Casey Game rd 5- anzac day

bob__71 · Post: # 554408Post **bob__71** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 9:18pm

Just a quick report from the game...Raph was clearly scorps best player, chf for the first three qtrs...into the middle for the last quarter...fiora did a few things in the second half...fraze tryed but couldent get into the game....and cj really cant kick....Mcenvoy looks like he will be a player was good in the ruck...not much else to report....

Teflon · Post: # 554417Post **Teflon** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 10:43pm

Perhaps this IS the point from these reports....could Raph be the laconic goal kicking HF we desperately need????????

He can take a mark......would still need a defensive side to his game but....its been a while since Ive read anyone say Raph was the standout in a game...

satchmo · Post: # 554424Post **satchmo** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:02pm

Teflon wrote:..its been a while since Ive read anyone say Raph was the standout in a game...

Raph will get better and better, and we shouldn't give a stuff how he looks, just play him. The coach rates him, the players rate him, let him do his stuff.

Teflon · Post: # 554426Post **Teflon** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:08pm

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:..its been a while since Ive read anyone say Raph was the standout in a game...
Raph will get better and better, and we shouldn't give a stuff how he looks, just play him. The coach rates him, the players rate him, let him do his stuff.

Nup.

"being rated on potential" doesnt crack it for a game week in week out - you need effort, intensity. Raph at times is just to laid back for mine so maybe a stint here and a shot up fwd can rejuvinate him. Hope so cause Im still waiting for all this "talent" to come out.

satchmo · Post: # 554428Post **satchmo** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:17pm

He needs to play at the top level. He'll never excel in the VFL, he'll just do his job. By the time we need him due to depth, he'll need weeks to pick up the tempo.

Teflon · Post: # 554430Post **Teflon** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:22pm

satchmo wrote:He needs to play at the top level. He'll never excel in the VFL, he'll just do his job. By the time we need him due to depth, he'll need weeks to pick up the tempo.

Maybe. or maybe he at least just first needs to get to "excel" for some consecutive time AT ALL cause for me hes just not been consistent and doesnt seem to know what is required of him to do that.

To the top · Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:25pm

I seem to recall none other than the Coach mentioning last year that he saw R. Clarke and Gilbert are running 6 foot 3" mid-fielders. Gilbert is 194cm and R. Clarke 189cm.

I would add given we can spare Gilbert from our defence (once Max goes - and an alternate full back to Gilbert would suite us just fine - but who?).

The playing of R. Clarke as a defender is part of the education.

Once he returns to the league side, which will not be too far off, he will be thrown everywhere.

Forward, mid and back.

The Coach knows exactly what he has got in R. Clarke, and he is putting the education into him.

Just you wait and see!

Teflon · Post: # 554436Post **Teflon** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:41pm

To the top wrote:I seem to recall none other than the Coach mentioning last year that he saw R. Clarke and Gilbert are running 6 foot 3" mid-fielders. Gilbert is 194cm and R. Clarke 189cm.

I would add given we can spare Gilbert from our defence (once Max goes - and an alternate full back to Gilbert would suite us just fine - but who?).

The playing of R. Clarke as a defender is part of the education.

Once he returns to the league side, which will not be too far off, he will be thrown everywhere.

Forward, mid and back.

The Coach knows exactly what he has got in R. Clarke, and he is putting the education into him.

Just you wait and see!

Its been a fair tuition time wise...needs to show more and soon for mine

satchmo · Post: # 554437Post **satchmo** » Fri 25 Apr 2008 11:42pm

To the top wrote: The Coach knows exactly what he has got in R. Clarke, and he is putting the education into him.

Just you wait and see!

Yeah, I think that's it. I'm sure that he's a gun, and they are just giving him a tweak !

I also think that it's hard to judge these players without knowing what specific instructions they are given for the game.

Of course there are no guarantees, but I reckon he'll be worth the patience.

clarky449 · Post: # 554467Post **clarky449** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:34am

Raph has had so many oppurtunities but yet doesnt deliver at AFL Level

Solar · Post: # 554471Post **Solar** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:41am

clarky449 wrote:Raph has had so many oppurtunities but yet doesnt deliver at AFL Level

so many opportunities? this is the first year he has had a preseason behind him and the first time he has played constant football.

