The Simple Fact is.......

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

[congorozides]

our list has been stagnant for 5 years.

enuff said.

cant run. cant kick. i think we need shane warne as coach. add some flair!

[Gilbert=Legend]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

The thing is most of our list does have amazing talent, look at lenny, both sams, ball, dal, harvey.

However, rl has them playing in a way that doesnt reflect there talent.

I saw Gram at cdaddy last saturday and ask him he he respected rl, he paused for 10 sec before answering yes in a shakey vocie,

I dont think the players repect the coach

[chook23]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

The thing is most of our list does have amazing talent, look at lenny, both sams, ball, dal, harvey.

However, rl has them playing in a way that doesnt reflect there talent.

I saw Gram at cdaddy last saturday and ask him he he respected rl, he paused for 10 sec before answering yes in a shakey vocie,

I dont think the players repect the coach

we don't have amazing talent.

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

The thing is most of our list does have amazing talent, look at lenny, both sams, ball, dal, harvey.

However, rl has them playing in a way that doesnt reflect there talent.

I saw Gram at cdaddy last saturday and ask him he he respected rl, he paused for 10 sec before answering yes in a shakey vocie,

I dont think the players repect the coach

We have about 10 players of afl quality not enough

[Gilbert=Legend]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

The thing is most of our list does have amazing talent, look at lenny, both sams, ball, dal, harvey.

However, rl has them playing in a way that doesnt reflect there talent.

I saw Gram at cdaddy last saturday and ask him he he respected rl, he paused for 10 sec before answering yes in a shakey vocie,

I dont think the players repect the coach

We have about 10 players of afl quality not enough

hence why i said 'most' had talent

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

Our list is pathetic.

We can give all the effort u want but if the talent isn't there the talent isn't there.

The majority of players on our list wouldn't get a game for any dscent team.

The thing is most of our list does have amazing talent, look at lenny, both sams, ball, dal, harvey.

However, rl has them playing in a way that doesnt reflect there talent.

I saw Gram at cdaddy last saturday and ask him he he respected rl, he paused for 10 sec before answering yes in a shakey vocie,

I dont think the players repect the coach

We have about 10 players of afl quality not enough

hence why i said 'most' had talent

10 out of 40? i wouldn't say that's most

[Animal Enclosure]

We have a much better list than our performances suggest. All this overrated list is rubbish spewed out by a totally inept coaching panel who has overseen very good quality AFL players become very ordinary AFL players.

Sure our list has a number of holes (as do most clubs) but we also have the vast majority of senior players in career worst form. Who takes the blame for that?

Senior players have no pressure to perform as they never get dropped.

Young players are never allowed the opportunity to get significant game time or a run of games or languish in the twos.

Fringe players are either in favour & never get dropped or are in & out every single week if they're not love children.

Tonight has shown once again that there is very little team spirit & confidence is almost gone. Next week could be a shattering experience.

[battye]

GT was able to get a lot out of the list because he instilled passion into the players. We took risks by playing fast paced footy.

Ross Lyon wouldn't know passion if it smashed him in groin. That's the mistake we made by not bringing in someone who cared about the St Kilda footy club. What does it matter to RL if we win or not? He's going to get paid for 10 years regardless, right?

[SainterX]

Senior players have no pressure to perform as they never get dropped.

So what pressure does Ross have given he has been endorsed for the long term by our president?
At least the players have grown up at St Kilda, Ross grew up accepting loss after loss at Fitzroy.
The players have a lot more heart in this club then Ross ever will.

[Teflon]

We have a much better list than our performances suggest.

Your in la la land mate wake up.....what you gonna tell me - Kosi just hasnt come good this year?or Raph Clarke is having a "down year"???

All this overrated list is rubbish spewed out by a totally inept coaching panel who has overseen very good quality AFL players become very ordinary AFL players.

Show me a quote where Lyons come out and said the list is overrated? or your just into making it up?

Sure our list has a number of holes (as do most clubs) but we also have the vast majority of senior players in career worst form. Who takes the blame for that?

Our list has a number of holes? We have players tonight touching the ball 5 times and you reckon we have "some" holes........we have 2 mids who WIN their own footy (and are having great seasons in hayes/Ball) and nothing else to come through there and you reckon its just a small "list glitch"???? get a clue.

Senior players have no pressure to perform as they never get dropped.

Agreed. And why is that? Whats better in the twos weve been developing over the last 4 yrs? Gwilt?

Young players are never allowed the opportunity to get significant game time or a run of games or languish in the twos.

That would explain why Gwilt, Fergusons have played so much under the previous "develop kids at all costs regimes?"

Fringe players are either in favour & never get dropped or are in & out every single week if they're not love children.

Drivel more nonsense...

Tonight has shown once again that there is very little team spirit & confidence is almost gone. Next week could be a shattering experience.

Tonight has shown we are a 6 goal worse side than Sydney in Sydney. Thats about right.

[CaughtLockettBowledWinmar]

The skill level is awful. Switched to watch Adelaide and Hawthorn when I got sick of the same old errors. No St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can. Milne's the worst.

[matrix]

The skill level is awful. Switched to watch Adelaide and Hawthorn when I got sick of the same old errors. No St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can. Milne's the worst.

not true
bj can and does quite regularly

[Teflon]

The skill level is awful. Switched to watch Adelaide and Hawthorn when I got sick of the same old errors. No St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can. Milne's the worst.

not true
bj can and does quite regularly

Beauty. Weve got 1. Next?

[markinUSA]

Don't switch teams!

And for goodness sake... why those two teams?
Adelaide! (our opponents in the GF in 1997)
and Hawthorn (our opponents in the GF in 1971).
No, no, no!

Think of all the reasons why you decided to go for the Saints in the beginning. Remember those things.

I'm not saying you can't be angry, or disappointed... and you have a right to those feelings. But we're like a (disfunctional) family... you get very angry but you are always one of the family.

[matrix]

next what?

"no St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can" was the quote.
bj was the answer in correction (its true)

there is no next...

[Teflon]

next what?

"no St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can" was the quote.
bj was the answer in correction (its true)

there is no next...

no point well made.

We have 1 player who can hit a team mate from 50. You're right. My apologies.

[JeffDunne]

You're right.

[Teflon]

You're right.

hello...I thought ewed run out of pics?

Must stay up late and keep Dodg amused at your place for hours with those....

[matrix]

next what?

"no St Kildas player can hit chests 50m away like those teams can" was the quote.
bj was the answer in correction (its true)

there is no next...

no point well made.

We have 1 player who can hit a team mate from 50. You're right. My apologies.

exactly....
nowhere did i say i was happy about it

[duckduckduckgoose]

Ross Lyon wouldn't know passion if it smashed him in groin.

hahaha well put.

[bergsone]

You're right.

hello...I thought ewed run out of pics?

Must stay up late and keep Dodg amused at your place for hours with those....

Looks like a pic from 66 grand final, anyway bj 50 meters Harvey 30 meters,yes now Im struggling