So, a win over the Cats this week will mean what??

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So, a win over the Cats this week will mean what??

Post: # 521901Post yipper »

Will the lid come off already!!?? :lol: or will it just be the NAB crap cup and mean nothing? From a marketing perspective - it will be like liquid gold with membership sales going right off and merchandise etc. crowds will flock to see the re-invigorated saints strut their stuff at the Dome!!

But, the most important result - will be for the players I reckon. Confidence - when this team has it, they are very, very good. They will get another shot in the arm from a win over the Cats - without a bevy of stars. There are players playing for spots in the team - even careers. There will be plenty of upside to a NAB cup win this weekend. If we lose, then no harm done as well in real terms - although the marketing team will gnash their teeth at an opportunity lost.


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yipper I would be suprised if we did but

I would like to see us ramp it up and look for the 300k for winning the cup, nice little earner plus imagine the membership sales!


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Post: # 521908Post saintsRrising »

I don't care if we win or not....but yes it would be nice.

What I care about is seeing how the fringe and developing players go against a better opponent than the Tigers.


For example

*Geary looked really good against the Tigers....but can he play that well against the Cat's.

* Blake played quite well acroos HB....but will playing against a better team see his hesistation return?
*Clinton Jones racked up 21 disposals and was quite creative with his hanballs. will greater pressure see him flonder?

*Charlie was good.....can he earn us much ball againsta tighter Carts backline?

*X man was very good as full time mid. Can he do this again?


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Post: # 521909Post Solar »

[quote="saintsRrising"]I don't care if we win or not....but yes it would be nice.

What I care about is seeing how the fringe and developing players go against a better opponent than the Tigers.


For example

*Geary looked really good against the Tigers....but can he play that well against the Cat's.

* Blake played quite well acroos HB....but will playing against a better team see his hesistation return?
*Clinton Jones racked up 21 disposals and was quite creative with his hanballs. will greater pressure see him flonder?

*Charlie was good.....can he earn us much ball againsta tighter Carts backline?

*X man was very good as full time mid. Can he do this again?


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will also be interesting to see if gram gets any time on the ball, same with gilbert. With geary pushing for selection we could afford to switch one of these two into the midfield rotation


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Re: So, a win over the Cats this week will mean what??

Post: # 521910Post The Peanut »

yipper wrote:Will the lid come off already!!?? :lol: or will it just be the NAB crap cup and mean nothing? From a marketing perspective - it will be like liquid gold with membership sales going right off and merchandise etc. crowds will flock to see the re-invigorated saints strut their stuff at the Dome!!

But, the most important result - will be for the players I reckon. Confidence - when this team has it, they are very, very good. They will get another shot in the arm from a win over the Cats - without a bevy of stars. There are players playing for spots in the team - even careers. There will be plenty of upside to a NAB cup win this weekend. If we lose, then no harm done as well in real terms - although the marketing team will gnash their teeth at an opportunity lost.
Exactly
I reckon our players are the most confident I can ever remember but the Cats rightful confidence is starting to smell of a slight hint of arrogance in the press reports this week. - Bring it on.


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Post: # 521911Post Otiman »

It's all relative.

If we get pumped and show that we can't handle the pressure, i'll be disappointed.

But if we try hard, keep up the effort and pressure, we will at least lose narrowly.

Our team has more best 22 players missing than theirs, and they're coming off a premiership, and a bigger win. It's only logical that they should be favourites to win.

However, regardless of a win or loss.

Gram will get a run.
Harvey, Raph and King will be rested.
Geary, Miles, Eddy, Armitage will get a game against some of the best mids (Sadly no Ablett or Bartel) and small forwards in the competition, expect Miles to play on S. Johnson for a portion of tomorrow's game.

As above, can the players who stood up last week, do so again under a high pressure situation. Richmond played very loose, whether that was their gameplan i've no idea, but it sure didn't work against us.


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Otiman wrote:. Richmond played very loose, whether that was their gameplan i've no idea, but it sure didn't work against us.
Don't think even Terry Wallet knows what the Richmond gameplan is!!


