Gilbert on Buddy?
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Gilbert on Buddy?
ok im coach for the day. i give Sam Gilbert a call right now and I say SAm - you are my 1st choice on Buddy. Dont lose sleep over it but you are on. I got faith in you. i know you havent had a great year but here is your chance to turn it around. if u are getting killed ill move max on to him. but you are first choice. so get ready.
Max on Williams (dont let him get a sniff)
Gilbert on Buddy (Run and spoil all day)
Sam Fisher on Roughhead (Run off him on the rebound/counter attack)
Max on Williams (dont let him get a sniff)
Gilbert on Buddy (Run and spoil all day)
Sam Fisher on Roughhead (Run off him on the rebound/counter attack)
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An interesting matchup Con.. think its more likely that Max will get Buddy and Fisher will stand Roughead...but if Lyon is looking to free Fisher up to run off halfback/through the middle could be worth consideration...certainly has the pace to go with him..aerially though Max could be a safer bet.
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Wouldn't you think Buddy will run Max off his feet though? I'd love Max on him one on one inside 50. However Buddy ventures up the ground a lot,unsure wehther Max will have the legs?
I could be wrong....I don't have any alternative answers..Blake,Gilbert,Fisher? Dunno,hopefully he gets injured in the last quarter of the game now
I could be wrong....I don't have any alternative answers..Blake,Gilbert,Fisher? Dunno,hopefully he gets injured in the last quarter of the game now
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id think buddy might run too much for Maxy too.
But im trying to make a point that Gilbert is the right type of player for Buddy and hes now old enough to take some responsibility. We can't always expect Max (and Harves and Lenny) to do everything. Sam Fisher stood up 2 years ago and never looked back and its time we put some responsibility on Gilbert. He is 22 and 194 cm. He is 6 months older than Buddy. Gilbert is no longer a young player. He should be ready.
But im trying to make a point that Gilbert is the right type of player for Buddy and hes now old enough to take some responsibility. We can't always expect Max (and Harves and Lenny) to do everything. Sam Fisher stood up 2 years ago and never looked back and its time we put some responsibility on Gilbert. He is 22 and 194 cm. He is 6 months older than Buddy. Gilbert is no longer a young player. He should be ready.
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doesnt he have one week when he is crap then one week when he kicks 8?TimeToShineFellas wrote:Sounds like Buddy's got his kicking boot on again today........ the wrong one that is!
at the 23 minute mark of the last quarter his contribution's been
3 goals 7 behinds
5 free kicks against
10 clangers
Hope he saves this form for next week!
seems like it has been going that way,
but i think we can beat them,
play max on roughead maybe,
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I reckon Blakes the man for Buddy - he's got the engine to run with him and has done some good jobs in recent weeks. I think Buddy would be too good for Sam at this stage - Sam might be better off with Williams who looked pretty dangerous today. Maxie can handle the Roughie - try and keep Sam Fisher free but I expect Clarkson will be trying to make him accountable.
Don't forget the Hawks will have a few worries trying to match up on us as well.
Don't forget the Hawks will have a few worries trying to match up on us as well.
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Buddy also has a temper and gets affected by it. Blake and Max are both experts at getting into the head of their opponent.
Rotate the two on him dependent on the field position he plays.
Also we often have an extra defender so have Sam or BJ double team him early on to prevent his possesions and put some physical contact/pressure on him.
Rotate the two on him dependent on the field position he plays.
Also we often have an extra defender so have Sam or BJ double team him early on to prevent his possesions and put some physical contact/pressure on him.
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i was at the hawthorn game today and from what i saw of him it doesn't matter much who you put on him.Con Gorozidis wrote:Gilbert. He is 22 and 194 cm. He is 6 months older than Buddy. Gilbert is no longer a young player. He should be ready.
he does exactly as he pleases and might be the most dominant player since lockett was a similar age.
max might be run off his feet and gilbert probably would not be physically strong enough, but you might as well give the unenviable task to one of them. aomeone's got to do it.
we've just got to beat them in other areas and make sure the ball doesn't get in there except under extreme pressure.
