Our Best 22 - Depth is Good
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Our Best 22 - Depth is Good
Afte the first 2 NAB games it is obvious our depth is excellent.
If our fitness staff do their job and we have some luck it will be a difficult Thursday night each week for the selection committee:
After much deliberation here is my attempt:
Can't believe that I cannot fit Schneider or Geary in at this stage!
B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker
HB: S.Fisher Maguire Gram
C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
HF: C. Gardiner Riewoldt X.Clarke
F: Milne Gehrig Koschitske
R: King Harvey Ball
I/C: Goddard Blake M.Gardiner R.Clarke
Emerg: Schneider, Armitage, Birss, Dempster, Fiora, L.Fisher, Geary, Gwilt, C.Jones, Rix, J.Allen, Ferguson
If our fitness staff do their job and we have some luck it will be a difficult Thursday night each week for the selection committee:
After much deliberation here is my attempt:
Can't believe that I cannot fit Schneider or Geary in at this stage!
B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker
HB: S.Fisher Maguire Gram
C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
HF: C. Gardiner Riewoldt X.Clarke
F: Milne Gehrig Koschitske
R: King Harvey Ball
I/C: Goddard Blake M.Gardiner R.Clarke
Emerg: Schneider, Armitage, Birss, Dempster, Fiora, L.Fisher, Geary, Gwilt, C.Jones, Rix, J.Allen, Ferguson
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Re: Our Best 22 - Depth is Good
Not bad however i would like a harder edge up forward rotating the likes of Hayes/Dalsanto/Ball/Joey/Harvey/X through hF/FP/Bench.ashjam wrote:Afte the first 2 NAB games it is obvious our depth is excellent.
If our fitness staff do their job and we have some luck it will be a difficult Thursday night each week for the selection committee:
After much deliberation here is my attempt:
Can't believe that I cannot fit Schneider or Geary in at this stage!
B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker
HB: S.Fisher Maguire Gram
C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
HF: C. Gardiner Riewoldt X.Clarke
F: Milne Gehrig Koschitske
R: King Harvey Ball
I/C: Goddard Blake M.Gardiner R.Clarke
Emerg: Schneider, Armitage, Birss, Dempster, Fiora, L.Fisher, Geary, Gwilt, C.Jones, Rix, J.Allen, Ferguson
B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker
HB:Geary S.Fisher R.Clarke
C: Gram Hayes C.Jones
HF: Schneider Riewoldt X.Clarke
F: Ball Koschitske C.Gardiner
R: King Dal Santo Montagna
I/C: Goddard Harvey M.Gardiner Maguire
Emerg: Armitage, Dempster, Fiora, J.Allen, Ferguson
lot of hard running midfielders rotate through ff/fp/bench gives us a harder edge up forward to hold ball in.
I'm not sold on Gtrain/Milne combo as ball comes out without real effort from same.
Kossie unlike GTrain, hits pack hard opening up many opportunities.
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Assuming everyone is 100% fit
B: S.Fisher, Hudghton, R.Clarke
HB: Gram, Maguire, Goddard
C: X.Clarke, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, C.Gardiner
F: Gehrig, Koschitzke, Milne
Foll: King, Ball, Dal Santo
Int: Baker, Blake, Gilbert, Harvey
We now have plenty of AFL standard players outside of our best 22. Charlie Gardiner needs to keep up his good form, but he has been excellent so far and it would be incredibly tough not to name him.
Depth
B: Ferguson, Gwilt, Attard
HB: L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster
C: McQualter, Armitage, Eddy
HF: Fiora, Allen, Jones
F: Steven, McEvoy, Connors
Foll: M.Gardiner, Birss, Geary
Int: Chivers, Howard, Rix, Van Rheenen
Emg: Haretuku
Of the depth team, I would have no issue if Attard, L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster, Armitage, Eddy, Fiora, M.Gardiner, Birss or Geary played the majority of the season in the seniors. Ferguson, Gwilt, McQualter, Allen, Jones and Steven can all come in occasionally and hold their own as well.
B: S.Fisher, Hudghton, R.Clarke
HB: Gram, Maguire, Goddard
C: X.Clarke, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, C.Gardiner
F: Gehrig, Koschitzke, Milne
Foll: King, Ball, Dal Santo
Int: Baker, Blake, Gilbert, Harvey
We now have plenty of AFL standard players outside of our best 22. Charlie Gardiner needs to keep up his good form, but he has been excellent so far and it would be incredibly tough not to name him.
Depth
B: Ferguson, Gwilt, Attard
HB: L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster
C: McQualter, Armitage, Eddy
HF: Fiora, Allen, Jones
F: Steven, McEvoy, Connors
Foll: M.Gardiner, Birss, Geary
Int: Chivers, Howard, Rix, Van Rheenen
Emg: Haretuku
Of the depth team, I would have no issue if Attard, L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster, Armitage, Eddy, Fiora, M.Gardiner, Birss or Geary played the majority of the season in the seniors. Ferguson, Gwilt, McQualter, Allen, Jones and Steven can all come in occasionally and hold their own as well.
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Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...
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you might be right, but the signs so far are good. also, don't forget allen. a decent size and seems to know where the goals areArmoooo wrote:Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...
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Obviously we have a few players that pick themselves but I do believe players like Baker and Maguire may have to work hard to be 'automatic' selections. By this I mean, if Geary or Armitage are playing well...Bakes may need some compromising pics of Ross to get back in and if Max is fit and Charlie and Dempster make the most of the first couple of rounds before Goose is fit he may have to borrow those pics.
