Baker - Knee injury

BelfastSaint · Tue 10 Jun 2008 3:15pm

According to SEN Stephen Baker has a serious knee injury and is going to have surgery which will keep him out for at least 4 weeks ...

BelfastSaint · Tue 10 Jun 2008 3:20pm

I dont know if Baker played for Casey at the weekend but SEN reported that "its sources" revealed that Baker was not confident in his knee and didnt want to play ...

Ralphy · Post: # 583973Post **Ralphy** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 3:23pm

my opinion just rest him for the year get him right for next year

Behind Play · Tue 10 Jun 2008 4:24pm

Mark Fine, claims he hurt his knee playing for Casey and believes he is out for the year.

saintbrat · Post: # 584012Post **saintbrat** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 4:26pm

yet reports are he played till the last qur

saintsRrising · Tue 10 Jun 2008 5:39pm

Baker goes in for surgey tomorrow.

Was just announced on SEN.

Will be out for at least 4 weeks.

iwantmeseats · Tue 10 Jun 2008 6:06pm

Also reported however, he had concerns about playing but doctors told him he was ok. Result? Operation and at least a month out. Amateur hour at moorabbin returns! Or is that continues?

Otiman · Post: # 584055Post **Otiman** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 6:15pm

saintsRrising wrote:Baker goes in for surgey tomorrow.

Was just announced on SEN.

Will be out for at least 4 weeks.

Good. Should have happened weeks ago.

plugger66 · Post: # 584105Post **plugger66** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 7:31pm

Well at least the new fitness team seems to be working. X in his first game back does his hammy again and Bakes is told to play when he didnt want to. How can we blame GT for this one.

Shaggy · Post: # 584112Post **Shaggy** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 7:40pm

plugger66 wrote:Well at least the new fitness team seems to be working. X in his first game back does his hammy again and Bakes is told to play when he didnt want to. How can we blame GT for this one.

Bakes aggravated his knee going out with GT's daughter.

plugger66 · Post: # 584113Post **plugger66** » Tue 10 Jun 2008 7:41pm

Shaggy wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Well at least the new fitness team seems to be working. X in his first game back does his hammy again and Bakes is told to play when he didnt want to. How can we blame GT for this one.
Bakes aggravated his knee going out with GT's daughter.

I think you got it in one.

midas_touch · Wed 11 Jun 2008 2:07am

Whats the nature of Baker's injury?

saintbrat · Post: # 584400Post **saintbrat** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 9:25am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 72,00.html

Shoulder surgery for Saint
Sam Edmund | June 11, 2008 12:00am
STEVEN Baker will undergo surgery on his shoulder today in the latest setback to plague the St Kilda tagger. Baker suffered the shoulder injury during his comeback game for Casey Scorpions in the 39-point win against Geelong in the VFL at Casey Fields on Sunday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

A long way from his knee- although not as far as some..... but will they be checking the knee as well??????

or is this new Sam very wrong.

saintspremiers · Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:22pm

Well as far as I'm concerned that's about curtains for Baker, and perhaps X as well.

Let's just see what the big cleanout brings at the end of season....

ausfatcat · Post: # 584491Post **ausfatcat** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:26pm

saintspremiers wrote:Well as far as I'm concerned that's about curtains for Baker, and perhaps X as well.

Let's just see what the big cleanout brings at the end of season....

Doubt it for both X maybe traded thou, Baker is exactly what we need in the team at the moment hardness and commitment.

Mr Magic · Post: # 584493Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:28pm

ausfatcat wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:Well as far as I'm concerned that's about curtains for Baker, and perhaps X as well.

Let's just see what the big cleanout brings at the end of season....

Doubt it for both X maybe traded thou, Baker is exactly what we need in the team at the moment hardness and commitment.

X is only contracted for this season so for us to be in a position to trade him we will have to re-sign him to a further contract. Otherwise all we could do is delist him.

ausfatcat · Post: # 584497Post **ausfatcat** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:33pm

Mr Magic wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:Well as far as I'm concerned that's about curtains for Baker, and perhaps X as well.

Let's just see what the big cleanout brings at the end of season....

Doubt it for both X maybe traded thou, Baker is exactly what we need in the team at the moment hardness and commitment.
X is only contracted for this season so for us to be in a position to trade him we will have to re-sign him to a further contract. Otherwise all we could do is delist him.

Can still be traded without a contract, but he would have to agree.

Mr Magic · Post: # 584498Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:35pm

ausfatcat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:Well as far as I'm concerned that's about curtains for Baker, and perhaps X as well.

Let's just see what the big cleanout brings at the end of season....

Doubt it for both X maybe traded thou, Baker is exactly what we need in the team at the moment hardness and commitment.
X is only contracted for this season so for us to be in a position to trade him we will have to re-sign him to a further contract. Otherwise all we could do is delist him.

Can still be traded without a contract, but he would have to agree.

Or can choose to put himself in teh Draft as an uncontracted player and make his own deal with a Club - leaving us with nothing.

jonesy · Post: # 584508Post **jonesy** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 1:49pm

Played him in a pre season game against his wishes also,the Geelong one. What sort of a shambles are they running down there.

Clean sweep

skeptic · Post: # 584716Post **skeptic** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 8:14pm

I think Baker's finished

trade if possible

Otiman · Post: # 584717Post **Otiman** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 8:17pm

skeptic wrote:I think Baker's finished

Chris Judd still pisses his pants thinking about Bakes.

skeptic · Post: # 584727Post **skeptic** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 8:40pm

At his best, Baker's a top line tagger and semi midfielder.

He gets injured...
Remains injured and injury prone

Becomes slower... can't play on fast, small forwards

Loses fitness

Loses the ability to hurt opposition as a midfielder

His tagging declines by 10% every year as he gets older

Most probably outcome

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Baker becomes a slow injury prone tagger who's sole purpose in the team becomes to negate second rate midfielders as he can no longer keep up with the elite.

If his opponent gets on top of him... he will become a complete liability and he'll do a Jason Blake on us (keep a spot from a developing player and never actually get any better)

Saints Premiers 2008 · Wed 11 Jun 2008 8:43pm

skeptic wrote:At his best, Baker's a top line tagger and semi midfielder.

He gets injured...
Remains injured and injury prone

Becomes slower... can't play on fast, small forwards

Loses fitness

Loses the ability to hurt opposition as a midfielder

His tagging declines by 10% every year as he gets older

Most probably outcome

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Baker becomes a slow injury prone tagger who's sole purpose in the team becomes to negate second rate midfielders as he can no longer keep up with the elite.

If his opponent gets on top of him... he will become a complete liability and he'll do a Jason Blake on us (keep a spot from a developing player and never actually get any better)

this is his first year of injury....he has had a bad run over the first half of this year due to suspension and injury

since when has he been injury prone...there is no correlation between knee's and shoulder's....how can that be injury prone???its not even close to similar parts of the body

so he is injury prone how???

skeptic · Post: # 584739Post **skeptic** » Wed 11 Jun 2008 8:59pm

maybe i'm confusing his periods of suspension with injury but it seems to me that he's been in and out of the team with odd niggles for the last season and a half...

not true?

Saints Premiers 2008 · Wed 11 Jun 2008 9:04pm

skeptic wrote:maybe i'm confusing his periods of suspension with injury but it seems to me that he's been in and out of the team with odd niggles for the last season and a half...

not true?

i dont think it is...from memory it his suspensions that make his outs look worse

anyone??? from memory i think he hasnt been in the wars over the journey (injury)....from memory...