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Precisely. Concede the Franklin duel and put Gilbert on him. Have Max take out Roughead, and Blake helping out and/or taking the 3rd tall.bigcarl wrote:max might be run off his feet and gilbert probably would not be physically strong enough, but you might as well give the unenviable task to one of them. aomeone's got to do it.
There is difference between conceding a dual and losing a game. Max may not have the motor but Gilbert doesnt have the form. The best backman on the best forward works for me.Otiman wrote:Precisely. Concede the Franklin duel and put Gilbert on him. Have Max take out Roughead, and Blake helping out and/or taking the 3rd tall.bigcarl wrote:max might be run off his feet and gilbert probably would not be physically strong enough, but you might as well give the unenviable task to one of them. aomeone's got to do it.
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Let me put it this way.plugger66 wrote:There is difference between conceding a dual and losing a game. Max may not have the motor but Gilbert doesnt have the form. The best backman on the best forward works for me.
Max on Franklin - 4 goals
Blake on Roughhead - 5 goals
or...
Gilbert on Franklin - 6 goals
Max on Roughead - 1 or 2 goals
Winning the game isn't about stopping Franklin from kicking 8 goals, it's about stopping the whole Hawthorn forward line from kicking goals. You place your men where they will concede the least goals overall.
I didnt know that was what they would kick on each player. Were did you find that information. If that is what they will kick you are right. Sorry for doubting you.Otiman wrote:Let me put it this way.plugger66 wrote:There is difference between conceding a dual and losing a game. Max may not have the motor but Gilbert doesnt have the form. The best backman on the best forward works for me.
Max on Franklin - 4 goals
Blake on Roughhead - 5 goals
or...
Gilbert on Franklin - 6 goals
Max on Roughead - 1 or 2 goals
Winning the game isn't about stopping Franklin from kicking 8 goals, it's about stopping the whole Hawthorn forward line from kicking goals. You place your men where they will concede the least goals overall.
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For mine - Gilbo on Buddy is good for us. Gilbo has the speed and size to run with Buddy. This also may get the Hawks to look to isolate Buddy deep forward to make Gilbo feel more unfomfortable. This would be a win as they wouldn't have Buddy helping out around HF up in to the middle as they usually do. If they do leave Buddy up at HF Gilbo has the attacking style that will hopefully make Buddy accountable.
Max on Roughy is my bet and Chips can then help out where he can on either Buddy or Roughy. We then need to put someone on the Rifleman and i would go with Blake there.
But regardless of how we line up in the back half it will be won and loss in the middle. Cut supply to the likes of Hodge, Mitchell etc. and then we have a shot but we can't afford to go negative we must make take them on and attack their rolling zone.
Max on Roughy is my bet and Chips can then help out where he can on either Buddy or Roughy. We then need to put someone on the Rifleman and i would go with Blake there.
But regardless of how we line up in the back half it will be won and loss in the middle. Cut supply to the likes of Hodge, Mitchell etc. and then we have a shot but we can't afford to go negative we must make take them on and attack their rolling zone.
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Intuition and guesswork, it's what all of the hard coaching decisions are about.plugger66 wrote:I didnt know that was what they would kick on each player. Were did you find that information. If that is what they will kick you are right. Sorry for doubting you.
I think that Franklin will dominate no matter who we put on him, so we may as well use Max to negate their secondary forward target.
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I think you're overstating him to be honest.benoc wrote:I think Blake is quick enough if the other backs don't leave too many openings.evertonfc wrote: Blake isn't quick/smart enough.
He is far smarter than people give him credit for. He is playing some of his best footy and will make buddy accountable on the counter attack.
He hasn't had a bad few weeks, but let's face up to the facts here.
Buddy Franklin is one of the best in the game. Blake should need special permission to be allowed on the same field.
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