BJ In, Raph Out

TwoTowers · Post: # 541447Post **TwoTowers** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:08pm

In: Godddard
out: R. Clarke

Bulldogs:

In: Eagleton
Out: Higgins (inj)

SaintBot · Post: # 541448Post **SaintBot** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:08pm

ST KILDA
B: Blake, Hudghton, Geary
HB: Gram, S.Fisher, Gilbert
C: X.Clarke, Montagna, Dal Santo
HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Schneider
F: Milne, Koschitzke, Gehrig
FOLL: King, Hayes, Ball
I/C: M.Gardiner, L.Fisher, Fiora, Goddard
EMG: C.Gardiner, Jones, R.Clarke
IN: Goddard
OUT: R.Clarke

SaintBot · Post: # 541449Post **SaintBot** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:09pm

WESTERN BULLDOGS
B: Wight, Lake, Hargrave
HB: Griffen, Morris, Gilbee
C: Hill, West, Cross
HF: Murphy, Johnson, Giansiracusa
F: Akermanis, Hahn, Welsh
FOLL: Hudson, Boyd, Cooney
I/C: Addison, Callan, Minson, Eagleton
EMG: Street, Harbrow, Ward
IN: Eagleton
OUT: Higgins (ankle)

Dan Warna · Post: # 541450Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:11pm

in all honesty I think our best 22 looks very good, but our emergency look a bit think with charlie, and clint.

raph has talent but is probably at least 2 to 3 months away from realising it.

devil saint · Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:14pm

Source ? I believe it and it is obviously the correct inclusion but before i get to happy that Raph has made way, would just like to be sure....

bigcarl · Post: # 541454Post **bigcarl** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:15pm

Dan Warna wrote:raph has talent but is probably at least 2 to 3 months away from realising it.

he'll be back, but probably a good call at this stage

yipper · Post: # 541456Post **yipper** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:17pm

Apparently confirmed. As I suspected, teams will be selected in accordance with who we play. Doggies have a smallish, pacy forward line - so Raph goes out. If it had been the Hawks - maybe he stays in??

Anyways - as close to full strength as I can remember. Only Bakes and Goose still to come in.

St Chris · Post: # 541457Post **St Chris** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:18pm

That's the Best 25* the Saints have put together for a long long time. Possible best ever...

*On paper - very good. Getting it done on Friday is another story.

saintsRrising · Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:21pm

devil saint wrote:Source ? I believe it and it is obviously the correct inclusion but before i get to happy that Raph has made way, would just like to be sure....

I have just logged in after hearing SEN confirm the Saints in and out after the 5 news.
BJ in
Raph out.

brown-coat · Post: # 541460Post **brown-coat** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:25pm

Keep that list together for the year and every other team is f***ed.

Raven · Post: # 541461Post **Raven** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:26pm

Don't forget Goose, he needs to come back too. Can't keep the team exactly like that.

devil saint · Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:29pm

saintsRrising wrote:
devil saint wrote:Source ? I believe it and it is obviously the correct inclusion but before i get to happy that Raph has made way, would just like to be sure....
I have just logged in after hearing SEN confirm the Saints in and out after the 5 news.
BJ in
Raph out.

Thank you.
To me that's the right move by RL. To be honest, BJ should have played last week against the blues who have a much less zippy overall side. This would have provided a great opportunity for BJ to find his feet.

devil saint · Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:32pm

yipper wrote:Apparently confirmed. As I suspected, teams will be selected in accordance with who we play. Doggies have a smallish, pacy forward line - so Raph goes out. If it had been the Hawks - maybe he stays in??

Anyways - as close to full strength as I can remember. Only Bakes and Goose still to come in.

Don't agree. We have a special side when fully fit & i'm certain that we dont need to play horses for courses.
Teams will be looking at ways to combat our strengths rather than having us tayloring our side

saintsRrising · Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:40pm

Goose and Baker.....both likely inclusions in a best 22....but will be a mighty tough decision on who gets omitted...

saintsrus · Post: # 541472Post **saintsrus** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:49pm

Welcome back BJ

Bad luck Raph, Gilbert lucky IMO

Solar · Post: # 541473Post **Solar** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 4:52pm

disapointing about raph, I hope the coaching staff will arm him with things to work with back in the seconds

Banger2Plugger · Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:01pm

mm interesting scenario

Bakes could possibly come in for Geary, and I think Fiora may even be at risk on his return...
As for making way for Goose - the only person I can think of could possibly be Blake...
Surely Ross wouldn't drop a Ruck ???

Thoughts?????? (assuming no injuries)

Gilbert=Legend · Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:05pm

Its about time he was dropped, that being Raph. I have said since i started in this forum that he should be dropped and its about time, i dont see him getting back in the team for a while as two of our certain starters will be back in hopefully r4 and 5

Ross should not drop one of our ruckman, we have worked too long without ruckman to jsut go and drop one of them

karnaby · Post: # 541482Post **karnaby** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:10pm

Solar wrote:disapointing about raph, I hope the coaching staff will arm him with things to work with back in the seconds

Agree Solar. I also hope that he makes every effort to force his way back into the team by virtue of consistently good performances for Casey.

Happy to see BJ back.

chook23 · Post: # 541483Post **chook23** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:12pm

Good to see BJ back.

As mentioned earlier in thread was hitting his peak at time of injury.

Must bear in mind that most coming back from ACL take time to hit straps.

Lenny a prime example....

BJ most likely will as well.

I think Raph is coming along ok.....unlike some posters.

Will be disappointed not being with his brother for 100th....

Armoooo · Post: # 541484Post **Armoooo** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:13pm

SaintBot wrote:ST KILDA
B: Blake, Hudghton, Geary
HB: Gram, S.Fisher, Gilbert
C: X.Clarke, Montagna, Dal Santo
HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Schneider
F: Milne, Koschitzke, Gehrig
FOLL: King, Hayes, Ball
I/C: M.Gardiner, L.Fisher, Fiora, Goddard
EMG: C.Gardiner, Jones, R.Clarke
IN: Goddard
OUT: R.Clarke

That is as close to a full strength St.Kilda side as I think I have ever seen!!

SaintBot · Post: # 541485Post **SaintBot** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:15pm

two of blake, geary, lfisher, fiora, gilbert to make way for Maguire and Baker

saintsRrising · Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:17pm

What we are now seeing is true depth emerging at the Saints...

st_Trav_ofWA · Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:18pm

hows the luck of poor old charlie gardnier couldnt crack the Geelong seniors team and looks like being in the same possition at the saints

Ghost Like · Post: # 541489Post **Ghost Like** » Thu 03 Apr 2008 5:24pm

I'm also disappointed that Raph got the chop, I see a huge upside to him and believe we are lucky to have him. You only have to look at his brother, plenty were ready to write him off but a bit more maturity, a good fitness base and run with injuries and we're starting to see why he was a high draft pick.

I have absolute faith in RL's judgement and can only summise that the entire list is well aware of what's required and expected to wear the jumper whilst under his reign.

I cannot complain about his replacement, good luck on your return BJ.