where is matt ferguson?

st paddy · Post: # 520099Post **st paddy** » Sun 17 Feb 2008 10:12pm

havent heard anything about him at all this preseason...what's the story?

Eastern · Post: # 520104Post **Eastern** » Sun 17 Feb 2008 10:21pm

I'm guessing that he has some sort if niggling injury and is being nursed through pre-season !!

saintsRrising · Sun 17 Feb 2008 10:23pm

Injured.......

But sinking rapidly to the back of the queue....

On top of last years seniors.... for a spot on a HF or HB flank he now also has to displace Schneider, Geary, Dempster and C Gardiner..........

.........and that lightning quick rookie Luke Miles will be pushing for his spot in 2009...not to mention Eddy.

Huzzad · Post: # 520172Post **Huzzad** » Mon 18 Feb 2008 1:08am

I was incredibly surprised when we re-drafted him. Highly doubt he will make a senior appearance this year, and if he does it will be on the back of some serious injuries.

plugger66 · Post: # 520177Post **plugger66** » Mon 18 Feb 2008 7:21am

saintsRrising wrote:Injured.......

But sinking rapidly to the back of the queue....

On top of last years seniors.... for a spot on a HF or HB flank he now also has to displace Schneider, Geary, Dempster and C Gardiner..........

.........and that lightning quick rookie Luke Miles will be pushing for his spot in 2009...not to mention Eddy.

Not sure Scneider and Gardiner have much to do with Ferguson playing down back but yes the injury doesnt help him.

saintsRrising · Mon 18 Feb 2008 9:18am

plugger66 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Injured.......

But sinking rapidly to the back of the queue....

On top of last years seniors.... for a spot on a HF or HB flank he now also has to displace Schneider, Geary, Dempster and C Gardiner..........

.........and that lightning quick rookie Luke Miles will be pushing for his spot in 2009...not to mention Eddy.

Not sure Scneider and Gardiner have much to do with Ferguson playing down back but yes the injury doesnt help him.

You missed reading "for a spot on a HF or HB flank ".......

Ferg's fans on the site push for him to play as a forward.

When he was recuited he was a forward.....though has mainly played in the back half with us.

He is not a midfielder.

He is not a ruckman

He is not a KPP

This leaves the spots he can break into the team as FP, HFF, HBF, BP

Schneider and C Gardi both play FP and HFF roles......direct competiton and also indirect as it means that players such as BJ or Gilbert who can play both ends may not. Not to mention say the young Geary who is being played in the backline at present. Without Schneider and C Gardiner Geary may well have been being trialled now as a HFF.

bob__71 · Post: # 520194Post **bob__71** » Mon 18 Feb 2008 9:26am

Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole

saintsRrising · Mon 18 Feb 2008 9:51am

bob__71 wrote:Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole

I think our drafting last year was all in all sensational....so I am not going to quibble about Ferg being retained...or in Mini being rookied...

He has this year to bloom...or not.

If he can displace anyone it will because he is playing good footy.

plugger66 · Post: # 520322Post **plugger66** » Mon 18 Feb 2008 2:57pm

saintsRrising wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Injured.......

But sinking rapidly to the back of the queue....

On top of last years seniors.... for a spot on a HF or HB flank he now also has to displace Schneider, Geary, Dempster and C Gardiner..........

.........and that lightning quick rookie Luke Miles will be pushing for his spot in 2009...not to mention Eddy.

Not sure Scneider and Gardiner have much to do with Ferguson playing down back but yes the injury doesnt help him.
You missed reading "for a spot on a HF or HB flank ".......

Ferg's fans on the site push for him to play as a forward.

When he was recuited he was a forward.....though has mainly played in the back half with us.

He is not a midfielder.

He is not a ruckman

He is not a KPP

This leaves the spots he can break into the team as FP, HFF, HBF, BP

Schneider and C Gardi both play FP and HFF roles......direct competiton and also indirect as it means that players such as BJ or Gilbert who can play both ends may not. Not to mention say the young Geary who is being played in the backline at present. Without Schneider and C Gardiner Geary may well have been being trialled now as a HFF.

He is a backman. If he doesnt make it there he will not make it.

saintlee · Post: # 520324Post **saintlee** » Mon 18 Feb 2008 3:02pm

plugger66 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Injured.......

But sinking rapidly to the back of the queue....

On top of last years seniors.... for a spot on a HF or HB flank he now also has to displace Schneider, Geary, Dempster and C Gardiner..........

