Gee, and I thought I was negative!
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Gee, and I thought I was negative!
There is no doubt that footy assumes a greater role in some people's lives than others. Clearly, I am one of those. Sport, in any form, represents some of the baser instincts of humans. But once when killing by the the most gruesome means satiated human desire for identification and superiority, sport now represents the most aggressive aspects of the popular culture. The reactions of some supporters belies this interpretation, but as far as the players are concerned, whilst 100% effort on the field is required, it's handshakes all round after the siren.
Having said that, and who knows why I said it, following your team is a matter of passion rather than intellectual pursuit. I follow the Saints because my father did. I was lucky in that I started to follow the Saints in 1960 as a nine year old, and I had to wait all of 5 years to see a grand final appearance, and all of another year to see a premiership.
But, over the years, I have become more negative with respect to the footy attributes of players in the red, white and black. I never (OK, rarely) criticise the umpires. The call of "Ball" when an oppostion player touches the footfall is ridiculous. I wonder how Luke feels having his surname called so often in a game. I don't criticise opposition players because - well frankly - I don't give a stuff about them. I get upset when my players make "uncharacteristic " mistakes. I am less likely to react if Jason Blake (a favorite whipping boy of this board) fails to spin on a sixpence and kick great goal. I will raise my voice if (say) Nick Dal Santo handballs to someone running next to him who could, not in a century of Sundays, kick the ball as well as him. This is a triumph of " process" against brains in my opinion.
Having said that, and I appreciate that almost everyone gave up reading this post ten minutes ago, I reckon that players always try the best they can, AND, so do the coaching staff. The interaction is the important part - especially the skills and fitness area. Getting this right seems a genius decision if you win the flag and a hopeless decision if you dont. Last year, every parrot and her dog thought Mark Thompson should be dropped as coach of the Pussies after round 7. Sio much for parrot opinion!
Finally, a word of advice, that I could take as well. Look at what the players CAN do rather what they CAN'T.
Having said that, and who knows why I said it, following your team is a matter of passion rather than intellectual pursuit. I follow the Saints because my father did. I was lucky in that I started to follow the Saints in 1960 as a nine year old, and I had to wait all of 5 years to see a grand final appearance, and all of another year to see a premiership.
But, over the years, I have become more negative with respect to the footy attributes of players in the red, white and black. I never (OK, rarely) criticise the umpires. The call of "Ball" when an oppostion player touches the footfall is ridiculous. I wonder how Luke feels having his surname called so often in a game. I don't criticise opposition players because - well frankly - I don't give a stuff about them. I get upset when my players make "uncharacteristic " mistakes. I am less likely to react if Jason Blake (a favorite whipping boy of this board) fails to spin on a sixpence and kick great goal. I will raise my voice if (say) Nick Dal Santo handballs to someone running next to him who could, not in a century of Sundays, kick the ball as well as him. This is a triumph of " process" against brains in my opinion.
Having said that, and I appreciate that almost everyone gave up reading this post ten minutes ago, I reckon that players always try the best they can, AND, so do the coaching staff. The interaction is the important part - especially the skills and fitness area. Getting this right seems a genius decision if you win the flag and a hopeless decision if you dont. Last year, every parrot and her dog thought Mark Thompson should be dropped as coach of the Pussies after round 7. Sio much for parrot opinion!
Finally, a word of advice, that I could take as well. Look at what the players CAN do rather what they CAN'T.
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life is so much easier if you look for positives rather than negatives .
life is so much easier if you look for positives rather than negatives .
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I, possibly as others might, have at times questioned my love of the Saints; sure, after having always passionately wanted that flag, they almost also always have provided frustration.
Well when I think of it, back in the dark ages (late 70's - early 80's), it didn't seem to matter as much, we weren't expected to win one then, so things weren't all that bad; but since then, things have changed, we have been competetive now for a fairly lengthy time and remember, during this time there was the matter of changing the "culture" at the club too.
Things have changed, the club has changed, but we have been frustrated for so long now that every stumble seems like blowing off the cliff.
All we can do is be patient, bear with it fellow Sainters, our luck will change and hopefully, soon
Well when I think of it, back in the dark ages (late 70's - early 80's), it didn't seem to matter as much, we weren't expected to win one then, so things weren't all that bad; but since then, things have changed, we have been competetive now for a fairly lengthy time and remember, during this time there was the matter of changing the "culture" at the club too.
