Nick Dal Santo - 2nd Week in a row
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no where near hard enough, yet had the most tackles out of the 44 players today.iwantmeseats wrote:Well I turn those comments back on you, DUD. Hmm, suits ya that name. Nup, he was complete shite today, can look he gives a crap maybe sometimes, but ultimately ineffective, AND NO WHERE NEAR HARD ENOUGH. Should be dropped for a week so HE CAN HARDEN THE f*** UP!
hmmm, yes, okay......
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Please, you are embarrassing yourself.iwantmeseats wrote:big deal 7 f****** tackles, f***, that was when he just got in the way. He IS NO GOOD at the moment. Dont know what f****** game your watching !!
Ling destroys most that he plays on.
What do you expect from a bloke who has a bloke following him entirely, with his only aim to nullify his opponent. Not even the best are that good sometimes.
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dude he is a gun he is down on form, get over it.iwantmeseats wrote:Say what you want! I still say NOT hard ennough, nees to win more contested ball. I dont care for players that run up and down the wings looking pretty, not good enough.
7 tackles? He could have had 14 if he actually threw a 180 and went inside for a change.l
half that team needs changing it was mostly the umpiring today,
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Dal only had two clearances, the same as last week, but it was a much better outing. He was putting himself in harm's way constantly, and Ling wasn't roaming free the way Hill was last week. Ling's made a habit of shutting down star players while winning his own footy. He got an AA selection for his trouble last year. Anybody who thinks we'd be better off with Dal out of the middle and Ling going to Joey or Hayes is out of their mind.
He had a good game. Not a great one, but a good one. Fact is, against a great team, we needed more great efforts, so I can understand the frustration. But singling out Dal has become the easy option for rabid supporters on this board. Without fail, unless he dominates, we get people here calling him lazy and unaccountable without citing examples. Dal worked hard today, and Ling had to win his own ball for possessions. Anyone saying Dal was Lazy or unaccoutable is, IMO, completely wrong.
He had a good game. Not a great one, but a good one. Fact is, against a great team, we needed more great efforts, so I can understand the frustration. But singling out Dal has become the easy option for rabid supporters on this board. Without fail, unless he dominates, we get people here calling him lazy and unaccountable without citing examples. Dal worked hard today, and Ling had to win his own ball for possessions. Anyone saying Dal was Lazy or unaccoutable is, IMO, completely wrong.
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Come on mate, be serious. Or FAIR DINKUM as a moron might say.saintspremiers wrote:I agree.
Perhaps he needs to be dropped for a week to get his head right.
If he is fit, he's playing at best only at 25% of his ability.
Simply nowhere near good enough.
But typical of Lyon, he'll make only 2 changes for Essendon - Schneider and Gardy in for X and Harvs (both injured/half stuffed!)
3rd in 2005 Brownlow with 18 votes. 16 Brownlow votes last year. You don't drop players of that caliber even if they're not performing up to expectations, even at current level he still walks into any sides best 22 and will undoubtedly find form soon. Think about the bigger picture....
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you have as warped sense of football my friend.....iwantmeseats wrote:Say what you want! I still say NOT hard ennough, nees to win more contested ball. I dont care for players that run up and down the wings looking pretty, not good enough.
7 tackles? He could have had 14 if he actually threw a 180 and went inside for a change.l
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I watched Dal very closely today, and frankly I was disgusted with his laziness around the ground. He does not break past a jog unless the ball is within 10m of him and makes no effort to stop his opponent. When he did get near the footy today he played for free kicks if he felt any contact.
I am a fan of Dal, but his performance today was absolutely horrible. Just because he is tagged doesn't mean he is restricted to slowly jogging up and down the wings all day. If Lyon is fair dinkum about improving the team's work rate Dal has to be dropped.
He's an awsome player when going at full flight, but he needs a massive kick up the arse.
I am a fan of Dal, but his performance today was absolutely horrible. Just because he is tagged doesn't mean he is restricted to slowly jogging up and down the wings all day. If Lyon is fair dinkum about improving the team's work rate Dal has to be dropped.
He's an awsome player when going at full flight, but he needs a massive kick up the arse.
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As I started this post I knew we'd get some differing opinions but it’s nice to see someone else watch what Dal was doing.mad saint guy wrote:I watched Dal very closely today, and frankly I was disgusted with his laziness around the ground. He does not break past a jog unless the ball is within 10m of him and makes no effort to stop his opponent. When he did get near the footy today he played for free kicks if he felt any contact.
I am a fan of Dal, but his performance today was absolutely horrible. Just because he is tagged doesn't mean he is restricted to slowly jogging up and down the wings all day. If Lyon is fair dinkum about improving the team's work rate Dal has to be dropped.
He's an awsome player when going at full flight, but he needs a massive kick up the arse.
I don’t dislike Dal he’s a great player but he has to do more as MSG has stated above.
I wouldn’t drop him. We should be good enough to beat the Thugs next week as they will be thin on talent. It will give Dal a chance to redeem himself.
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Gees I honestly thought there was more than 1 player that played for St Kilda.
Dal worked alot harder today, did you even notice the first two bounces of the game. In and Under and got out a beautiful handball.
Yes I am only pointing out one piece of play, but there were more.
It was a big improvement from last week and hopefully will continue to improve over the next couple of weeks.
Dal is out of form and some of you lot want blood.
Honestly wake up and smell the coffee, its not like Dal is the only player at the moment that is not having a massive impact on the game.
How quickly people forget the good things he has done since he joined the club.
Gees hang the guy out to dry for a few bad weeks when we know he is not playing his best footy at the moment, but to carry on and SWEAR mr "iwantmyseats" is not the way to go about it.
Disgraceful.