.........and that lightning quick rookie Luke Miles will be pushing for his spot in 2009...not to mention Eddy.

Not sure Scneider and Gardiner have much to do with Ferguson playing down back but yes the injury doesnt help him.
You missed reading "for a spot on a HF or HB flank ".......

Ferg's fans on the site push for him to play as a forward.

When he was recuited he was a forward.....though has mainly played in the back half with us.

He is not a midfielder.

He is not a ruckman

He is not a KPP

This leaves the spots he can break into the team as FP, HFF, HBF, BP

Schneider and C Gardi both play FP and HFF roles......direct competiton and also indirect as it means that players such as BJ or Gilbert who can play both ends may not. Not to mention say the young Geary who is being played in the backline at present. Without Schneider and C Gardiner Geary may well have been being trialled now as a HFF.
He is a backman. If he doesnt make it there he will not make it.

Can't see him making it myself.....

saintsRrising · Mon 18 Feb 2008 4:22pm

plugger66 wrote:
He is a backman. If he doesnt make it there he will not make it.

Well I would not disagree...but then I would not have re-drafted him either.

saintsRrising · Mon 18 Feb 2008 4:49pm

St Fid as you do not get my comment on Ferg being re-drafted...he was delisted in 2006..and then redrafted.

2006 Draft

5 72 Hawthorn PASS
5 73 Richmond Andrew Collins Richmond
5 74 St Kilda Matthew Ferguson St Kilda
5 75 Collingwood PASS
5 76

I know that you rate him..but fact is that he was delsited and then re-drafted.

saintsRrising · Mon 18 Feb 2008 4:50pm

Note..there was a post by St Fid that I was replying to a question that he asked...but it has now gone????

mad saint guy · Mon 18 Feb 2008 4:55pm

bob__71 wrote:Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole

Aaron Edwards, David Rodan, Adam Cockshell, Anthony Corrie, Leigh Adams, Jamie McNamara, Michael Jamison, Jake King, Jarrod Harbrow, Andrew Foster, Matt Campbell, Chad Jones, Tom Lonergan and Tom Collier were all available at Ferguson's pick, and they seem to be doing alright.

CURLY · Post: # 520568Post **CURLY** » Tue 19 Feb 2008 7:25am

mad saint guy wrote:
bob__71 wrote:Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole
Aaron Edwards, David Rodan, Adam Cockshell, Anthony Corrie, Leigh Adams, Jamie McNamara, Michael Jamison, Jake King, Jarrod Harbrow, Andrew Foster, Matt Campbell, Chad Jones, Tom Lonergan and Tom Collier were all available at Ferguson's pick, and they seem to be doing alright.

How many of the above list would be in our best 22? They all at best are valuable back up the same as Ferg is.

saint66au · Post: # 520569Post **saint66au** » Tue 19 Feb 2008 7:47am

mad saint guy wrote:
bob__71 wrote:Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole
Aaron Edwards, David Rodan, Adam Cockshell, Anthony Corrie, Leigh Adams, Jamie McNamara, Michael Jamison, Jake King, Jarrod Harbrow, Andrew Foster, Matt Campbell, Chad Jones, Tom Lonergan and Tom Collier were all available at Ferguson's pick, and they seem to be doing alright.

None of them bar Rodan and perhaps Edwards really stood out in 07

Retrospective drafting is the easiest game in town

savatage · Post: # 520617Post **savatage** » Tue 19 Feb 2008 10:29am

saint66au wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:
bob__71 wrote:Maybe we redrafted him because he was better than any of the players left in the draft....after all its the quality of the bottom end of the list which ultimately determines the strength of the list as a whole
Aaron Edwards, David Rodan, Adam Cockshell, Anthony Corrie, Leigh Adams, Jamie McNamara, Michael Jamison, Jake King, Jarrod Harbrow, Andrew Foster, Matt Campbell, Chad Jones, Tom Lonergan and Tom Collier were all available at Ferguson's pick, and they seem to be doing alright.
None of them bar Rodan and perhaps Edwards really stood out in 07

Retrospective drafting is the easiest game in town

Yeah no sht!

B W and R all over · Tue 19 Feb 2008 10:58am

Not as if Aaron Edwards was a smokey though. Dominated the goal kicking for Frankston and he was just the sort of mid-sized forward we needed, knowing that Hamill was not going to be around forever.
I remember at the time thinking Edwards would give us more than Ferguson.