Things have changed, the club has changed, but we have been frustrated for so long now that every stumble seems like blowing off the cliff.
All we can do is be patient, bear with it fellow Sainters, our luck will change and hopefully, soon
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this club has made me depressed and negative, my poor missus.
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i vent my spleen between 6 & 7pm each night 24/7 to mickyb (fellow forumite).
I wish i barracked for a franchise, eg. Victory, crows, storm etc. watch the game and forget about it.
I bleed red white & black.
My kids will also.
It is sad when my three year old, says Dad a good magpie ids a dead one. Boy I wished he barracked for Man. U. that way he will see the holy grail.
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Mate, don't it just hurt sometimes? but then I take solace from the Sydney/South Melb. experience 70 odd years!! FFS! people lived & died without the Holy Grail, but like their supporters must have felt, won't it be just the most amazing thing when it happens? won't it?choowy wrote:this club has made me depressed and negative, my poor missus.
i vent my spleen between 6 & 7pm each night 24/7 to mickyb (fellow forumite).
I wish i barracked for a franchise, eg. Victory, crows, storm etc. watch the game and forget about it.
I bleed red white & black.
My kids will also.
It is sad when my three year old, says Dad a good magpie ids a dead one. Boy I wished he barracked for Man. U. that way he will see the holy grail.
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Re: Gee, and I thought I was negative!
How do you go when you realize the player can't do much at all?perfectionist wrote:
Finally, a word of advice, that I could take as well. Look at what the players CAN do rather what they CAN'T.
choowy wrote:this club has made me depressed and negative, my poor missus.
i vent my spleen between 6 & 7pm each night 24/7 to mickyb (fellow forumite).
I wish i barracked for a franchise, eg. Victory, crows, storm etc. watch the game and forget about it.
I bleed red white & black.
My kids will also.
It is sad when my three year old, says Dad a good magpie ids a dead one. Boy I wished he barracked for Man. U. that way he will see the holy grail.
today was a mixed day for me....my dear old mum is gravely ill in hospital....but tonight whilst i was visiting her, my six year old grand daughter turned up with her mum.....during the course of a conversation ..said granddaughter professed her love for the saints....and her grand-nan of course......sort of cheered me up...... :
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Hope she gets better soon stinger and it's always great to hear we have another converted saintstinger wrote:choowy wrote:this club has made me depressed and negative, my poor missus.
i vent my spleen between 6 & 7pm each night 24/7 to mickyb (fellow forumite).
I wish i barracked for a franchise, eg. Victory, crows, storm etc. watch the game and forget about it.
I bleed red white & black.
My kids will also.
It is sad when my three year old, says Dad a good magpie ids a dead one. Boy I wished he barracked for Man. U. that way he will see the holy grail.
today was a mixed day for me....my dear old mum is gravely ill in hospital....but tonight whilst i was visiting her, my six year old grand daughter turned up with her mum.....during the course of a conversation ..said granddaughter professed her love for the saints....and her grand-nan of course......sort of cheered me up...... :
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unlikely mate...but thanks for your kind thoughts......i'm amending my will for the little one though.....LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Hope she gets better soon stinger and it's always great to hear we have another converted saintstinger wrote:choowy wrote:this club has made me depressed and negative, my poor missus.
i vent my spleen between 6 & 7pm each night 24/7 to mickyb (fellow forumite).
I wish i barracked for a franchise, eg. Victory, crows, storm etc. watch the game and forget about it.
I bleed red white & black.
My kids will also.
It is sad when my three year old, says Dad a good magpie ids a dead one. Boy I wished he barracked for Man. U. that way he will see the holy grail.
today was a mixed day for me....my dear old mum is gravely ill in hospital....but tonight whilst i was visiting her, my six year old grand daughter turned up with her mum.....during the course of a conversation ..said granddaughter professed her love for the saints....and her grand-nan of course......sort of cheered me up...... :
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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all the best stinger
what seems best can be hard to take
what seems best can be hard to take
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yep.....been through all of that....she had a massive stroke ....thanks mate....saintbrat wrote:all the best stinger
what seems best can be hard to take
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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