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Post: # 521916Post Otiman »

yipper wrote:Don't think even Terry Wallet knows what the Richmond gameplan is!!
The David King interview showed that it was pretty clear they had no gameplan.


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Post: # 521928Post stkfc1 »

Comparing the team they're putting on the park compared to ours,if we're still in it at 3/4 time i will be :D I agree with Miles down back, Grammy should get a run in the mid (If fitness allows) or even at hff.


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Otiman wrote:
yipper wrote:Don't think even Terry Wallet knows what the Richmond gameplan is!!
The David King interview showed that it was pretty clear they had no gameplan.
"Sucking" is not counted as a game plan, then? :wink: :lol:


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Post: # 521934Post Otiman »

That depends what the game is, Ric.


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Post: # 521935Post brown-coat »

Wallace is hiding his gamplan. It's obvious. He's waiting for the right time to unleash the tiger...roar...!!

Richmond will make the finals this year.


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Post: # 521936Post aussiejones »

Dont get too cocky about a win......

Richmond with no game plan = no opposition ..so discount last week
except ..the boys got a run , half our side was out

Just hope for no injuries and a good sustained effort

i would be happy with that.


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Post: # 521948Post Otiman »

us with a gameplan and no players, vs richmond with players and no gameplan.

Shows that the idiom of a champion team beating a team of champions still holds true in the current day of AFL.


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small forwards in the competition, expect Miles to play on S. Johnson for a portion of tomorrow's game.
Johnson is being rested along with Ottens and Bartel...
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Post: # 521974Post Otiman »

Oh well, perhaps he can visit him in the stands for a chat, maybe even give him a lift home from the game.


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Post: # 522031Post esaint66 »

i think it will do wonders for the confidence of the players no matter what side geelong put on the park. it will give the players the believe that yes we are an afl side and they can and will beat any team on any given day in the comp.

plus it will get those people in victoria who are unsure about signing up with us this season to think yes im supporting an emmerging talent here and i should be a apart of it plus as a little bonus our first 5 games are at the dome. :wink:


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Post: # 522060Post evertonfc »

I'd like to win - it would ensure a return to the Dome, another competitive hitout, and could be worth 1500 or so memberships alone. Not to mention the money.

I won't lose sleep if we lose but I'd really like us to advance.


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evertonfc wrote:I'd like to win - it would ensure a return to the Dome, another competitive hitout, and could be worth 1500 or so memberships alone. Not to mention the money.

I won't lose sleep if we lose but I'd really like us to advance.
Yep. My thoughts exactly - just not at the expense of Rd. 1. So continue to monitor our guns and not risk anyone, at the same time ensuring everyone is fit and ready by March 22nd.


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Post: # 522073Post Armoooo »

I think everyone is on the money, considering their outs it should be an interesting match, both teams will be missing about 10 starting 22 players, maybe a couple less for Geelong but still, should be good to see how both teams reserves are developing...


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Armoooo wrote:I think everyone is on the money, considering their outs it should be an interesting match, both teams will be missing about 10 starting 22 players, maybe a couple less for Geelong but still, should be good to see how both teams reserves are developing...
They are missing 10 from the GF side so they are missing at least 10 plus Egan so it is very even.


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plugger66 wrote:
Armoooo wrote:I think everyone is on the money, considering their outs it should be an interesting match, both teams will be missing about 10 starting 22 players, maybe a couple less for Geelong but still, should be good to see how both teams reserves are developing...
They are missing 10 from the GF side so they are missing at least 10 plus Egan so it is very even.
Jeez, I didn't realise it was that many, you should also take out King though, so it's 10 players, but still that's quite a bit, I was thinking more like 7 or 8 players...


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Post: # 522118Post Zed »

if we win or get within say a couple of goals, it will mean that our depth is the best its been in my memory and we will be genuine contenders this year


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In my opinion as long as we play hard like we did last week, the skills are good and the players look like they have improved I could care less about the result.............if it was anyone else. I HATE the Cats with a violent passion and I hope we give them a good old hammering. But having said THAT its still a televised practice game with half a senior side so it could go either way.

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