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McQualter's new role

Post: # 501490Post karnak »

Okay lets be honest McQualter is talented, works very hard and tackles very well for his size.

But he is too slow for his size, and not strong enough for the way he wants to play in his own mind.

What he needs to do to make it.

I see McQualter as a small forward, really in order for him to be a starting 22, I see him needing to take Milne's spot. If we could get 1.5 goals out of him and a few assists then he would fit in nicely.

He would be able to provide some run and chase through the guts when needed as well as laying 6 tackles a game in the forward line.

If I was in McQualter's position I would be having a good hard look at where I'd position myself to be the best chance of this new found opportunity.


Good luck to him, and hope he has a cracker preseason.


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Post: # 501493Post Teflon »

Mcqualter doesnt have that evasive, freakish small forward quality nor the speed factor of a Davey....nup.

Hes a "to small" mid whose a very lucky boy.....club shoulda tried something new IMO.


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what position/role was he during hie debut against the power?? at tassie...???

whatever it was the 15-20 touches he got were both effective and impressive

its a shame he hasnt continued on

however there still is time


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Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:what position/role was he during hie debut against the power?? at tassie...???

whatever it was the 15-20 touches he got were both effective and impressive
He debuted at Subiaco against West Coast and he ended with something like 16 disposals and 7 tackles. That whole year he played as a midfielder who would occasionally have a spell in the back pocket.

Mini doesn't have the creativity, skills or goal sense to be a small forward and he doesn't have the pace to be a good negating forward. His position is in the midfield. I see him as a very similar player to Andrew Thompson.


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Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:what position/role was he during hie debut against the power?? at tassie...???

whatever it was the 15-20 touches he got were both effective and impressive
He debuted at Subiaco against West Coast and he ended with something like 16 disposals and 7 tackles. That whole year he played as a midfielder who would occasionally have a spell in the back pocket.

Mini doesn't have the creativity, skills or goal sense to be a small forward and he doesn't have the pace to be a good negating forward. His position is in the midfield. I see him as a very similar player to Andrew Thompson.
well the game down at tassie i was most impressed for a youngen

he was the solitary stand out in a poor performance

from memory it was the game that brooks was playing at fullback and had that shocker


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Post: # 501509Post Bernard Shakey »

Ross wanted Mini to become a tagger.

Mini decided he was a midfielder.

Mini was delisted.

Mini is now on the rookie list.

Mini needs to do what the coach tells him to do, or F*** off.


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Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:well the game down at tassie i was most impressed for a youngen

he was the solitary stand out in a poor performance

from memory it was the game that brooks was playing at fullback and had that shocker
That's right. It was also the game in which he became famous for the mo.

We played absolutely terrible footy that day and Mini was the shining light, getting plenty of the footy and preventing the game from blowing out.

Thomas wrote Brooks off after that game. He had the brain explosion in defence when he didn't make a contest against Brogan in the Port goalsquare and he was pushed out of the way by the 180cm Josh Francou in a marking contest. The next time he played was round 22 the next year and he got BOG as a forward.


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Post: # 501517Post vacuous space »

Mini's role is going to be playing in the midfield for the Casey Scorpions this year. He needs to be a leader both on and off the field, helping our young guys to develop. If he does the right things, it's quite possible we'll see him back on the senior list in 2009.


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Post: # 501518Post saintsRrising »

Bernard Shakey wrote:Ross wanted Mini to become a tagger.

Mini decided he was a midfielder.

Mini was delisted.

Mini is now on the rookie list.

Mini needs to do what the coach tells him to do, or F*** off.
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Teflon wrote:Mcqualter doesnt have that evasive, freakish small forward quality nor the speed factor of a Davey....nup.

Hes a "to small" mid whose a very lucky boy.....club shoulda tried something new IMO.
I agree with you there Tef but...I have no doubt he has the the skill but at his size and lack of pace is a worry IMO

Skill but lacks size and pace....

Really there is not much room for a player in this day and age IMO

I hope you and me are wrong and all the best to him in having another chance...


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Post: # 501525Post Otiman »

His role will be to rip it up for the scorpions, grow his moustache again so he stands out, and push for rookie elevation. Right now, he is behind Eddy, and perhaps even Miles (depending if a defender goes onto LTI).


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Post: # 501526Post The Peanut »

Bernard Shakey wrote:Ross wanted Mini to become a tagger.

Mini decided he was a midfielder.

Mini was delisted.

Mini is now on the rookie list.

Mini needs to do what the coach tells him to do, or F*** off.
Putiing it how it is -
RL must have a role for him - and its all about preparing individuals for a role in the team plan - it's seems to be the way RL works - thinks. I trust RL to have an idea - even if it is to train him up as a back-up for a position that we may not need to use if all goes well. Mini is a known quantity.


