Blake dropped at last
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Blake dropped at last
I having nothing personal against Jason Blake. He works hard, has a big heart, but he really is not up to AFL top team standard. He turns the ball over and just doesnt get enough of it either. I thought he would have been dropped the week before but hey must have given him one more chance which he did not take and they have finally dropped him. I have been a bit down this week as i honestly think we may be in trouble this week against the tigers. We are not playing terribly but seem to be missing a bit of spirit. At the moment I feel a bit like we need to bottle GTs ability to get the player firing week in week out playing for eachother and being competitive with Lyons tactics and knowledge of the game. G in is a worry. Didnt get near it last week whereas the tigers dont bring bowden back in after he has played very well since being dropped a few weeks back. Think we will win now as there is no blake and no fiora will sleep well tongiht. Thoughts
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my thoughts...you are an idiot.
blake is a top 25 player at the club and he doesnt need to prove anything to you idiots who continue to hang s*** on him.
the coaching staff are aware of his importance, and limitations, and he has still played more often than not.
either support the team and its players, or go follow carlton.
blake is a top 25 player at the club and he doesnt need to prove anything to you idiots who continue to hang s*** on him.
the coaching staff are aware of his importance, and limitations, and he has still played more often than not.
either support the team and its players, or go follow carlton.
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personally I agree with the op
I've got nothing against Jason Blake... and i acknowledge that he is an infinitely more talented player than I will ever be and that he doesn't need to prove himself to me
i also acknowledge that this forum is really more about forumites expressing their opinions rather than serving the club in any which way.
IMO Jason Blake doesn't offer enough to be in the team... in the team as a defensive stopper which he is only ok at... slow, doesn't win a lot of ball, poor disposal, not a great spoiler.
Would rather have Raph in the team as a defender, McEvoy in the team as a ruck, and ne1 in the team ahead of him as a forward
I've got nothing against Jason Blake... and i acknowledge that he is an infinitely more talented player than I will ever be and that he doesn't need to prove himself to me
i also acknowledge that this forum is really more about forumites expressing their opinions rather than serving the club in any which way.
IMO Jason Blake doesn't offer enough to be in the team... in the team as a defensive stopper which he is only ok at... slow, doesn't win a lot of ball, poor disposal, not a great spoiler.
Would rather have Raph in the team as a defender, McEvoy in the team as a ruck, and ne1 in the team ahead of him as a forward
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I would like to know what 'idiots' you are referring to? As only the OP prior to your comments had expressed their agreement with the selection...fonz_#15 wrote:my thoughts...you are an idiot.
blake is a top 25 player at the club and he doesnt need to prove anything to you idiots who continue to hang s*** on him.
the coaching staff are aware of his importance, and limitations, and he has still played more often than not.
either support the team and its players, or go follow carlton.
And I would think you would find that Blake is just outside the Top 25 players at the club if you go by the selection table.
22 players + 3 Emergencies = 25 Total.
Blake isn't part of that equation.
So in summary,
-You are defending an accusation that doesn't really exist as nobody has actually 'hung s***' on Blake personally in this thread. Are you implying that he doesn't make mistakes, and doesn't cause turnovers?
-And most importantly you are using incorrect facts/made up analysis to support your argument.
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But JB is one of the few athletes at the Saints who has the endurance capacity which RL's game plan requires.skeptic wrote:personally I agree with the op
I've got nothing against Jason Blake... and i acknowledge that he is an infinitely more talented player than I will ever be and that he doesn't need to prove himself to me
i also acknowledge that this forum is really more about forumites expressing their opinions rather than serving the club in any which way.
IMO Jason Blake doesn't offer enough to be in the team... in the team as a defensive stopper which he is only ok at... slow, doesn't win a lot of ball, poor disposal, not a great spoiler...
In between time we have burnt off alot of explosive/non endurance players during RL's reign. And it is obviously continuing. But I would never underestimate some-one like JB who can run 15 kms stop and start in the game.
JB doesn't have the skill set of X but he certainly has more endurance and runs out the game much harder.
Personally I think X is more likely to win us a premiership than JB. But until RL thinks the same and changes the game plan accordingly to suit less endurance athletes, than JB is actualy amongst our top because he is doing what the coach asks whilst the others simply are not capable of doing it (IMO).
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Interesting that many forumites have been roasting RL for not being attacking enough, playing too defensive a game plan etc.......
But this week he drops two players who are mainly taggers or defensive....but no praise for the more attacking 22 now assembled????
But this week he drops two players who are mainly taggers or defensive....but no praise for the more attacking 22 now assembled????
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Lol ... is Fish really a tagger?saintsRrising wrote:Interesting that many forumites have been roasting RL for not being attacking enough, playing too defensive a game plan etc.......
But this week he drops two players who are mainly taggers or defensive....but no praise for the more attacking 22 now assembled????
Is Mini really a tagger?
Is Vossy really a forward?
Is Kosi really a forward?
Is Brooksy really a forward?
Interesting questions but the obvious answer is NO regardless of the needs of the Saints.
So rather than drop Fish I would have much preferred RL released Fish back to back line rather than drop him because he is not a tagger which RL hoped he was
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Who cares what sort of "engine" he has...Great..let him run in marathons..he has really NO impact on footy games at all. He runs and runs...hardly gets the ball..and when he does, rarely does it translate to something advantageous. For his size, he lacks agrression. Bleeds for the club, no doubt.. but something is missing...just doesn't read the game...seems like the match committee agree with me.
