Goose..fractured Metatarsal - explained

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To the top wrote:I recall Miles game in the pre-season comp. - a dashing, rebounding display as a mid-sized defender.

I also note he has been on the injured list since, now listed as close to a return.

I would be looking at him before McQualter, who would, in my opinion, only add more of what we have got to the mid-field list.

Maguire upsets our balance in defence dramatically, so we are looking to replicate Sam Fisher on a half back flank = Miles on what he showed?
Not discarding what you have said....

...but Miles is still say 2 games away from playing for Casey...

He has not played for 7 to 9 weeks....

You would want to see him play, gain fitness and match practice, and then assess him.

That is at least 6 weeks away...perhaps more.


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Post: # 561441Post 4ever_saint »

i guess this is probably for the best, re: his form, will allow him to have a proper break and attempt a full pre-season injury-free. i just hope he doesnt give it away before then. would be a shame as, when he is in form, he is an excellent player and is still young.


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Post: # 561453Post saintm »

Have watched both Channel 10 & 9 news services tonight and both have stated that it is the same foot that was injured last year.

Can anyone clear this up as the info on here seems to suggest it is his other foot.


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Post: # 561471Post saintspremiers »

bad luck for Goose once again.

IMO perhaps his best option is getting a trade to the new Gold Coast club and hope that the warmer weather is better for his dodgy body and can be a half decent footballer again.

Certainly playing in the cooler climes of Melbourne on the hard TD surface can't be a good thing for his longer term footy ambitions.


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saintm wrote:Have watched both Channel 10 & 9 news services tonight and both have stated that it is the same foot that was injured last year.

Can anyone clear this up as the info on here seems to suggest it is his other foot.
Ok...here is the latest...


It is the same foot that Maguire broke last year but a different bone.

Source : http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/ ... ason-47860


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Post: # 561481Post saintm »

Thanks for that saintsRrising.


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Post: # 561484Post lovin_dal_santo »

Really do love that guy, heart breaking to see him suffer ANOTHER season ending injury. Just hoping he comes back stronger and better because he really is worth it. Good luck Goose :(


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the last thing ST Kilda needs is for our 'depth' players to be elevated ahead of promising youngsters.
Birss is borderline, Ferguson is very borderline IMO, L Fisher and Blake and C Gardiner worthy as depth players, but Fiora, McQualter, Rix, Dempster, Jones (and last year Watts and Brooks) are not good enough, and it's frightening to consider that at exactly the wrong time for St Kilda, given our recruiting record, we're in the position where we don't want to be when the draft is taken away by the 2 new teams. They MUST promote young guys from the rookie list, and start playing Geary, Eddy, Allen, even McEvoy if they need, ahead of the 'depthers.' If we come out of this year with Eddy, Armitage, Geary, Gwilt, maybe Allen having a decent first year out, we'll look a lot better than if we swung Fiora, Rix, Dempster in and out of the team. I also can't see Maguire playing again, unfortunately. the injuries are too serious, and it will have been well over 2 years since he last played a decent match, by the end of this year. Sadly, next year we look like being without Hudghton and Goose, as well as Harvey. It's time to consider now as well as look forward - a rehashed 27 year old can bring something for a year or two (King, Gardiner) if they proved good enough.
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Post: # 561509Post perfectionist »

It would be nice to know how and when he broke it. In particular, whether it was another injury related to his broken leg, which I think is what they said about his first foot problem.


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Post: # 561552Post 4ever_saint »

i just hope goose doesnt follow the same suit as luke penny, who retired at 24 due to a chronic knee injury- as we all know he is a very capable player (though there are a lot of people on this forum who have been saying otherwise recently and are looking to get rid of him).

goose is contracted till end of 2009, so unless he decides to call it quits himself, i think he may give it a go next year and leave then if his body breaks down again. also, it should be remembered, he is sitting on 99 games; and i imagine it would be important, as a player, to reach the 100 mark. just a thought.


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Very sad news for Goose. :cry: :cry: Despite what some flogs on here might suggest, when fit and firing is a very good player.

Noted in the injury list that Luke Van Rheenan is also now listed as out for the year, which makes the 2 players out for the year that Finey referred to last night.

Good news for Bakes, as with the right role (midfield tag) is very capable.