The kid could be anything, and with confidence behind him could play a roaming HF/wing very very well.

Spinner · Post: # 554482Post **Spinner** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 1:09am

To the top wrote:I seem to recall none other than the Coach mentioning last year that he saw R. Clarke and Gilbert are running 6 foot 3" mid-fielders. Gilbert is 194cm and R. Clarke 189cm.

I would add given we can spare Gilbert from our defence (once Max goes - and an alternate full back to Gilbert would suite us just fine - but who?).

The playing of R. Clarke as a defender is part of the education.

Once he returns to the league side, which will not be too far off, he will be thrown everywhere.

Forward, mid and back.

The Coach knows exactly what he has got in R. Clarke, and he is putting the education into him.

Just you wait and see!

Agree.

Dan Warna · Post: # 554492Post **Dan Warna** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 2:44am

how did mini go? or was he a non entity in this game?

bob__71 · Post: # 554506Post **bob__71** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 10:18am

Dan Warna wrote:how did mini go? or was he a non entity in this game?

Ah didnt notice him huge amounts dan...to be truthful tassie gave casey a bit of a bath in the middle for a fair bit of the game. well until raph moved in there in the last.

There was more than potential in todays game from raph...he gave off about five passes in the first half to a player who then kicked a goal. If players around raph can clear him some space he will produce the goods....i am a big fan after yesterdays performance.

saintsrus · Post: # 554529Post **saintsrus** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:38pm

Really disappointing to hear Gehrig only kicked a point at that level

saint66au · Post: # 554530Post **saint66au** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:38pm

Whilst Im rapt Raph played well, I still have some reservations.

Watching him at AFL Level, his weak point is his decision making. No-one can question he has all the physical skills required to make it, he's been a gun at every level bar AFL. Once at AFL however, the time you have to decide on options is slashed and thats where Raph falls down. Id fully expect him to dominate at a lower level, because you do get that extra time to decide what to do.

Lets hope he builds his confidence over the coming weeks to a point where his first options are the right ones and he has the confidence to take them. THEN we will see Raph's true potential at AFL Level be realised.

Spinner · Post: # 554535Post **Spinner** » Sat 26 Apr 2008 1:30pm

saint66au wrote:Whilst Im rapt Raph played well, I still have some reservations.

Watching him at AFL Level, his weak point is his decision making. No-one can question he has all the physical skills required to make it, he's been a gun at every level bar AFL. Once at AFL however, the time you have to decide on options is slashed and thats where Raph falls down. Id fully expect him to dominate at a lower level, because you do get that extra time to decide what to do.

Lets hope he builds his confidence over the coming weeks to a point where his first options are the right ones and he has the confidence to take them. THEN we will see Raph's true potential at AFL Level be realised.

Correct...But its a great flaw to have.

Because 9 times out of ten, experience fixes that problem.

Remember, the bloke has only played something like 39 games.

saintbrat · Post: # 557540Post **saintbrat** » Tue 29 Apr 2008 8:50pm

http://www.scorpions.com.au/match-repor ... pions.html

Ben McEvoy again impressed being the sole ruckman in the side, and having rucking duties for most of the day. He is showing maturity well beyond his age and is a big future prospect for St. Kilda. >>>>>>>>>>>
Raphael Clarke won the Best on Ground ANZAC day medal for the Scorpions side, as selected by the coaching panel and will no doubt be pushing for St. Kilda selection.

LENNY LEADS THE WAY · Tue 29 Apr 2008 8:51pm

saintbrat wrote:http://www.scorpions.com.au/match-repor ... pions.html

Ben McEvoy again impressed being the sole ruckman in the side, and having rucking duties for most of the day. He is showing maturity well beyond his age and is a big future prospect for St. Kilda. >>>>>>>>>>>
Raphael Clarke won the Best on Ground ANZAC day medal for the Scorpions side, as selected by the coaching panel and will no doubt be pushing for St. Kilda selection.

Thanks for the news that's fantastic keep it up big Benny Mac