Maybe as Supporters we over rate our list
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Maybe as Supporters we over rate our list
Perhaps where we are on the ladder reflects our ability as a group. We have beaten below us, lost to those above ( syd exception) and split even with us - Carlton , Port.
Strengths - hard midfield and power forwards
Weaknesses - Lack of Pace, Lack of def accountability , injury prone players
If you had to rate our top 10 this year it shows something. In no particular order:
Reiwoldt
Hayes
Harvey
S Fisher
Goddard
Ball
then it gets harder
Dal Santo
Milne
Hudghton
Raffle the next spot -you could almost argue Blake or M Gardiner
As you can see it falls away significantly
Not stepped up as we needed:
Montagna ( inconsistant)
Gram ( see montagna)
Fiora ( fallen back into old habits)
X Clarke ( injury prone)
Maguire ( potential to be next D Schwartz come back as a servicable player but never reach the heights that once appeared possible)
R Clarke( I think needs a go forward and confidence)
Kosi ( probably harsh as delivery so important . Every game he gets long term is better)
Improved as would have hoped:
Armitage
C Jones
Geary
Ferguson ( better as a forward)
Will always be player 20-25
Birrs
Rix
L Fisher
Gwilt
Recruits
King (servicable)
Schnieder( jury is out)
Dempster ( looks ok as has pace and size)
C Gardiner( got himfor nothing I guess) Always 20-25
Young and developing
McEnvoy
Allen
Connors
Howard
Bottom line our list after the top 8 hasn't stepped up. We have , inthe words of Jack Dyer a number of good ordinary players. Until some of these step up we are where our list dictates
Strengths - hard midfield and power forwards
Weaknesses - Lack of Pace, Lack of def accountability , injury prone players
If you had to rate our top 10 this year it shows something. In no particular order:
Reiwoldt
Hayes
Harvey
S Fisher
Goddard
Ball
then it gets harder
Dal Santo
Milne
Hudghton
Raffle the next spot -you could almost argue Blake or M Gardiner
As you can see it falls away significantly
Not stepped up as we needed:
Montagna ( inconsistant)
Gram ( see montagna)
Fiora ( fallen back into old habits)
X Clarke ( injury prone)
Maguire ( potential to be next D Schwartz come back as a servicable player but never reach the heights that once appeared possible)
R Clarke( I think needs a go forward and confidence)
Kosi ( probably harsh as delivery so important . Every game he gets long term is better)
Improved as would have hoped:
Armitage
C Jones
Geary
Ferguson ( better as a forward)
Will always be player 20-25
Birrs
Rix
L Fisher
Gwilt
Recruits
King (servicable)
Schnieder( jury is out)
Dempster ( looks ok as has pace and size)
C Gardiner( got himfor nothing I guess) Always 20-25
Young and developing
McEnvoy
Allen
Connors
Howard
Bottom line our list after the top 8 hasn't stepped up. We have , inthe words of Jack Dyer a number of good ordinary players. Until some of these step up we are where our list dictates
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agree Fingers
BTW do you really take up two seats? as per your location? or just can't decide?
BTW do you really take up two seats? as per your location? or just can't decide?
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Re: Maybe as Supporters we over rate our list
Your post confuses me - as do most when people talk about lists.older saint wrote:
Bottom line our list after the top 8 hasn't stepped up. We have , inthe words of Jack Dyer a number of good ordinary players. Until some of these step up we are where our list dictates
If the players on our list are capable of stepping up - then how can it be our list that it no good?
My understanding of the term 'list', is the names you have on paper.
It's based on what they've done, and what they can do based on recent form.
Our names on paper, are very, very good.
The way they are playing together is not very good. That's not the list.
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I usually have a spare if the good lady wife doesn't joint me. Otherwise I just spread my fat ass out LOL or at least put my motorbike helmet on the spare seat rather than under my seat so that pr!ck behind me doesn't keep spilling beer on it!!!saintbrat wrote:agree Fingers
BTW do you really take up two seats? as per your location? or just can't decide?
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Re: Maybe as Supporters we over rate our list
That's exactly it.rodgerfox wrote:Your post confuses me - as do most when people talk about lists.older saint wrote:
Bottom line our list after the top 8 hasn't stepped up. We have , inthe words of Jack Dyer a number of good ordinary players. Until some of these step up we are where our list dictates
If the players on our list are capable of stepping up - then how can it be our list that it no good?
My understanding of the term 'list', is the names you have on paper.
It's based on what they've done, and what they can do based on recent form.
Our names on paper, are very, very good.
The way they are playing together is not very good. That's not the list.
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its not how you rate the list its more how the list performs that matters we have a lot of potential stars who are only potential . we need some of them to get a wwake up call ala Garry Ablet Jr style and know potential gets you only soo far its effort that pushes you over the line !!!
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