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True Believer wrote:Very sad news for Goose. :cry: :cry: Despite what some flogs on here might suggest, when fit and firing is a very good player.

Noted in the injury list that Luke Van Rheenan is also now listed as out for the year, which makes the 2 players out for the year that Finey referred to last night.

Good news for Bakes, as with the right role (midfield tag) is very capable.
Except didnt he say one was Bakes. Not sure Finey would worry about a guy who has played about 5 senior games for Scorps in 2 years.


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No didn't mention names as I recall, just said that 2 Saints were out for the year.

But I am happy to be corrected if I've got my wires crossed.

They would also be guilty of direct and deliberate lies if they are saying jarred knee only and expected to play if he is definitely out for season. That hasn't been the case so far they have just generally listed guys for 1 or 2 weeks when it was going to be 3 or 4.

ALso don't see any value in denying a season ending injury???


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plugger66 wrote:
True Believer wrote:Very sad news for Goose. :cry: :cry: Despite what some flogs on here might suggest, when fit and firing is a very good player.

Noted in the injury list that Luke Van Rheenan is also now listed as out for the year, which makes the 2 players out for the year that Finey referred to last night.

Good news for Bakes, as with the right role (midfield tag) is very capable.
Except didnt he say one was Bakes. Not sure Finey would worry about a guy who has played about 5 senior games for Scorps in 2 years.
And not only did he say it was Bakes...but said he hada PCL and would be out for 10+ weeks.

So by any defintion he was 100% wrong...


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Post: # 561593Post saints11 »

[quote="saintsRrising"]Roo 3 to 4 weeks.


Injury listed as a strained knee.


From Club Website:

Injury Update
Jayden Attard – ACL reconstruction, 6-8 weeks.
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From the Herald Scum
Are some St.Kilda players still suffering from the Thomas era? - i.e. the worst player management that we have seen for a while. I think Thomas absolutley torched the best list in the league and they are still paying for it. Amazing that he now sits on the sidelines sniping at the new coach, who, is doing a credible job.

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Moccha wrote:Posted by: Peter of Hawthorn 4:31pm today
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Post: # 561612Post Enrico_Misso »

quote - Luke van Rheenen – Foot, season

When did that happen ?


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Enrico_Misso wrote:quote - Luke van Rheenen – Foot, season

When did that happen ?
last week the report was "Luke van Rheenen – mid foot ligament injury, 2-3 weeks "
must have reassessed after no recovery- he has been out of the casey team for a few weeks


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saintm wrote:Have watched both Channel 10 & 9 news services tonight and both have stated that it is the same foot that was injured last year.

Can anyone clear this up as the info on here seems to suggest it is his other foot.
Ok...here is the latest...


It is the same foot that Maguire broke last year but a different bone.

Source : http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/ ... ason-47860
And further:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html

Matt Maguire's career has suffered another crushing blow, with scans revealing a season-ending break in his battered left foot. The St Kilda defender will have surgery to repair a fracture to the fourth metatarsal, one of the long bones that connects the middle of the foot to the base of the toes. Despite earlier reports that Maguire's latest problem was on his right side, the Saints yesterday confirmed the break was in the same foot that has hobbled him in the past.


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I have had the injury only recently. It mainly occurs when the ankle is severely turned.
These days they usually do not put the foot in plaster.
I just hope this does not signify a weakness in his foot structure. Special boots (are they really boots these days???) may be the answer. :lol:


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Duggie wrote:
I. Special boots (are they really boots these days???) may be the answer.:
By coincidence such boots (the first such) are just coming onto the market. AFL clubs are trialling them now.

Public will not have access till after August though...


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Goose - done everything right in his recovery, injury related to something inherent in his body maybe nerve input problem where he's not feeling the loads put on his foot.

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saintsRrising wrote:
As an aside..having looked at this for a few years...these injuries can be minimised by wearing a boot that protects the bones.

But you will have to wait till later in the year to see it....unless you happen to note the boot that the Victory goalkeeper is wearing. :wink:
Well the new boot is almost here...is launched in England next month..

It protects against metatarsal injuries in two ways.

But the boots main claim to fame is that it delivers more power to the ball and increases kicking accuracy.

Nice colors too!!!

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http://www.footy-boots.com/new-concave- ... oots-4559/


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