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I am glad you are laughing...Shaggy wrote:
Lol ... is Fish really a tagger?
However if you read my post again you will read..
"are mainly taggers or defensive...."
So playing him as a backman is still using him in a defensive manner.
Fish is basically out for Schneider who is an offensive player.
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As an athlete I understand Rix is reportedly quite exceptional too.Shaggy wrote:
As an athlete Blake is exceptional.
Meant to be quicker with greater aerobic capacity than our other rucks...and even talls, except for Roo.
I still prefer our other rucks and talls though.
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The dropping of Blake offsets Dempster's inclusion nicely. I suspect Dempster will get the job on Richo which would otherwise have gone to Blake.
I agree with sRr, I take the selections as an effort to make the team more attacking. I like it.
I agree with sRr, I take the selections as an effort to make the team more attacking. I like it.
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Anyway...the acid is now on Charlie and Dempster tp demonstrate that they are greater value than Blake.
If not then Blake.....or raph are waiting to graba sot back.....and this is a good thing.
Similarly Birss and Goose need to show the goods.
Bakes we assume will......but others such as L Fisher want his spot.
Armo is in...and hasa great future...but will have to work hard to stay in.
King smight be back for the Pies game,,,,,,,and a month or so after that Gilbert will be putting his hand up as well.
The GTrain is back......buut when King is fit.....there would seem to be one too many talls.
Again this is all good.
If not then Blake.....or raph are waiting to graba sot back.....and this is a good thing.
Similarly Birss and Goose need to show the goods.
Bakes we assume will......but others such as L Fisher want his spot.
Armo is in...and hasa great future...but will have to work hard to stay in.
King smight be back for the Pies game,,,,,,,and a month or so after that Gilbert will be putting his hand up as well.
The GTrain is back......buut when King is fit.....there would seem to be one too many talls.
Again this is all good.
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Personally I think JB is a freak.tweedaletomanning wrote:Who cares what sort of "engine" he has...Great..let him run in marathons..he has really NO impact on footy games at all. He runs and runs...hardly gets the ball..and when he does, rarely does it translate to something advantageous. For his size, he lacks agrression. Bleeds for the club, no doubt.. but something is missing...just doesn't read the game...seems like the match committee agree with me.
I still have a substantial bet that he will take mark of the year during his career. JB IMO has the biggest jump in the AFL.
Does that make him a top footballer ... no. The combination of endurance and jump/explosive athletic however is so rare. Plus he has the courage so it should all fit together.
For whatever reason he lacks something on the football side ... as an athlete (IMO) JB is one of the elite and I guess/suspect both GT and RL think the same.
Don't just watch his mistakes but watch what he does during a game and don't take for granted that it is normal to run 50 metres and jump 6 foot to punch the ball through the opp goals. It is amazing he can do it because it is not normal.
For whatever reason JB will never be a Dal and lacks certain football nous and skills. But he really is a very extraordinary elite athlete (IMO).
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If the match selection committee agreed with you, Blake would have dissapeared quietly years ago.tweedaletomanning wrote:Who cares what sort of "engine" he has...Great..let him run in marathons..he has really NO impact on footy games at all. He runs and runs...hardly gets the ball..and when he does, rarely does it translate to something advantageous. For his size, he lacks agrression. Bleeds for the club, no doubt.. but something is missing...just doesn't read the game...seems like the match committee agree with me.
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Your right.......as far as the club and the teams performance are concerned this forum means absolute shite,its just a place for keyboard experts to try and out do each other........skeptic wrote:personally I agree with the op
i also acknowledge that this forum is really more about forumites expressing their opinions rather than serving the club in any which way.
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That is true. Rixy as I understand was a top APS runner.saintsRrising wrote:As an athlete I understand Rix is reportedly quite exceptional too.Shaggy wrote:
As an athlete Blake is exceptional.
Meant to be quicker with greater aerobic capacity than our other rucks...and even talls, except for Roo.
I still prefer our other rucks and talls though.
But Rixy doesn't have a jump. He is a bit of a one trick pony and can't read the play. JB can.
The problem for JB is that half way through his career the AFL decided to limit the amount of run up the smaller guys are allowed going for a hit out.
Personally I think JB's career was hatchered by the AFL when they introduced the limited centre bounce run up. It killed GT's vision of rucks but GT was quite right. The best rucks were followers not dinosours. But now Dinosours are back in vogue
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ive never had a problem with blake being in the side.
can only remember one OUTSTANDING game he had tho and that was when he carved up Goodes once....Goddes just didnt pay him any respect and he paid for it all game.
other than that he is steady and always puts in each time he is picked.
ive heard he is highly rated as an athlete and person by his team mates and peeps at the club.
if he has to go, then so be it.....
lets see who wants a perm spot this week outta the players that are on the fringe
can only remember one OUTSTANDING game he had tho and that was when he carved up Goodes once....Goddes just didnt pay him any respect and he paid for it all game.
other than that he is steady and always puts in each time he is picked.
ive heard he is highly rated as an athlete and person by his team mates and peeps at the club.
if he has to go, then so be it.....
lets see who wants a perm spot this week outta the players that are on the fringe
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