Round 1
Gilbo Max Raph
Geary S. Fisher Gram
Joey Hayes X
Charlie Riewoldt Schneider
Milne Kosi G
King Dal Ball
Gardiner Armo Blake Harves
Fiora Allen Dempster
Baker (Susp) Maguire (Inj.) Goddard (Inj.)
Round 1
Gilbo Max Raph
Geary S. Fisher Gram
Joey Hayes X
Charlie Riewoldt Schneider
Milne Kosi G
King Dal Ball
Gardiner Armo Blake Harves
Fiora Allen Dempster
Baker (Susp) Maguire (Inj.) Goddard (Inj.)
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Don't listen - they are just annoyed that we have him as he is coming into his prime. No Cat fan could have been disappointed with Gardiner's efforts last season as he played consistently well. He picked up a career high 19 disposals in rnd 2 and was then dropped to the twos where he kicked 40 goals yet couldn't make it back to the senior squad. Played in the Cats VFL premiers and named in the best 10 timesArmoooo wrote:Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...
They also tried to build him up & make him into a CHF, which he clearly is not! He's fined down with us & is playing that more mobile role that he suits.TwoTowers wrote:Don't listen - they are just annoyed that we have him as he is coming into his prime. No Cat fan could have been disappointed with Gardiner's efforts last season as he played consistently well. He picked up a career high 19 disposals in rnd 2 and was then dropped to the twos where he kicked 40 goals yet couldn't make it back to the senior squad. Played in the Cats VFL premiers and named in the best 10 timesArmoooo wrote:Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...
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Here's a second 22, which is what we can expect to see happen if we get injuries, as far as replacements go.
B: Blake Miles Geary
HB: Dempster Gwilt Ferguson
C: Fiora Armitage Jones
HF: C. Gardiner Allen Steven
F: Connors McEvoy Eddy
Foll: Rix, Birss, McQualter
IC: Van Rheenen, Chivers, Howard, Attard
B: Blake Miles Geary
HB: Dempster Gwilt Ferguson
C: Fiora Armitage Jones
HF: C. Gardiner Allen Steven
F: Connors McEvoy Eddy
Foll: Rix, Birss, McQualter
IC: Van Rheenen, Chivers, Howard, Attard
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My two Cents Worth
L.Fisher Maxy Goddard
S.Fisher Maguire R.Clarke
X.Clarke Ball Montagna
C.Gardiner Riewoldt Gilbert
Gehrig Kosi Schneider
King Hayes Dal Santo
I/C M.Gardiner Baker Geary Harvey
I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.
Actually I think a long kicking, fast paced and hard tackling side will win the flag (for a change !
). This is our best chance to win the flag in my time (I'm just under 30yo). Our gaping weaknesses look potentially covered (ruck, small forwards and Tall Defenders). The Key will be the Clarkes (esp. X.) Montagna, Dal and a fit Ball getting protected in the middle and hitting the forwards on the tit inside 50 rather than on the wings as has been the case in the past.
Still think we will lose against the Bombers next week though (cash would be nice but really couldn't give a toss!)
L.Fisher Maxy Goddard
S.Fisher Maguire R.Clarke
X.Clarke Ball Montagna
C.Gardiner Riewoldt Gilbert
Gehrig Kosi Schneider
King Hayes Dal Santo
I/C M.Gardiner Baker Geary Harvey
I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.
Actually I think a long kicking, fast paced and hard tackling side will win the flag (for a change !
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Still think we will lose against the Bombers next week though (cash would be nice but really couldn't give a toss!)
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wouldn't have put it quite like that but..................Scum wrote:Gram on the fringes? Are you on crack?jackal wrote:
I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.
gram is easily in the best 12 players, and is vital for the make up of the team, people are quick to dismiss
again with the milne bashers, milne to me is absolute must in our best 22
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Gram and Milne are BEHIND Jones and Blake.Scum wrote:
I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.
Surely you're kidding.
Jones is improving, and Blake isn't the deasd weight he sometimes appears to be but Milne is an absolute game winner and Gram is crucial for our current game plan.
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I think he meant that just behind Gram and Fiora are Blake and Jones....riccardo wrote:Gram and Milne are BEHIND Jones and Blake.Scum wrote:
I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.
Surely you're kidding.
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One change in original team - Max OUT Leigh Fisher IN
Don't get too carried away with our "depth". As all the teams which have won the last 111 premiership demonstrate, the best team with the least injuries wins the flag. Each year there are about four or fives teams which, given their best squads, could win the flag. Of these, the one with the least injuries, wins.
If someone can provide me with the team that had four of their top ten out and still won the flag, then I will recant.
Don't get too carried away with our "depth". As all the teams which have won the last 111 premiership demonstrate, the best team with the least injuries wins the flag. Each year there are about four or fives teams which, given their best squads, could win the flag. Of these, the one with the least injuries, wins.
If someone can provide me with the team that had four of their top ten out and still won the flag, then I will recant.
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I disagree with that, a Cats fan at my work was totally gutted to lose Charlie.Armoooo wrote:Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...
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I think having Roo and Gardiner in the team will be great. It frees Riewoldt up from his duties as a linkman on the wing, and he can stay closer to goal.hAyES wrote:If Charlie Gardiner were still on the Cats people would be talking about how **** he is and that he has accomplished nothing. With Roo, Kosi and Gehrig I don't think there's room for Mr. Gardiner.
C. Gardiner will play as a HFF/Wing, and may kick a few goals, but he should be focusing on goal assists and I50's.