so whats the score on this goal difference balony?
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so whats the score on this goal difference balony?
Ah, the NAB cup and its stupid have to be different crap.
If we win friday, where do we sit goal wise. I understand the team with the most goals hosts the GF? Great idea that one, just another bolt of genius from those that must keep tampering.
Hmmm, I dunno, maybe we have dome enough this pre season, I want to win, but I feel dirty cause I just dont know how much I want a win. Really, Ill settle for no injuries and some luke ball kicking that would clear the back fence in my backyard. Good luck bally!!
If we win friday, where do we sit goal wise. I understand the team with the most goals hosts the GF? Great idea that one, just another bolt of genius from those that must keep tampering.
Hmmm, I dunno, maybe we have dome enough this pre season, I want to win, but I feel dirty cause I just dont know how much I want a win. Really, Ill settle for no injuries and some luke ball kicking that would clear the back fence in my backyard. Good luck bally!!
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Saints win - we play in NAB grand Final on March 8th
Crows win - we play in Grand Final in Adelaide on March 8th ( and the boys make a quick trip back for family day) March 9th
Hawks Win- we play in grand final at Telstra Dome on March 8th ( and the boys behave themselves till after Family day on March 9th)
Saints lose - and the team resumes training next week for Round 1 March 22nd as they precede the Bunny.![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
UNLESS we positively thrash the bombers and we play the Crows at Telstra Dome
Crows win - we play in Grand Final in Adelaide on March 8th ( and the boys make a quick trip back for family day) March 9th
Hawks Win- we play in grand final at Telstra Dome on March 8th ( and the boys behave themselves till after Family day on March 9th)
Saints lose - and the team resumes training next week for Round 1 March 22nd as they precede the Bunny.
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
UNLESS we positively thrash the bombers and we play the Crows at Telstra Dome
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iwantmeseats wrote:and crows get it at home cause they have kicked more goals ? Absolute genius that one. Thank god its only the pleb cup!
Seems pretty fair to me mate.
So u think it should automatically be a saints home game even if the crows kick more goals can i ask why???????????
I'm happy to go to adelaide if they've scored more i mean it's not the real season it's a national competition why does the gf have to be in melb.
Top goal scorer makes it fair for every1.
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If it can beat Hawthorn in a semi-final on Saturday night, again at home, it will most likely top the scoring for the pre-season series, which determines which state hosts the final. Adelaide has kicked 240 points in its two matches. Essendon is next highest on 213, followed by St Kilda on 202 and Hawthorn on 155.thequarry wrote:In the Age today they were talking most points scored on aggregate as the measure? Which wouldn't differ too much from goal difference, but it might have some impact.
Re: so whats the score on this goal difference balony?
And how would you do it. Just give it to a Victorian side. Sounds fair to me.iwantmeseats wrote:Ah, the NAB cup and its stupid have to be different crap.
If we win friday, where do we sit goal wise. I understand the team with the most goals hosts the GF? Great idea that one, just another bolt of genius from those that must keep tampering.
Hmmm, I dunno, maybe we have dome enough this pre season, I want to win, but I feel dirty cause I just dont know how much I want a win. Really, Ill settle for no injuries and some luke ball kicking that would clear the back fence in my backyard. Good luck bally!!
What would be wrong with basing it on percentages of the two final teams?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
It only gets down to 2 teams and there is 3 games to determine the top scoring side. If Adelaide lose this week it is at Teltra dome.Iceman234 wrote:What would be wrong with basing it on percentages of the two final teams?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
The reason the have the highest score because in preseason they want to promote higher scoring. If it was percentage I would suggest adelaide would still be in front anyway. Only a guess though.
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Stupid, stupid system...
As people have said conditions and game plan come into it too much...
As people have said conditions and game plan come into it too much...
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Clearly no stadium is booked in for the final.plugger66 wrote:It a practice match series and how would you do it.Armoooo wrote:Stupid, stupid system...
As people have said conditions and game plan come into it too much...
So if it came down to two finalists being from different states, I would base the home ground advantage on percentage of their first three games - not "my goal scoring is bigger than yours".
Simple.
Haven't looked up percentages (because I can't find them googling it) - but Adelaide may well have the higher percentage - if they do - or Hawthorn - or Essendon - or Saints - well they deserve to host the GF.plugger66 wrote:It only gets down to 2 teams and there is 3 games to determine the top scoring side. If Adelaide lose this week it is at Teltra dome.Iceman234 wrote:What would be wrong with basing it on percentages of the two final teams?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
The reason the have the highest score because in preseason they want to promote higher scoring. If it was percentage I would suggest adelaide would still be in front anyway. Only a guess though.
Just yet another sh1t system though if it's based on highest score or highest number of goals. We base our whole ladder system on percentage then they bring this rubbish in.
So why so they schedule games in areas that MAY be subject to disgraceful wet/hot/dehydrating conditions?