Dal worked alot harder today, did you even notice the first two bounces of the game. In and Under and got out a beautiful handball.
Yes I am only pointing out one piece of play, but there were more.
It was a big improvement from last week and hopefully will continue to improve over the next couple of weeks.
Dal is out of form and some of you lot want blood.
Honestly wake up and smell the coffee, its not like Dal is the only player at the moment that is not having a massive impact on the game.
How quickly people forget the good things he has done since he joined the club.
Gees hang the guy out to dry for a few bad weeks when we know he is not playing his best footy at the moment, but to carry on and SWEAR mr "iwantmyseats" is not the way to go about it.
Disgraceful.
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You are absolutely spot on Mad Saint Guy, I also watched him very closely today and he was terrible. In fact he has been every week this season IMO. He is lazy and does not go for the hard ball. What really disappointed me was when he got a smack in the mouth today he just let it slip by as though nothing had happened. He needs to toughen up and get his hands dirty, capable of much better.mad saint guy wrote:I watched Dal very closely today, and frankly I was disgusted with his laziness around the ground. He does not break past a jog unless the ball is within 10m of him and makes no effort to stop his opponent. When he did get near the footy today he played for free kicks if he felt any contact.
I am a fan of Dal, but his performance today was absolutely horrible. Just because he is tagged doesn't mean he is restricted to slowly jogging up and down the wings all day. If Lyon is fair dinkum about improving the team's work rate Dal has to be dropped.
He's an awsome player when going at full flight, but he needs a massive kick up the arse.
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Were you at the game today? Ling didn't need to do anything to stop him! Dal just strolled around the ground with Ling usually 10-20m in front of him. If Ling was sticking right next to Dal all day, scragging and holding on to him then his crap game could be excused, but having Ling on him made no real difference, since he just wasn't prepared to run for the ball.The_Dud wrote:also, him taking the best tagger in the league alowed players such as Lenny, Ball and Joey to all get 25 plus possessions
they put Ling on him because they know how much of a threat Dal is
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I also am surprised at his efforts over the full course of a game. My point in an earlier post of his limited progression as a player since 2004 is unwavered. Even GT last year regularly made an issue about his inability to shake off a tag and that he needed to do this to take the next step. Why can Harney, Judd, Ablett, Bartel etc regularly do it and not Dal Santo? He is at best a good to very good player.......he is far from elite.
I watched Black & Power from the Lions tonight play inspiring midfield roles to challenge Port. Dal is well behind these guys as a potent midfielder because his workrate does not compare. Their second efforts are like his first efforts when he is actually making a contest.
I watched Black & Power from the Lions tonight play inspiring midfield roles to challenge Port. Dal is well behind these guys as a potent midfielder because his workrate does not compare. Their second efforts are like his first efforts when he is actually making a contest.
mad saint guy wrote:Were you at the game today? Ling didn't need to do anything to stop him! Dal just strolled around the ground with Ling usually 10-20m in front of him. If Ling was sticking right next to Dal all day, scragging and holding on to him then his crap game could be excused, but having Ling on him made no real difference, since he just wasn't prepared to run for the ball.The_Dud wrote:also, him taking the best tagger in the league alowed players such as Lenny, Ball and Joey to all get 25 plus possessions
they put Ling on him because they know how much of a threat Dal is
I was at the game today and for quite a while I thought Dal was supposed to be tagging Ling.
A good tagger stops his gun player to 10-20 possessions and gets a dozen himself, usually scrappy possessions as a result of tackling your taggee and picking up the ball at ground level.
Ling led Dal to contests, picked up (the scoreboard had late in the last) 28 possies and almost all of them were damaging.
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i can't understand some of what i'm reading
Dal has never been a huge ball winner, and he had 18 possesions (i can't wait to see the breakdown of these regarding clearences and contested possessions) and 7 tackles against the best tagger in the league, and people are saying he should be dropped?!!?
why don't we wait and see how he goes next week, without the number 1 tagger in the league on him
again, please, someone show me the last player to beat Ling
Dal has never been a huge ball winner, and he had 18 possesions (i can't wait to see the breakdown of these regarding clearences and contested possessions) and 7 tackles against the best tagger in the league, and people are saying he should be dropped?!!?
why don't we wait and see how he goes next week, without the number 1 tagger in the league on him
again, please, someone show me the last player to beat Ling
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True. That's exactly how it was. Sometimes we need to be brutally honest and see things for the way they are. There are several midfielders in the comp that are more damaging than him. He is the epitomy of an outside player. He tried to be more accountable today and at times he looked all at sea because the reality is it is not in his make-up. I'm not calling for him to be dropped but he needs to re-invent himself fast.mad saint guy wrote:Were you at the game today? Ling didn't need to do anything to stop him! Dal just strolled around the ground with Ling usually 10-20m in front of him. If Ling was sticking right next to Dal all day, scragging and holding on to him then his crap game could be excused, but having Ling on him made no real difference, since he just wasn't prepared to run for the ball.The_Dud wrote:also, him taking the best tagger in the league alowed players such as Lenny, Ball and Joey to all get 25 plus possessions
they put Ling on him because they know how much of a threat Dal is
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I am with you 110% on this, Ling was one of Geelongs best last year. Its rather ironic I think because it was only the year before 2006 the geelong supporters were calling for his blood. Saying he was too slow and the game had gone past him. Its amazing if you keep with it things can change.The_Dud wrote:i can't understand some of what i'm reading
Dal has never been a huge ball winner, and he had 18 possesions (i can't wait to see the breakdown of these regarding clearences and contested possessions) and 7 tackles against the best tagger in the league, and people are saying he should be dropped?!!?
why don't we wait and see how he goes next week, without the number 1 tagger in the league on him
again, please, someone show me the last player to beat Ling
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