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I don't remember Ian Stewart... I did see him play, but I was 4 at the time he finished with the Saints. I remember Ross Smith much more... I don't remember the exact time, whether it was before 1972 (when I was 6... I remember being really young at the time, so it could be this... but he made a comeback in 1975, so it could have been then). I got his autograph a few times, after the games. He was my favourite then).
Trevor Barker was special... growing up I wanted to be No.1 for the Saints. I think putting a player's number on your guersey is a big thing when you go to games. He was the first and only one I ever did that for.
And when he played for the Saints, I thought Plugger walked on water. I actually had a big section of my room devoted to him, and a big photo, framed in a hand-made woollen frame made in St. Kilda colours (thanks Mum!).
I loved Nicky too, and Stewart Loewe and Nathan Burke were very special too.
But ... for longevity and loyalty, marvellous play, a spirit of fairness that's never been matched, and a humility that still amazes me... it's Harves all the way.
Trevor Barker was special... growing up I wanted to be No.1 for the Saints. I think putting a player's number on your guersey is a big thing when you go to games. He was the first and only one I ever did that for.
And when he played for the Saints, I thought Plugger walked on water. I actually had a big section of my room devoted to him, and a big photo, framed in a hand-made woollen frame made in St. Kilda colours (thanks Mum!).
I loved Nicky too, and Stewart Loewe and Nathan Burke were very special too.
But ... for longevity and loyalty, marvellous play, a spirit of fairness that's never been matched, and a humility that still amazes me... it's Harves all the way.
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Robert Harvey stands ALONE as the saints great player........on games played alone.......If you cut his career in two....
Harvey #1 - 0-183 games
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Harvey #2 - 184-366 games
both of those players would be in our top 6.......add them up, and they give you the best by a distance....he is FREAK!
with
Lockett - 180 odd games
Stewart
Baldock
Winmar
Barker
R.Smith
Loewe
Burke
Reiwoldt
Lots of other great players.....these are the BEST
Harvey #1 - 0-183 games
&
Harvey #2 - 184-366 games
both of those players would be in our top 6.......add them up, and they give you the best by a distance....he is FREAK!
with
Lockett - 180 odd games
Stewart
Baldock
Winmar
Barker
R.Smith
Loewe
Burke
Reiwoldt
Lots of other great players.....these are the BEST
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Agree with Baldock then Stewart , but I would like to point out that although Balldock was five foot eleven at CHF that he was about the normal height for CHF . In those days ruckmen were only about the six foot mark, big Jack Dyer would not have been much more than 6 ft 1 inch. Players were much smaller on average in those daysbassoon wrote:Baldock by a mile. Only 5ft 11 (shorter than Harvey), and played at Centre Half Forward. The best ground player in my opinion, but could also take screamers. Captain coached Tasmania at the age of 23. One of the best half dozen players ever.
Stewart next. Think of Dal Santo, but this guy was totally fearless.
Lockett had the most ability of any of them. Never fully exploited his potential, but what we saw was enough to put him in the elite of the elite.
Probably being harsh on Harves, but I rate him at No 4. Not as skillful as the three above him, but the guy has a heart bigger than Phar Lap.
Not so sure after the big four, but from the players I've seen, in no particular order:
Verdun Howell
Cowboy Neale
John McIntosh
Carl Ditterich
Trevor Barker
Nicky Winmar
Only Harvs in our current list makes the top 10 IMO.
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I agree I closely followed him from start to finish with us and ive never seen a more awesome , unstoppable powerhouse like this guy. Quality full backs would shake their heads in frustration trying everything to stop him repeatedly taking marks that made them look stupid. One out he was almost unbeatable. No player had a presence like him.jonesy wrote:Lockett......the rest don't compare,which isn't a blight on them,just that Tony was the greatest player of all time,for any club.
It's interesting... on reflection I realize that I left Roo out. In terms of best and fairest awards, he certainly is in the elite. But... he hasn't inspired me, personally, the way Lockett did. Part of that, I think, is because I could see the others play, but I've been in the US for six years and I've only watched Roo play once. Though he played a great game, it's not the same watching people on TV as opposed to seeing them in person.
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I love LockettWinmar7Fan wrote:I agree I closely followed him from start to finish with us and ive never seen a more awesome , unstoppable powerhouse like this guy. Quality full backs would shake their heads in frustration trying everything to stop him repeatedly taking marks that made them look stupid. One out he was almost unbeatable. No player had a presence like him.jonesy wrote:Lockett......the rest don't compare,which isn't a blight on them,just that Tony was the greatest player of all time,for any club.