UAE played into the hands of Adelaide but it could have been so suppressive that players could have dried out and the game produced 15 goals.
Darwin is prone to having torrential tropical rains where a game might produce 8 - 10 goals.
TD with the roof on may produce 40+ goals.
Does this mean the teams haven't tried to produce their best efforts?
Does this show the AFL has given every team a fair crack at hosting the final?
I'm playing the Devil's advocate cos I really don't care where it's played, but I question the foolish thoughts behind the concept.
UAE played into the hands of Adelaide but it could have been so suppressive that players could have dried out and the game produced 15 goals.
Darwin is prone to having torrential tropical rains where a game might produce 8 - 10 goals.
TD with the roof on may produce 40+ goals.
Does this mean the teams haven't tried to produce their best efforts?
Does this show the AFL has given every team a fair crack at hosting the final?
I'm playing the Devil's advocate cos I really don't care where it's played, but I question the foolish thoughts behind the concept.
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It a practice game. Not saying you but I wonder why people follow the best competition in Australia when all they do is bag it. Me thinks it may have do with our inability to win a flag. Maybe if we were more positive we will finally win the stupid thing.Iceman234 wrote:Haven't looked up percentages (because I can't find them googling it) - but Adelaide may well have the higher percentage - if they do - or Hawthorn - or Essendon - or Saints - well they deserve to host the GF.plugger66 wrote:It only gets down to 2 teams and there is 3 games to determine the top scoring side. If Adelaide lose this week it is at Teltra dome.Iceman234 wrote:What would be wrong with basing it on percentages of the two final teams?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
The reason the have the highest score because in preseason they want to promote higher scoring. If it was percentage I would suggest adelaide would still be in front anyway. Only a guess though.
Just yet another sh1t system though if it's based on highest score or highest number of goals. We base our whole ladder system on percentage then they bring this rubbish in.
Spot on Ice.Iceman234 wrote:So why so they schedule games in areas that MAY be subject to disgraceful wet/hot/dehydrating conditions?
UAE played into the hands of Adelaide but it could have been so suppressive that players could have dried out and the game produced 15 goals.
Darwin is prone to having torrential tropical rains where a game might produce 8 - 10 goals.
TD with the roof on may produce 40+ goals.
Does this mean the teams haven't tried to produce their best efforts?
Does this show the AFL has given every team a fair crack at hosting the final?
I'm playing the Devil's advocate cos I really don't care where it's played, but I question the foolish thoughts behind the concept.
Too many variances in the location for that rule to apply. Would be better tossing a coin.
Glad it's not aimed at me P66.plugger66 wrote:It a practice game. Not saying you but I wonder why people follow the best competition in Australia when all they do is bag it. Me thinks it may have do with our inability to win a flag. Maybe if we were more positive we will finally win the stupid thing.Iceman234 wrote:Haven't looked up percentages (because I can't find them googling it) - but Adelaide may well have the higher percentage - if they do - or Hawthorn - or Essendon - or Saints - well they deserve to host the GF.plugger66 wrote:It only gets down to 2 teams and there is 3 games to determine the top scoring side. If Adelaide lose this week it is at Teltra dome.Iceman234 wrote:What would be wrong with basing it on percentages of the two final teams?
A team can get a good run with grounds and weather conditions and kick say 25 goals to 23, boosting their aggregate points for, but crap percentage.
Another game could be played in atrocious conditions and have a team kick 8 goals to 4.
Why should the team that kicked 8 goals be penalised?
The reason the have the highest score because in preseason they want to promote higher scoring. If it was percentage I would suggest adelaide would still be in front anyway. Only a guess though.
Just yet another sh1t system though if it's based on highest score or highest number of goals. We base our whole ladder system on percentage then they bring this rubbish in.
I love our game, love our club.
Nothing to do with our inability to win a flag.
FFS we may not be in the GF of the plastic cup.
But if we are - and IF we had a better percentage of, say Adelaide, I would be disappointed with the AFL for their shizzit system of hosting the GF because Adelaide (for example) had kicked three more goals but had a percentage that was below ours.
If I supported Essendon I would feel the same.
If I supported Adelaide and they had to play at TD because of the same issue - I would feel the same.
Sorry to be negative about the AFL P66 but I jsut can't see the logic in this.
And while I'm at it
Just watching/listening to the Adelaide/Freo game.
Commentators made a comment re - and I missed which team they referred to - "they played shorter quarters in Round 1 because of the heat"
I would assume it would be Adelaide in UAE. Whoever it was it would clearly impact on their goal scoring ability.
Anyone know?
Just watching/listening to the Adelaide/Freo game.
Commentators made a comment re - and I missed which team they referred to - "they played shorter quarters in Round 1 because of the heat"
I would assume it would be Adelaide in UAE. Whoever it was it would clearly impact on their goal scoring ability.
Anyone know?