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i put this at the start of the thread to see that it is clearly premediated, there was NO attempt to go for the ball.
also the words:
For those claiming it's Riewoldt's marking style that is putting him danger, note Riewoldt is vertical until Bolton catches him behind the right knee with his right elbow
for those who think its an accident or part of the game, what coach will ask a forward to get airborne for a mark?
clearly 1 man was going for hte ball and one wasn't.
some say what chance did bolton have? how phuckingstupid do you have to be? sorry reiwoldt would like to apologise for 1. playing the ball, 2 being tall, 3. being athletic.
st kilda will now sack anyone with a vertical leap above 2 cm, so loser hack snipers like bolton can have a fair chance at the ball.
phuckiing retards shyteforbrains donkeys.
honestly I do hope a sydney player gets cleaned up on the weekend, hard.
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Bewaire krime, da krimson bolt is comeing to yure nayborhood to smach krime
RICHMOND forward Matthew Richardson said yesterday the AFL should act decisively to prevent any use of the controversial tactic of "tunnelling" in marking contests.
"Tunnelling" involves taking a player's body under the ball while he is in the air, and carries the risk of the target landing heavily while unprotected.
Richardson said the player going for a mark should not be subjected to unfair interference. Being thrown off balance while in the air could lead to a high risk of serious injury, he said.
"Once you're in the air and your feet are off the ground, if you get taken off balance, you've got no control how you land," Richardson said. "So it's not something you'd want to happen. You'd get blokes landing and doing their knees. Once a guy is in the air and going for a mark, if he's pushed, it gets dangerous."
Richardson, who is in his 16th AFL season, said he had no personal concerns as he felt the tactic had only ever been used against him once or twice over that time. But he had seen it used in ruck contests.
The tactic has come under the spotlight after St Kilda alleged it was used against Nick Riewoldt in last Saturday night's game against Sydney. They say the tactic was used against Riewoldt on occasions last year as well.
The Saints are putting together a case to take to the AFL umpiring department later this week.
The umpiring department has admitted that free kicks could have been paid to Riewoldt against his immediate opponent, Craig Bolton, in two incidents in the second half of the game.
In both of them, Bolton used his body to nudge Riewoldt under the ball, causing the Saint to land heavily. In one case, Riewoldt's head appeared to contact with the ground.
But Bolton insists he has never practised or been instructed to use the tactic, which was banned in basketball. "No, definitely not," said Bolton when asked if the Sydney defenders had worked on pushing into their opponents as they marked, something Saints' chief executive Archie Fraser claims had endangered Riewoldt.
"Sometimes you back into a contest and it happens (an opponent will flip over) but if the insinuation is that you are trying to do that or hurt him, then no way," Bolton said.
Bolton was adamant there was nothing premeditated about any contests in which Riewoldt fell awkwardly last Saturday night. "The first thing I really knew about it (St Kilda's complaint) was by reading about it, so it's a bit hard to really say what the problem is," he said. "But, if it happened more than once, then it was a coincidence."
Swans coach Paul Roos was equally nonplussed by the accusation. "I played a lot of basketball as a kid and, to be quite honest, I've never heard of tunnelling," he said. "I must admit I would like some clarification from the St Kilda footy club because if they are saying that anyone would go out to deliberately hurt someone, then, that's a big call."
Roos is a close friend of St Kilda coach Ross Lyon, a former Swans assistant, and worked for Fraser during his playing days with Fitzroy selling office equipment. "I don't know if Archie is dirty on me because I didn't sell enough photocopiers but, at some stage, I'll have a word to Ross about it," Roos said.
Roos and Bolton yesterday reviewed the incidents during their regular post-match analysis. Roos said that on one occasion, the ball had been kicked over Riewoldt's head, Bolton judged the flight better, spun in the air attempting to go backwards and put a hand on the St Kilda forward to steady himself.
"Craig pushes him in the hip but it's only to keep his balance, not to push over Nick," he said.
Roos was hopeful any review would not put more pressure on his relatively short key defenders. "Hopefully, St Kilda are just looking for some sort of clarification about the rule. We might have to get the same thing and we can all move on."
St Kilda's communications manager Matt Schmidt said yesterday the football department was putting together a package from the game that it would present to the AFL umpiring department.
Schmidt said the club had not been unduly concerned for Riewoldt's safety during the game but it believed "the tactics are dangerous".