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Post: # 501548Post st_Trav_ofWA »

minis role for this year would be to get a fit as possible be in the bests for the scorps and if heaven forbid somthng happens to one of our mids and they go on the LTI list then hes gotta play like its for his life . in all honesty the best case scenario would be that he doesnt get elevated at all this year (nor any of the rookies) then we would have a somewhat healthy sqaud but i think if he doesnt get elevated to the main list as some point next year it will be the end for him so really his future is in the hands of the injury gods


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Post: # 501565Post spert »

I dont reckon he is up to it -he had enought time to prove himself


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Post: # 501577Post rodgerfox »

karnak wrote:Okay lets be honest McQualter is talented
Really? In what sense?

He's small.

He's not quick.

His skills are average.

He doesn't find huge amounts of the pill.


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rodgerfox wrote:
karnak wrote:Okay lets be honest McQualter is talented
Really? In what sense?

He's small.

He's not quick.

His skills are average.

He doesn't find huge amounts of the pill.
his skills are actually very very good.

while he isnt as quick as gram he isnt a slow pooch either, makes up for it with his endurance

at junior level he found plenty of the ball, during his transition to afl ranks he was still finding a fair amount of the ball - in the game sp06 is talking about, against port in tassie. mcqualter got between 15 to 20 touches and was hitting leading forwards on the chest and setting up plays with brilliant handballs

and then this year he came out...he would take a mark, completely freak out, hold on to it untill his 15 seconds expired and then miskick it

skills and smarts arnt what he has lost...confidence is

which is good because at his age you can regain confidence, its hard to learn skills and gameday smarts though


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Post: # 501582Post riccardo »

Once again, each asnd every one of these comments could be directed at several of our fringe mids, including one whos name rhymes with "Minton Clones", yet none of those were delisted.

One wonders why......................


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rodgerfox wrote:
karnak wrote:Okay lets be honest McQualter is talented
Really? In what sense?

He's small.

He's not quick.

His skills are average.

He doesn't find huge amounts of the pill.
his skills are better than average, very good in close, neat accurate kick (though kicks short too often). good with the dink into space in F50.

his problems are speed, kicking penetration and size/strength.

he is an inside mid with a good footy brain and a lot of courage. can't see him playing as a forward.
I've always liked him but he is limited to an inside mid/tagger position due to his small size and lack of pace. with Ball, Birss, Lenny, Bakes and Armitage already more than capable in that role it's hard to see how he will get a gig in the seniors.
IMO he could do a solid job in the 1s but hard to see him pushing up from rookie list


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Post: # 501593Post Spinner »

McQualter will be a star or of the highest order.

Has the intensity on the field to do so. It is just a bit hard to break into such a winning midfield which has been so successful since 2004.


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Post: # 501594Post rodgerfox »

SaintBot wrote:
his skills are actually very very good.
No they're not.


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rodgerfox wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
his skills are actually very very good.
No they're not.
What a compelling argument, I'm totally convinced.


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riccardo wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
his skills are actually very very good.
No they're not.
What a compelling argument, I'm totally convinced.
Do you need to be convinced that McQualter's skills aren't very, very good??


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Post: # 501600Post Dan Warna »

malcolm blight tried to turn barry hall into a FB, he is a 3 time GF and 1 time premiership CHF/HF

Tim Watson thought Tony Francis and tony delany would do better in the midfield than Robert harvey and nathan burke.

also with McQualter in as a 'rookie' there is only a slim likelyhood he would play senior games or get elevated into the senior team.

putting him down as a 'star' at this stage is ridiculous. Im a mini fan, but it will be a LOOOOONG road to make the senior side, and frankly if he is to make the senior side in 08, he will have to step over players already in the 38, AND depend on injuries for elevation.

IMO McQualter has maybe a 1/50 chance of playing a senior game in 08, it would depend on another catastrophic series of injuries and form reversals.

given the talls we have in the rookie list, it would also require a stack of injuries in our midfield.

he has been given a slim lifeline, he needs to dominate for casey to get an elevation.

brooks and watts did very well in casey and it was enough for their elevation, or even retention.

He is effectively a casey player in 08, he has to absolutely dominate with 25 plus effective possession games and possibly even top 4 or 5 in the morrish medal and dominate the casey B&F to get an elevation to the st kilda midfield.

remember in 07 CJ was elevated and selected ahead of mini and so was howard and birss. I think Birss is ordinary and howard and CJ have a looooooong way to go.

he isn't held in very high regard in the new heirachy.


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rodgerfox wrote:
riccardo wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
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his skills are actually very very good.
No they're not.
What a compelling argument, I'm totally convinced.
Do you need to be convinced that McQualter's skills aren't very, very good??
Sarcasm detector on the blink today, is it?

No, I don't need to be convinced, I don't think mini is "very, very good", nor do I think he is the bumbler alot of forumites seem to think he is.

I'm yet to be convinced he is a wasted spot on our list when there are other players whos skill level and potential to improve it is well below Minis.


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