positives

[bigcarl]

gilbert. looks as though he'd make a better than average half forward. a good foil for riewoldt (and boy does he need one). kicked a couple of nice goals.

goose: good to see the big guy back out there. he'll be better for the run.

despite losing by 42 points we had only two fewer scoring shots. that's positive in the sense that it gives us something to work on.

i won't start on the negatives. enough threads on that already

[The_Dud]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

I love the way Jones has a crack but his disposal just lets him down so often

[The_Dud]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

I love the way Jones has a crack but his disposal just lets him down so often

then he just needs to be managed better, but should definately be in the team

[hAyES]

Jones.. Ugh.. If you can't kick you shouldn't play footy. He is just rotten with his disposal.

[bigcarl]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

agree and boy do we need guys who can get the football and at least try to make the play.

[SainterX]

How about Kosi? He threw himself at the ball with reckless abandon a couple of times. It was good to see that also

[my les foote]

Jones.. Ugh.. If you can't kick you shouldn't play footy. He is just rotten with his disposal.

So Jones and Ball should be dropped?

But this is a positives thread.

I thought King was good.

Kosi looked switched on.

Sam Gilbert had his best game for the year.

[bigcarl]

How about Kosi? He threw himself at the ball with reckless abandon a couple of times. It was good to see that also

yes, kosi was good and riewoldt also. presented time and again.

[Sobraz]

Have to agree with al mentioned so far...

Goose was ok, and will get much much better...

Gilb was great and gets unfairly criticised due to his ungainly action..

CJ.. Have to admit, was not a fan, but love the way he goes about it... Way ahead of many other atm...

Kosi was fantastic... His stats may not show it, but i feel he was in our best 3... increadible player..

[Zippy]

Jones is good, and I'm quite happy with him as a defensive forward or tagger, but I wish he could kick better. He'd be a superb player if he could.

[chook23]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

I love the way Jones has a crack but his disposal just lets him down so often

then he just needs to be managed better, but should definately be in the team

needs to be managed better

turnovers (poor skills)

poor decision maker

Does not cut the mustard

opposition would love to see him get the pill

Modern game crucifies.................... TURNOVERS

Having a go is not good enough at this level.

[Solar]

really impressed with CJ, if he goes quickly with his kicking, especially long then his kicking is not that bad. His ground level work was very good and should see him keep him position.

Goose was great in his first game back.

Lenny was awesome, shame we fall away after him.

Thought gilbert was good forward and put some physical pressure on. Is learning on the job and I am impressed that dispite the fact he is out of form he still makes an impact with his tackling and sheparding.

We were run and use our natural skill and instinct we look fantastic. I just am not sure that there is a game plan otherwise.

[The_Dud]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

I love the way Jones has a crack but his disposal just lets him down so often

then he just needs to be managed better, but should definately be in the team

needs to be managed better

turnovers (poor skills)

poor decision maker

Does not cut the mustard

opposition would love to see him get the pill

Modern game crucifies.................... TURNOVERS

Having a go is not good enough at this level.

managed, as in, don't expect him to kick a 50 meter bullet pass

he should be doing exactly the same as Ball, get in and under, get the clearences, and also play as a link up man with his hard running

plus, he's about the only guy on our list who can lay a decent tackle

[bigcarl]

When we run and use our natural skill and instinct we look fantastic.

agree. i think our problems stem from continually worrying about what our opponents are doing rather than backing ourselves and taking risks like we used to.

in other words, don't respond ... create. make the play. take some chances.

let's hope we can rediscover something that approaches that old confidence, arrogance and attitude before the season slips away.

[St. Luke]

Jones showed why he should be in the team, cos he actually has a CRACK

Agree 100%!

[Solar]

When we run and use our natural skill and instinct we look fantastic.

agree. i think our problems stem from continually worrying about what our opponents are doing rather than backing ourselves and taking risks like we used to.

totally agree. And have you noticed that even with this new shut down game plan opposition sides still kick multiple goals against us.