AFL spokesman Patrick Keane said the league was already aware of the tactic as it applied to ruck contests. There were examples provided in the DVD sent by the umpiring department to clubs clarifying aspects of the rules of the game.
He said the umpiring department had already reviewed the St Kilda-Sydney game and "it was their view that the officiating umpires should have paid one, and maybe two, free kicks" to Riewoldt.
Interference with a player going for a mark, or with a ruckman with eyes for the ball in a ruck contest, should result in a free kick, Keane said, "because the player in the air is vulnerable".
The incidents were judged as "a missed free kick", he said, nothing more, nothing less.
Keane said the AFL had not received any complaints from other clubs about the tactic, but the league was concerned about anything that "can potentially cause injury".
■The Saints announced new contracts for midfielders Lenny Hayes and Leigh Montagna yesterday.
The Saints were rapt to secure vice-captain and prime mover Hayes until the end of 2011 and the much-improved Montagna until the end of 2010.
The deals secured the group drafted from 1998-2001 in a bid to steer the club to its second premiership.
The other members are captain Nick Riewoldt, Justin Koschitzke, Nick Dal Santo, Luke Ball and Matt Maguire.
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"
However, freedom of expression is not encouraged in certain forums.
It's a massive no-no in basketball. In fact, I'm not sure if you remember but it started a blue in a pre-Olympics warm-up match between the Dream Team and the Boomers in the US in 1996. Charles Barkley kept taking Shane Heal's legs out from underneath him. Heal, never one to take a backward step, turned around and called the oaf an MFCS (expletive ammended). When Barkley asked him what he said, Heal repeated it. The benches were cleared within seconds.
Still waiting for closure ... if you get my drift.
I was playing bball a few years back when a teammate slipped and took out a blokes legs who was going for a lay-up, the dude landed on his head and began convulsing and spasaming.
With the height Roo jumps.....that same outcome is very possible.
Bolton knew what he was doing, he was outmatched and outclassed so he resorted to dirty scum tactics.
Can't wait till we play them next time.....boooooooooooossss all round.
I don't care whether you follow St.Kilda, Sydney or any of the other 14 teams in the competition. How can anyone see that footage and still manage to mount a defence for Bolton.
"Swans coach Paul Roos was equally nonplussed by the accusation. "I played a lot of basketball as a kid and, to be quite honest, I've never heard of tunnelling," he said."
He's got to be kidding, I've never played basketball and I've heard it often. Tooter!
stinger wrote:
"Sometimes you back into a contest and it happens (an opponent will flip over) but if the insinuation is that you are trying to do that or hurt him, then no way," Bolton said.
Is it just me, or are some people missing the point. If someone takes your legs out from in front of you, your can put your arms out, prepare for the impact a little bit, and break your fall.
If your legs are taken out from behind, the only thing breaking your fall is your head or your neck.
I saw a BF post yesterday comparing Roo and Bolton to Nathan Carroll and Buddy in Sunday's game. Carroll tried to block Franklin's run at the ball by jumping into the space in front of him, and in turn became a step ladder.
Totally different situations, and only one of these is gonna end up with someone becoming a quadraplegic.
The way i see it is if a player involved it a contest makes no attempt at the ball and instead focusses on the body of his opponent it is a free kick as simple as that.
To me it is no different (Rules wise) than a push in the back or a player making deliberate front on contact with a player trying to take a mark without any intention to spoil
Tunneling by the Swans on Roo is an extension of what was happening to him most of last year.
Often on the hard lead the backmen would jump with Roo body on body and force him under the ball and miss the mark. My thinking at the time was that he was misjudging the leap - but now that Archer and Wakelin have fessed up to it as a tactic, it now makes a lot more sense.
The Swans however have gone too far by taking his legs out and flipping him over.
stinger wrote:
"Sometimes you back into a contest and it happens (an opponent will flip over) but if the insinuation is that you are trying to do that or hurt him, then no way," Bolton said.
Is it just me, or are some people missing the point. If someone takes your legs out from in front of you, your can put your arms out, prepare for the impact a little bit, and break your fall.
If your legs are taken out from behind, the only thing breaking your fall is your head or your neck.
I saw a BF post yesterday comparing Roo and Bolton to Nathan Carroll and Buddy in Sunday's game. Carroll tried to block Franklin's run at the ball by jumping into the space in front of him, and in turn became a step ladder.
Totally different situations, and only one of these is gonna end up with someone becoming a quadraplegic.
exactly
Bewaire krime, da krimson bolt is comeing to yure nayborhood to smach krime