So much so,one day when I return to Melbourne to live,I'm going to have a Lockett party for fellow Tony fans! We'll all bring along Lockett highlights,and drink to the early hours talking about the great man. Quite possibly could be the greatest party ever
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With special guest apperance tony lockett?jonesy wrote:I love LockettWinmar7Fan wrote:I agree I closely followed him from start to finish with us and ive never seen a more awesome , unstoppable powerhouse like this guy. Quality full backs would shake their heads in frustration trying everything to stop him repeatedly taking marks that made them look stupid. One out he was almost unbeatable. No player had a presence like him.jonesy wrote:Lockett......the rest don't compare,which isn't a blight on them,just that Tony was the greatest player of all time,for any club.
So much so,one day when I return to Melbourne to live,I'm going to have a Lockett party for fellow Tony fans! We'll all bring along Lockett highlights,and drink to the early hours talking about the great man. Quite possibly could be the greatest party ever
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Yeah we used to keep going behind the goals and change ends every quarter week in week out for years . Hardly missed a match of the Winmar / Lockett show.jonesy wrote:I love LockettWinmar7Fan wrote:I agree I closely followed him from start to finish with us and ive never seen a more awesome , unstoppable powerhouse like this guy. Quality full backs would shake their heads in frustration trying everything to stop him repeatedly taking marks that made them look stupid. One out he was almost unbeatable. No player had a presence like him.jonesy wrote:Lockett......the rest don't compare,which isn't a blight on them,just that Tony was the greatest player of all time,for any club.
So much so,one day when I return to Melbourne to live,I'm going to have a Lockett party for fellow Tony fans! We'll all bring along Lockett highlights,and drink to the early hours talking about the great man. Quite possibly could be the greatest party ever
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Plugger, because he did it week in week out in a dud team. He would have been even better in a better team.
Harvey next, because he just keeps giving and he doesn't know any other way.
Baldock, would have rated him higher if he was around longer.
Stewart, sheer brilliance but jumped ship.
McIntosh, cruelly cut down in his prime.
Ditterich, because I was with East Brighton when he was there and he even frightened the s*** out of his teammates.
Harvey next, because he just keeps giving and he doesn't know any other way.
Baldock, would have rated him higher if he was around longer.
Stewart, sheer brilliance but jumped ship.
McIntosh, cruelly cut down in his prime.
Ditterich, because I was with East Brighton when he was there and he even frightened the s*** out of his teammates.
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I doubt the great man would ever comeLENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:With special guest apperance tony lockett?jonesy wrote:I love LockettWinmar7Fan wrote:I agree I closely followed him from start to finish with us and ive never seen a more awesome , unstoppable powerhouse like this guy. Quality full backs would shake their heads in frustration trying everything to stop him repeatedly taking marks that made them look stupid. One out he was almost unbeatable. No player had a presence like him.jonesy wrote:Lockett......the rest don't compare,which isn't a blight on them,just that Tony was the greatest player of all time,for any club.
So much so,one day when I return to Melbourne to live,I'm going to have a Lockett party for fellow Tony fans! We'll all bring along Lockett highlights,and drink to the early hours talking about the great man. Quite possibly could be the greatest party ever
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I remember when I was 11 it was organised for me to meet him after training in round 6 1991. Dad raced me out from the Moorabbin squash courts and low and behold in the fading darkness the messiah was sitting on his car waiting for me. He stood up and put his hand forward to shake mine and said "G'day Benny,how are ya mate?". I went to reply but nothing came out??? I was literally awestruck.
The day he ran out against us and I had to boo him was almost the worst day of my life. I'm sorry Tony...
Seriously - Baldock was great......but did he, in 113 games, have the same impact as Robert Harvey over 21 years........and 366 games....FFS Harvey has about 50 odd BOG's
two things
Baldock was a 5'11" CHF in an era, when Ruckman were 6'1" to 6'3"......Verdun Howell was a 5'11" Full Back......cannot compare era sizes....John Nicholls (185) was shorter than Lenny Hayes (186)...
Robert Harvey - not skilled
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.....he has the cleanes hands of almost any player ever......carrries the footy, and rarely misses a target.......possibly the best kick to a fwd I have seen...
two things
Baldock was a 5'11" CHF in an era, when Ruckman were 6'1" to 6'3"......Verdun Howell was a 5'11" Full Back......cannot compare era sizes....John Nicholls (185) was shorter than Lenny Hayes (186)...
Robert Harvey - not skilled
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lockett's the best player i've seen (from any club), so i'd have to say him.
after that it gets hard.
stewart must have been fantastic. dad still raves about him.
baldock reportedly was some sort of a magician.
and you have to factor in No. 35 ... one of the all-time greats.
that's without mentioning winmar and barker (an under-rated champion).
after that it gets hard.
stewart must have been fantastic. dad still raves about him.
baldock reportedly was some sort of a magician.
and you have to factor in No. 35 ... one of the all-time greats.
that's without mentioning winmar and barker (an under-rated champion).