[bigcarl]

totally agree. And have you noticed that even with this new shut down game plan opposition sides still kick multiple goals against us.

shut down football doesn't work ... at least not for the group we have. all it does is hand the initiative to the opposition and play into their hands.

[chook23]

really impressed with CJ, if he goes quickly with his kicking, especially long then his kicking is not that bad. His ground level work was very good and should see him keep him position.

Goose was great in his first game back.

Lenny was awesome, shame we fall away after him.

Thought gilbert was good forward and put some physical pressure on. Is learning on the job and I am impressed that dispite the fact he is out of form he still makes an impact with his tackling and sheparding.

We were run and use our natural skill and instinct we look fantastic. I just am not sure that there is a game plan otherwise.

It is not the gameplan......certainly A

Last week and this week our 1st quarters very good.....

as soon as our intensity is matched or is it the ability to sustain........

our footskills dropped away dramatically

kicking to our players adavatage was horrible

and when our ability to sustain intensity falls away
our genuine lack of leg speed is exposed...

their is a gameplan but we cannot sustain it

our starts last 2 weeks indicate that.

[Richter]

Goose - good to see him back. Thought he did well against Hawkins who is a monster of a lad and a star in the making.

Sam Fisher - another superb defensive game. Is he injured? That would be a huge loss for us.

BJ - another game back; nice to see him getting a bit of a run on the wing - like to see even more of him in the middle - he and Dal are our best users of the ball by foot and need to be on the ball more IMO

Roo - excellent game - always presenting. Had a couple of off weeks, glad that he came back today.

CJ - you always know this lad will give it 110%

Joey - better. Got to keep up the standard.

Hayes - easily BOG for us. A warrior in midfield.

AND as a unit, the midfield were much harder at it. Good to see us dominate the clearances. Hopefully MG will be backl soon and then we will really be motoring.

[Saint Bev]

What about Sam Fisher? Fantastic, as he is every week. Him, Hayes and Montagna are clearly our best players every week, well so far

[mad saint guy]

Positives
Gilbert isn't a crap player, he just isn't a key defender
Kosi can still have a huge impact as a ruckman drifting back
Steven King was a better option than Mark Blake
We won't have to trade/delist any good players to bring in 7-8 kids at the end of the year
Geelong are no good when pressure is applied to them and only kick goals when given space

[plugger66]

Positives
Gilbert isn't a crap player, he just isn't a key defender
Kosi can still have a huge impact as a ruckman drifting back
Steven King was a better option than Mark Blake
We won't have to trade/delist any good players to bring in 7-8 kids at the end of the year
Geelong are no good when pressure is applied to them and only kick goals when given space

So correct on geelong. No good under pressure. Once they are 10 goals up they are gone under pressure. Great comment. If only we could get them 15 goals ahead we would have beaten them.

[mad saint guy]

So correct on geelong. No good under pressure. Once they are 10 goals up they are gone under pressure. Great comment. If only we could get them 15 goals ahead we would have beaten them.

Saints were running hard, chasing well and harassing Geelong players in the first quarter and Geelong's skill level was worse than ours. They were fumbling, getting caught with the ball and stuffing up kicks.

The pressure fell away in the second quarter, Geelong were allowed to make clean delivery into the forward line and we were gone. Collingwood will beat Geelong.

[saint66au]

Positives
Gilbert isn't a crap player, he just isn't a key defender
Kosi can still have a huge impact as a ruckman drifting back
Steven King was a better option than Mark Blake
We won't have to trade/delist any good players to bring in 7-8 kids at the end of the year
Geelong are no good when pressure is applied to them and only kick goals when given space

So correct on geelong. No good under pressure. Once they are 10 goals up they are gone under pressure. Great comment. If only we could get them 15 goals ahead we would have beaten them.

Is it just my imagination, or do you always have to use dripping sarcasm to disagree with someone?

imho its getting pretty tiresome and you are coming across as a know-it-all