Alwyn Davey's holding the ball non-call

hAyES · Post: # 551663Post **hAyES** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 3:19pm

Did anybody else see that? He was streaming through the middle, went to kick the ball and Armo laid a great tackle on him forcing him to kick the ground instead of the ball. The umpire was no more than 5-10m away and still didn't call it. It was honestly the definition of improper disposal and yet the umpire doesn't call it! In the end it ended up being very costly because they ended up kicking a goal from it and had all the momentum in the world. Honestly if the umpires can't see that, then what the hell can they see?

saintspremiers · Sat 19 Apr 2008 3:25pm

The blind mongrels made plenty of mistakes last night, especially maggot number 15 - he really stood out as a problem child.

Overall, they seemed equally bad for both sides, but considering we won comfortably they tend to get let off the hook a bit.....

joffaboy · Post: # 551668Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 3:27pm

Hit his foot.

Richter · Post: # 551669Post **Richter** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 3:28pm

Yep I don't remember that particular incident, but I thought we had a few simliar incidents with Armo, Milne and Dal which weren't paid so, hey, what goes around comes around - bottom line - umpies much closer than we are.

Mr Magic · Post: # 551686Post **Mr Magic** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 3:58pm

Sorry to sidetrack this thread, but did anybody else think the umpires used different interpretations on 2 rules last night?

Holding the ball
Hands in the back/Chopping the arms.

It seemed to me that htye hardly paid any frees for both of those type of infractions compared to what we have seen in the first 4 rounds.

Maybe the players just miraculously got better at not offending over the week?

mad saint guy · Sat 19 Apr 2008 5:15pm

Strangest decision was when Goddard tackled McPhee, McPhee drops the ball and play on is called. Montagna gathers the ball, is tackled by Lloyd, Montagna drops the ball and is pinged. Identical scenarios within about 5 seconds of each other and they only call one of them.

milney044 · Post: # 551724Post **milney044** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 5:19pm

I think the umps forgot the holding the ball rule existed for the majority of the game. Many times i thought it was there but it was called play on..ah well.. at least they were consistently blind..

rexy · Post: # 551729Post **rexy** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 5:26pm

joffaboy wrote:Hit his foot.

Spot on Joffa, just touched his foot.

Batnoe · Post: # 551818Post **Batnoe** » Sat 19 Apr 2008 7:32pm

it doesnt matter if he hit his foot, he threw it on there

THROW!!!!!!!!!!!!, incorrect disposal

my les foote · Sat 19 Apr 2008 7:38pm

Great effort by Armo, but I didn't think what he did constituted a tackle. He seemed to just get one hand on him.

Usually they pay those to the tackler even if the ball does brush the boot.

Broodruff · Post: # 552035Post **Broodruff** » Sun 20 Apr 2008 3:45am

mad saint guy wrote:Strangest decision was when Goddard tackled McPhee, McPhee drops the ball and play on is called. Montagna gathers the ball, is tackled by Lloyd, Montagna drops the ball and is pinged. Identical scenarios within about 5 seconds of each other and they only call one of them.

I saw that and I'm sure my neighbours heard me go off my nut at that. It was absoloutley ridiculous call.

my les foote · Sun 20 Apr 2008 6:38am

mad saint guy wrote:Strangest decision was when Goddard tackled McPhee, McPhee drops the ball and play on is called. Montagna gathers the ball, is tackled by Lloyd, Montagna drops the ball and is pinged. Identical scenarios within about 5 seconds of each other and they only call one of them.

I feel like I'm channeling Plugger66 in this thread.

I couldn't see that one either. McPhee had the ball twice before Lloyd's free. He handballed both times although the first time he grabbed hold of Armitage's jumper to stop him from tackling. A few seconds later he had it again and handballed as soon as he was tackled by Sam Fisher.

The Lloyd free was there, as was the one payed against him a few minutes later.

plugger66 · Post: # 552066Post **plugger66** » Sun 20 Apr 2008 10:39am

Batnoe wrote:it doesnt matter if he hit his foot, he threw it on there

THROW!!!!!!!!!!!!, incorrect disposal

Are you talking about Lovett. He didnt throw it. He kicked it about one inch but correct call because he did kick it.

Mr Magic · Post: # 552072Post **Mr Magic** » Sun 20 Apr 2008 11:14am

my les foote wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Strangest decision was when Goddard tackled McPhee, McPhee drops the ball and play on is called. Montagna gathers the ball, is tackled by Lloyd, Montagna drops the ball and is pinged. Identical scenarios within about 5 seconds of each other and they only call one of them.

although the first time he grabbed hold of Armitage's jumper to stop him from tackling. quote]

Did Armitage have teh ball when McPhee grabbed his jumper? No he didn't - clear case of 'holding the man' against McPhee!

Otiman · Post: # 552082Post **Otiman** » Sun 20 Apr 2008 1:08pm

I for one am glad that the umpires swallowed their whistles at times, it's been overumpiring of games that has been their downfall this year. If they miss a few on our side, i'm not going to complain, there were probably a few that essendon supporters would be annoyed at too.

iwantmeseats · Sun 20 Apr 2008 2:05pm

Mr Magic wrote:Sorry to sidetrack this thread, but did anybody else think the umpires used different interpretations on 2 rules last night?

Holding the ball
Hands in the back/Chopping the arms.

It seemed to me that htye hardly paid any frees for both of those type of infractions compared to what we have seen in the first 4 rounds.

Maybe the players just miraculously got better at not offending over the week?

Yes absolutely, and I for one am very glad. Nothing more frustrating than the automatic ping when the ball is under a pack, it was getting totally ridiculous!!! Just each situation on its merists. Well done umps.