better up the ground.


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Post: # 603127Post remboy »

I cant think of too many players who have come back from a reconstruction better than BJ. I do think he'd be wasted at CHF though. Better value for the team through the midfield.
His vision and disposal are as good as anyone going around. I'd rather have him hitting Roo and Kosi on the chest 9 time out of 10 with 50-60 metre passes than have him as the target.


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Post: # 603130Post Dan Warna »

Nothing wrong with playing Kosi at CHF, I just think goddard would be better at it.

Roo running out of the goal square with his burst pace would be impossible to stop and goddard has all the hallmarks of a great talented CHF.

Kosi looks as comfortable at FB and CHB as he does at HF, I think goddard while doing really well, is underutilised on the HBF.


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Post: # 603136Post WayneJudson42 »

Fair comment. If I had to choose, thos, it would be BJ at CHF coz of kicking accuracy.


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Post: # 603161Post chook23 »

Kossie

I think would not be comfortable as mentioned by Dan

Lacks speed and agility/quick sideway movement......

Yes did win RS at CHB.......now a different shape body ....and above also limited by injury......

Whilst not a genuine ruck(needs time in there).......is damaging in forward line as a floater(difficult to fully explain)....

FF.....not a great lead
CHF......would not be able to play lead up roll.....continually like Roo


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Post: # 603164Post saints11 »

Dan Warna wrote:just turned 23

100 games under the belt

height 189/190 cm

exceptionally good long kick
exceptionally good overhead mark
strong lead

averageing 7.5 marks per game
averaging 21 possessions per game

in 2008

(noting season lowest was 15, season high 28, 9 games at 19 - 22 possessions)

just going about his business, under the radar, in the backline, drifting up forward, splitting the packs with penetrating kicking upfield.

will just get better.

doesn't do the flash, doesn't try and use his pace, just keeps on ticking, running hard across the field, leading hard through the back line, and then switching across the field or driving long to a leading forward.

given he wont reach his peak for another 2 or 3 seasons, just ticking along nicely.

wouldn't mind seeing riewoldt at FF and BJ at CHF to be honest with Kosi at CHB.
Not being too pesky but he's 192 cm


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Post: # 603179Post Dan Warna »

chook23 wrote:Kossie

I think would not be comfortable as mentioned by Dan

Lacks speed and agility/quick sideway movement......

Yes did win RS at CHB.......now a different shape body ....and above also limited by injury......

Whilst not a genuine ruck(needs time in there).......is damaging in forward line as a floater(difficult to fully explain)....

FF.....not a great lead
CHF......would not be able to play lead up roll.....continually like Roo
I know what you mean as a floater

but he is an outstanding mark, and for a man of his shape is a beautiful kick of the footy.

I think there is still a bit of a country lad in him, as when we were playing 'chippilotto' and other players were in two minds of what to do, if Kosi got the ball, he'd just bomb it long looking for FG or riewoldt and possibly create a goal scoring opportunity.

unlike a lot of others, he doesn't seem to play complicated football.

he marks it, and then handpasses to a runner, or kicks it to whoever leads.

gotta love him


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Post: # 603181Post rexy »

Agree on his importance, his under rated comeback and all his attributes. I am one though who agrees he is best suited as a midfielder/winger/back flanker. You dont waste field kicking like that up forward you utilise it to get better shots at goal for your forwards.

Would be a good test for his developement to see him have to pinch hit like Silvagni used to at some stage but not every week as a tac tic IMO.

BJ will captain this club, he is a star.


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Post: # 603182Post casey scorp »

For me:

* JK at FF leading out to CHF
* NR stationed between FF and CHF leading out through the flank to the wing
* BJ at HBF streaming towards the centre with long kicks into JK or NR.


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Post: # 603187Post rexy »

casey scorp wrote:For me:

* JK at FF leading out to CHF
* NR stationed between FF and CHF leading out through the flank to the wing
* BJ at HBF streaming towards the centre with long kicks into JK or NR.
Spot on


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btw look how far high it is and how far behind the goals it lands....


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Dan Warna wrote:just turned 23

100 games under the belt

height 189/190 cm

exceptionally good long kick
exceptionally good overhead mark
strong lead

averageing 7.5 marks per game
averaging 21 possessions per game

in 2008

(noting season lowest was 15, season high 28, 9 games at 19 - 22 possessions)

just going about his business, under the radar, in the backline, drifting up forward, splitting the packs with penetrating kicking upfield.

will just get better.

doesn't do the flash, doesn't try and use his pace, just keeps on ticking, running hard across the field, leading hard through the back line, and then switching across the field or driving long to a leading forward.

given he wont reach his peak for another 2 or 3 seasons, just ticking along nicely.

wouldn't mind seeing riewoldt at FF and BJ at CHF to be honest with Kosi at CHB.

actually...191cm....


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Post: # 603202Post markp »

Thank god he's a silent assassin and not another X factor.... we've already got a few of those.


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Post: # 603203Post Dan Warna »

interesting I've read 3 sources listing him at 188, 189 and 190, and two posters list him at 191 and 192.

will the real BJ step forward :lol:


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Post: # 603209Post saint66au »

Have to say though, I cringe a little when BJ chooses to dink the ball 20m to the pocket when he's kicking out from full back

Sheesh the bloke could hit an ant between the eyes 60m away, do you reckon we could maybe use that skill if hes the designated kicker.?????

God love her, AOK's Mum could chip the ball 20m to Gwilt sitting in the pocket, Why have one of the best kicks in the comp do it when the ball could be 70m down the ground?


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Dan Warna wrote:interesting I've read 3 sources listing him at 188, 189 and 190, and two posters list him at 191 and 192.

will the real BJ step forward :lol:
Nah he's 198


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Dan Warna wrote:interesting I've read 3 sources listing him at 188, 189 and 190, and two posters list him at 191 and 192.

will the real BJ step forward :lol:
I've spoken with him eye to eye and I reckon he's exactly my height - 191.

Will be interesting to find out the real measurement.


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Post: # 603215Post Teflon »

I distinctly notice that BJ appears to be hanging on to the footy a little longer these days and he was nearly caught a few times on Friday...anyone else notice this?


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Teflon wrote:I distinctly notice that BJ appears to be hanging on to the footy a little longer these days and he was nearly caught a few times on Friday...anyone else notice this?
But the key is the word nearly.

In his early days he'd hang onto it too long and actually get caught - hence the rabbit in the headlights analogy he was given.

These days I think it's through more of a General role and looking forward rather than sideways.

He gets frustrated, he displays it, and I love it. He's passionate, even when it's him who stuffs up.

Others make a blue and hang their head, BJ gets angry about it.


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Post: # 603269Post saintsRrising »

BJ's biggest talent is setting up play.....so needs to be in midfield or the back half...

His strength is not being a "moving target', which is largely what your CHF/FF's are.


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Iceman234 wrote: These days I think it's through more of a General role and looking forward rather than sideways.

He gets frustrated, he displays it, and I love it. He's passionate, even when it's him who stuffs up.

Others make a blue and hang their head, BJ gets angry about it.
A future captain no doubt about it.

Along with Roo and Maxy one of the few to really let their emotions show.
I'm not suggesting no one else feels as much for the club but with those boys you really see it.

I'm loving his intensity and focus this season.


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Post: # 603289Post fonz_#15 »

according to the afl record season guide 2008 he is 191cm..hope that clears up all the confusion.


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Post: # 603293Post Solar »

I think it's a sign of a good player when they hold onto it a little longer then most to make sure they use the ball perfectly. I would always rather a player steady and kick well then panic and kick quickly


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