Gram

1eyedNever · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:07pm

How he is getting a game is a FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Joke
Is a total one trick pony and his long kick is now SHYT piss him off to the MAGGOOS

The_Dud · Post: # 555049Post **The_Dud** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:08pm

in the space of 2 years has seemed to go form the best kick in the team to the worst....

Lenny_Hayes7 · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:16pm

You people are a joke we win and he is god we lose and F*** all the players off fkn hell!!! Granted we played like S*** Still only lost by 3-4 goals

Saintschampions08 · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:17pm

The_Dud wrote:in the space of 2 years has seemed to go form the best kick in the team to the worst....

Had 11 kicks, i think i saw about 2 drop punts.

Statsman · Post: # 555149Post **Statsman** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:29pm

Gram specialises in the long mongrel punt deep inside 50. That's useful if we're lucky enough for it to land in somebody's lap, but 9 times out of 10 its a turn over.

savatage · Post: # 555155Post **savatage** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:31pm

Lenny_Hayes7 wrote:You people are a joke we win and he is god we lose and F*** all the players off fkn hell!!! Granted we played like S*** Still only lost by 3-4 goals

That says more about Port Adelaide than us though. Gram has played one good game this year & that was the NAB Cup Grand Final, everything else has been sub par.

Saintschampions08 · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:32pm

savatage wrote:
Lenny_Hayes7 wrote:You people are a joke we win and he is god we lose and F*** all the players off fkn hell!!! Granted we played like S*** Still only lost by 3-4 goals
That says more about Port Adelaide than us though. Gram has played one good game this year & that was the NAB Cup Grand Final, everything else has been sub par.

It's not a tough concept to understand.

Its not the end result, its the method.

No body cares that we lost by 3 goals, as much as they care about the game that we played.

We could have played Casey's 2nd team, and probably would have lost.

St Fidelius · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:37pm

Fair Dinkum..

we are better off cutting our loses and trade the farker with a full wardrobe of skirts and dresses...

How the F*** we let go of Guerra and in the same year picked up this skirt of a player that does not know how to tackle or to "man up", let alone to be able to show some aggression at the ball is beyond me......

He has NO respect of his team's back half and no respect of his opponent IMO

F*** this joker off, he is an embarrisment IMO

Why the F*** did we get rid of Guerra (who had some heart and shows guts) to this so called player that does not even know any meaning of the word defence or being accountable??

savatage · Post: # 555199Post **savatage** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:40pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:
savatage wrote:
Lenny_Hayes7 wrote:You people are a joke we win and he is god we lose and F*** all the players off fkn hell!!! Granted we played like S*** Still only lost by 3-4 goals
That says more about Port Adelaide than us though. Gram has played one good game this year & that was the NAB Cup Grand Final, everything else has been sub par.
It's not a tough concept to understand.

Its not the end result, its the method.

Absolutely spot on. Like I said earlier tonight - I'd walk out feeling content knowing that our boys did everything in their power to win us that game. The fact remains, the "efforts" we saw tonight were so below acceptable that they were almost laughable at times. How so many of our players don't man up, know how to execute kicking & handballing skills properly, don't chase, don't tackle properly....words can't describe the utter frustration of watching St.Kilda play football like that. An effort is all we ask & expect!

mad saint guy · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:46pm

St Fidelius wrote:How the F*** we let go of Guerra and in the same year picked up this skirt of a player that does not know how to tackle or to "man up", let alone to be able to show some aggression at the ball is beyond me......

Gram and Guerra were both recruited in 2003, Guerra delisted in 2005.

Why the F*** did we get rid of Guerra (who had some heart and shows guts) to this so called player that does not even know any meaning of the word defence or being accountable??

Guerra was delisted for a lack of heart. Nothing was more frustrating in 2004-5 than seeing Guerra just collapse over the ball holding his head time after time in hope of a soft free kick.

The occasional heavy bump to an unsuspecting opponent does not make him a couragous player. He sure did show his gut though.

devil saint · Sat 26 Apr 2008 11:49pm

mad saint guy wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:How the F*** we let go of Guerra and in the same year picked up this skirt of a player that does not know how to tackle or to "man up", let alone to be able to show some aggression at the ball is beyond me......
Gram and Guerra were both recruited in 2003, Guerra delisted in 2005.

Why the F*** did we get rid of Guerra (who had some heart and shows guts) to this so called player that does not even know any meaning of the word defence or being accountable??
Guerra was delisted for a lack of heart. Nothing was more frustrating in 2004-5 than seeing Guerra just collapse over the ball holding his head time after time in hope of a soft free kick.

The occasional heavy bump to an unsuspecting opponent does not make him a couragous player. He sure did show his gut though.

Guerra's lucky he went! He'll be playing off in grand final this year. He'll be absolutely rapt the saints got rid of him. And gosh, he is playing some good football!

Saint Bev · Post: # 555469Post **Saint Bev** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 12:57am

Short memory folks, he had a coulple of good games but mostly he was very ordinary for us.

The_Dud · Post: # 555486Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 1:12am

Saint Bev wrote:Short memory folks, he had a coulple of good games but mostly he was very ordinary for us.

i'm really not too worried about the way that he's paying, just his disposal of the ball, its horrendous at times!

Sobraz · Post: # 555539Post **Sobraz** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:02am

I was a massive critic of Grams and his soft approach at anything resembling a contest for years.. However, over time i was won over by his attacking ability, his breaking of the lines, run and bounce and long dangerous disposal...

All these weapons all now seem to be gone, and he is back playing the soft footy that made me want him cut 3 years ago.. It isnt looking good for Gram, and the worst part is he isnt doing the necassary things when one is out of form.. He isnt tackling, pressuring, harrassing etc... Just shanking every second (cheap) kick...

For his sake he is lucky he signed his contract when he did.. His value has dropped dramatically in the past month..

Saintschampions08 · Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:29am

The_Dud wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:Short memory folks, he had a coulple of good games but mostly he was very ordinary for us.
i'm really not too worried about the way that he's paying, just his disposal of the ball, its horrendous at times!

Spot on.

He had enough possessions, ran enough...but he didn't hurt the opposition.
If he had a good kick, he could have been one of the best.

But every time he got rid off the ball, it was like watching an U9 kid kick the thing.

Winmarvellous · Sun 27 Apr 2008 3:37am

Gone is his best weapon - the long ranfe bomb. Our forwards made it work, now it works for them because Gram can't execute. Back to th 2s for you.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 555597Post **fonz_#15** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 3:47am

our problems run a lot deeper than grams inability to kick...

i still love you grammy

LENNY LEADS THE WAY · Sun 27 Apr 2008 4:04am

grammy stop trying to kick the cover off the ball mate